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#1 bLaCk0uT

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:42 PM

My computer is a 2000 stock Dell.
I'm not sure what model it is because:
a] I'm retarded
b] I'm retarded

Its soo freaking slow.
I don't feel like buying a whole new computer, so I was just thinking I could add some RAM and get a new video card.

This website (http://www.crucial.com) says I can't.

Apparently my computer is too old and NOBODY sells RAM that's compatible for it.
Plus I don't think I have enough slots to add any more..

Is there ANYTHING I can do?

I would really like to avoid buying a new motherboard and stripping the computer but i guess if it's cheaper than buying a new computer, I'll settle.

If there's nothing I can do, should I stick with building a new desktop, or should I move to a gaming laptop?

#2 jony

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 04:15 PM

If there's nothing I can do, should I stick with building a new desktop, or should I move to a gaming laptop?


Dont wast your money on a good gaming comp its not worth it... Trust me i did the same thing. Not worth it. i spent about 3,000$ of money on one...

Go to NewEgg.com and you can build a good comp there for under 1,000$


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#3 bLaCk0uT

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 04:26 PM

Well, I was thinking about getting a laptop. I really think it would be pretty nice to have because I hate being stuck in my room...
Are there any good laptops that would be able to run at least WoW really well?

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 04:29 PM

WoW can run on a monitor ducktaped to a paperclip...

Seriously, WoW is less resource intensive than MS Paint. You could spend $300 on a laptop from 1998 and run WoW without a problem.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 04:41 PM

I wouldn't be so sure...I tried running it on my 2000 Desktop and I lagged horribly when I got into Ironforge.. Couldn't even move in there.

I've sorta dropped the idea of upgrading this old piece of [censored], and I think I'm just going to save up and get a pretty decent $800-$1200 laptop.

Any suggestions on it?

If you can tell me how I could get more RAM on my desktop, I would still appreciate it.


Okay. Scratch that. I'm going to build a computer. But since I'm doing a desktop, I only want to spend about $800 max. I've already gotten a bit of a plan.

Processor and MoBo- $205
Video card- $175
Monitor- $140
Power Supply- $50
RAM- $50
Hard Drive- $35
Case- $40

I'm pretty much horrible at piecing hardware together, so if anyone can let me know what a good build would be for that price range, I would be amazingly grateful.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 08:23 PM

Well if your looking for a good gaming laptop to play more than WoW

This is the computer for you

http://www.alienware...ode=SKU-DEFAULT

And if you looking to save money and only play WoW than go to a local Bestbuy and buy a normal Desktop.

And Btw and to be honest, laptops are a piece of junk... I have one and i am really working towards enough money for a desktop.

Also finding RAM for only 50dalloars might get you 1 MB so good luck with that :P


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#7 bLaCk0uT

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 09:06 PM

Hmm. I didn't even think about that. Well I found a site that offers 4GB for about $70. That should work.

Okay. I've been looking around and I think I found some stuff. You can go ahead and close this if you see it Jason.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:29 PM

If you are using 4GB of RAM, then you need to make sure you are using a 64bit OS. 32bit OS's are only compatible with 3GB of RAM or less. You also need to make sure your motherboard has enough slots for the RAM sticks. If your mobo only has 2 slots, then you need to go with 2x2GB sticks, if it has 4 slots, I would still recommend 2x2GB sticks incase you may want to upgrade at a later date, however 4x1GB sticks might be a cheaper option.

Another thing to consider is case and GPU compatibility. Some GPU (Video Cards) will not be able to fit in some smaller cases, this is why, as far as cases go, cheaper is not always the best way to go. I am assuming you will either be going with a GeForce 8800 or 9600. I would recommend an 8800, but again, make sure it will fit in the case you get.

Also, make sure your Mobo and CPU are compatible, don't get a AMD Mobo and an Intel chip, and if you are going fully AMD, don't get a AM2 and a quadcore, etc.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:38 PM

Oh, and don't get an Alienware. They are insanely expensive for what they offer, you can build the same thing they have for half the price.

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 07:03 AM

Oh, and don't get an Alienware. They are insanely expensive for what they offer, you can build the same thing they have for half the price.


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#11 bLaCk0uT

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 07:52 PM

Ah. I didnt even notice JB

Well I got a kinda sorta plan.

Only problem is I'm breaking my budget and I'm not even sure that it's all gonna work. Here's the specs:

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115017


MoBo:
Intel BOXDG33BUC LGA 775 ATX
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813121304


RAM:
Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR 800
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820134641


HDD:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250 GB
http://www.newegg.co.....0 st3250410AS


GFX:
EVGA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130318


Disk Drive:
Sony NEC Optiarc Black 15x DVD Rom
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827101131



Power:

HIPER Type M HPU-4M730-SS 730W ATX 12V
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817128008


Case:
COOLER MASTER Elite RC-330-KKR1 Black ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119118


Monitor:
Hanns-G HW-191DPB Black 19"
http://www.newegg.co.....s-G HW-191DPB

(just updated the GFX Card)

Is it decent?

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 08:11 PM

No, BAD blackout!

Do not get an ATI, get an Nvidia. You want an EVGA GeForce 8800, end of story. The CPU is great, I have one in one of my computers. HDD is ok, but I don't really like Seagate. I am a big fan of Cooler Master, and it will definitely fit any Graphics card you can find. You might consider getting two of those DVD drives.

Don't forget to get an OS. I recommend Windows Vista Home Premium.

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EVGA GeForce 8800 - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130318

Western Digital 250gb HDD (instead of your Seagate) - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136161

Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 - http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116469

NOTE: With the above version of Vista, you will only be able to take advantage of 3GB of RAM. You can still install 4GB like you want, but it will only read 3GB of it. If you want to use all of your RAM, then get the 64bit version: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116205. It costs more, but it is worth the extra $100 in my opinion.

Edited by JB Lee, 10 September 2008 - 08:15 PM.


#13 bLaCk0uT

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 08:17 PM

What difference is it gonna make if I throw another 20 bucks at a different HDD?
I really dont want to break $1k, and I'm at $977 with the new GFX card.

Is there a 64bit version of XP?
I hate Vista.

(BTW, what happened to Vent?)

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 10:00 PM

Vista is better than XP, the only reason people don't like it is because it creates a lot of bugs when used with a sub-par system (and most systems that were around in the XP days are not up to the standard of today). The system you are building will be far from sub-par, and thus Vista is the best option.

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 10:13 PM

Okay...I have a friend who is telling me that he knows a guy that works for a computer company and gets a discount on everything, so I'm gonna see if I can get hooked up.

But yeah, thanks for the help. If anyone else has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 11:01 PM

RAM stands for Random Access Memory. It is a type of computer data storage. The word RAM is mostly associated with volatile types of memory, where the information is lost after the power is switched off.
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Posted 27 September 2008 - 06:49 PM

if you end up going with that case you are going to have two PSUs, one crappy one and one good one. I suggest http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119115 (because it's full steel) or http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119104 (because it's a case)

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Posted 30 September 2008 - 05:59 PM

I am using P4 system,how much GB RAM will supports to m y system.
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Posted 30 September 2008 - 09:25 PM

I am using P4 system,how much GB RAM will supports to m y system.
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Posted 07 November 2008 - 01:36 PM

Hi,
ya, if you buying new motherboard,processor and RAM it's cheaper than the buying new PC.