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General Category => Tech Clinic => Topic started by: Iltis_5 on February 04, 2005, 01:56:16 AM
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Ran
Spybot
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Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.0
Scan saved at 12:51:51 AM, on 2/4/05
Platform: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SPOOL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYSTEM\MOSEARCH\BIN\MOSEARCH.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\PTSNOOP.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CMMPU.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\TASKMON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OAK TECHNOLOGY\OAK SIMPLICD\OAKTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OAK TECHNOLOGY\OAK SIMPLICD REWRITE\IWCTRL.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\PCI AUDIO APPLICATIONS\MIXER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\LOADQM.EXE
C:\XSRVECT.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CTFMON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINZIP\WZQKPICK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\ISTSVC\ISTSVC.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\HJT\HIJACKTHIS.EXE
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.ca/ (http://\"http://www.google.ca/\")
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - _{CFBFAE00-17A6-11D0-99CB-00C04FD64497} - (no file)
F1 - win.ini: load=ptsnoop.exe
F1 - win.ini: run=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\cmmpu.exe
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {00000010-6F7D-442C-93E3-4A4827C2E4C8} - (no file)
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSDXM.OCX
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ScanRegistry] C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TaskMonitor] C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SystemTray] SysTray.Exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OAKSTART] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~1\OAKSTART.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OAKTASK] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~1\OAKTASK.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IW Controlcenter] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~2\IWCTRL.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [StillImageMonitor] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CountrySelection] pctptt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [C-Media Mixer] C:\Program Files\PCI Audio Applications\Mixer.exe /startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LoadQM] loadqm.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DaDaNP] C:\XSRVECT.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [¢‰¸ï04Ã4}¤Áœ5]C:\Program Files\ISTsvc\istsvc.exe] C:\XSRVECT.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IST Service] C:\Program Files\ISTsvc\istsvc.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [SchedulingAgent] mstask.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [MOSearch] C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYSTEM\MOSEARCH\BIN\MOSEARCH.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [MDM7] "C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE"
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [SpybotSnD] "C:\PROGRAM FILES\SPYBOT - SEARCH & DESTROY\SPYBOTSD.EXE" /autocheck
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OSA.EXE
O4 - Startup: WinZip Quick Pick.lnk = C:\Program Files\WinZip\WZQKPICK.EXE
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwa...ash/swflash.cab (http://\"https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {B38870E4-7ECB-40DA-8C6A-595F0A5519FF} (MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class) - http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMesse...pDownloader.cab (http://\"http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMessengerSetupDownloader.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Messe...nt.cab31267.cab (http://\"http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsClient.cab31267.cab\")
Thanks in advance
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Symantec has updated their removal tool
We should try this first
Latter versions of ISTbar removal tool hasn't been working on this pest
Download and save to desktop
Symantec's FixISTbar (http://\"http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/FxIstbar.exe\")
Close down all unnecessary programs running in the background
Open Hijackthis>>Open Misc tools section>>Open Process Manager
Kill these processes if possible
C:\WINDOWS\LOADQM.EXE
C:\XSRVECT.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\ISTSVC\ISTSVC.EXE
Do another scan with Hijackthis and put a check next to these entries:
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - _{CFBFAE00-17A6-11D0-99CB-00C04FD64497} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {00000010-6F7D-442C-93E3-4A4827C2E4C8} - (no file)
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LoadQM] loadqm.exe <--not a threat, but not needed on startup, considered a resource hog
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DaDaNP] C:\XSRVECT.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [¢‰¸ï04Ã4}¤Áœ5]C:\Program Files\ISTsvc\istsvc.exe] C:\XSRVECT.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IST Service] C:\Program Files\ISTsvc\istsvc.exe
O4 - Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OSA.EXE <--I would fix this one too, not needed on startup
Application which launches common MS Office components to help speed up the launch of Office programs. It's somewhat of a resource hog and some users claim there's no difference with or without it but it usually isn't required - Note: if you make use of the Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar outside an office program this application will need to be enabled for it to show.
After you have ticked the above entries, close All other open windows, including this one
Leave Hijackthis open and click FIX CHECKED
YES and exit Hijackthis
Double click on
FixISTBar.exe and then click START
This will scan your hard drive, give it time
When it's done
RESTART your computer into SAFE MODE
tap F8 on the keyboard while rebooting
Find and delete these files or folders if they still exist
C:\XSRVECT.EXE <--file
C:\PROGRAM FILES\ISTSVC <--folder
Stay in safe mode and run CCleaner and let it clean your Temp folders, recycle bin,etc..
Restart back to Normal mode
Post back here a fresh hijackthis log afterwards
If Symantec's tool doesn't work we'll try other methods
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Done
new hjt
Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.0
Scan saved at 10:34:19 PM, on 2/4/05
Platform: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYSTEM\MOSEARCH\BIN\MOSEARCH.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\PTSNOOP.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CMMPU.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\TASKMON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OAK TECHNOLOGY\OAK SIMPLICD\OAKTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OAK TECHNOLOGY\OAK SIMPLICD REWRITE\IWCTRL.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\PCI AUDIO APPLICATIONS\MIXER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINZIP\WZQKPICK.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.EXE
C:\HJT\HIJACKTHIS.EXE
F1 - win.ini: load=ptsnoop.exe
F1 - win.ini: run=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\cmmpu.exe
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSDXM.OCX
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ScanRegistry] C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TaskMonitor] C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SystemTray] SysTray.Exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OAKSTART] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~1\OAKSTART.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OAKTASK] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~1\OAKTASK.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IW Controlcenter] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~2\IWCTRL.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [StillImageMonitor] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CountrySelection] pctptt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [C-Media Mixer] C:\Program Files\PCI Audio Applications\Mixer.exe /startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [xpupdate] UPDATES.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [SchedulingAgent] mstask.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [MOSearch] C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYSTEM\MOSEARCH\BIN\MOSEARCH.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [MDM7] "C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE"
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [xpupdate] UPDATES.EXE
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - Startup: WinZip Quick Pick.lnk = C:\Program Files\WinZip\WZQKPICK.EXE
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwa...ash/swflash.cab (http://\"https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {B38870E4-7ECB-40DA-8C6A-595F0A5519FF} (MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class) - http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMesse...pDownloader.cab (http://\"http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMessengerSetupDownloader.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Messe...nt.cab31267.cab (http://\"http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsClient.cab31267.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {042EEA26-2402-4E5A-B5BB-0FB445A5526E} (VacPro.win98_P) - http://www9.advnt01.com/dialer/win98_P.CAB (http://\"http://www9.advnt01.com/dialer/win98_P.CAB\")
O16 - DPF: {D719897A-B07A-4C0C-AEA9-9B663A28DFCB} (iTunesDetector Class) - http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/d.../ITDetector.cab (http://\"http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/detection/ITDetector.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} - http://appldnld.m7z.net/qtinstall.info.app...llInstaller.exe (http://\"http://appldnld.m7z.net/qtinstall.info.apple.com/pthalo/us/win/QuickTimeFullInstaller.exe\")
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Download and Install
SpywareBlaster by JavaCool---will block bad ActiveX and malevolent cookies
Install---Check for Updates---Enable all protection
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html (http://\"http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html\")
Do another scan with Hijackthis and put a check next to these entries:
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [xpupdate] UPDATES.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [xpupdate] UPDATES.EXE
O16 - DPF: {042EEA26-2402-4E5A-B5BB-0FB445A5526E} (VacPro.win98_P) - http://www9.advnt01.com/dialer/win98_P.CAB (http://\"http://www9.advnt01.com/dialer/win98_P.CAB\")
O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} - http://appldnld.m7z.net/qtinstall.info.app...llInstaller.exe (http://\"http://appldnld.m7z.net/qtinstall.info.app...llInstaller.exe\")
After you have ticked the above entries, close All other open windows, including this one
Leave Hijackthis open and click FIX CHECKED
YES and exit Hijackthis
Restart your computer
Post back here a fresh hijackthis log
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Hi Xquisnhr
Can you please start your own topic and include a fresh Hijackthis log
Please don't hijack this thread, thanks
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LOG REMOVED
~Guestolo~
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New hjt
Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.0
Scan saved at 7:06:10 PM, on 2/5/05
Platform: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYSTEM\MOSEARCH\BIN\MOSEARCH.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\PTSNOOP.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CMMPU.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\TASKMON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OAK TECHNOLOGY\OAK SIMPLICD\OAKTASK.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OAK TECHNOLOGY\OAK SIMPLICD REWRITE\IWCTRL.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\PCI AUDIO APPLICATIONS\MIXER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CTFMON.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINZIP\WZQKPICK.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.EXE
C:\HJT\HIJACKTHIS.EXE
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.ca/ (http://\"http://www.google.ca/\")
F1 - win.ini: load=ptsnoop.exe
F1 - win.ini: run=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\cmmpu.exe
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSDXM.OCX
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ScanRegistry] C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TaskMonitor] C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SystemTray] SysTray.Exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OAKSTART] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~1\OAKSTART.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OAKTASK] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~1\OAKTASK.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IW Controlcenter] C:\PROGRA~1\OAKTEC~1\OAKSIM~2\IWCTRL.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [StillImageMonitor] C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CountrySelection] pctptt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [C-Media Mixer] C:\Program Files\PCI Audio Applications\Mixer.exe /startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [LoadPowerProfile] Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [SchedulingAgent] mstask.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [MOSearch] C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYSTEM\MOSEARCH\BIN\MOSEARCH.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [MDM7] "C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\MICROSOFT SHARED\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] ctfmon.exe
O4 - Startup: WinZip Quick Pick.lnk = C:\Program Files\WinZip\WZQKPICK.EXE
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwa...ash/swflash.cab (http://\"https://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {B38870E4-7ECB-40DA-8C6A-595F0A5519FF} (MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class) - http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMesse...pDownloader.cab (http://\"http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMessengerSetupDownloader.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Messe...nt.cab31267.cab (http://\"http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsClient.cab31267.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {D719897A-B07A-4C0C-AEA9-9B663A28DFCB} (iTunesDetector Class) - http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/d.../ITDetector.cab (http://\"http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/detection/ITDetector.cab\")
O16 - DPF: {1239CC52-59EF-4DFA-8C61-90FFA846DF7E} (Musicnotes Viewer) - http://www.musicnotes.com/download/mnviewer.cab (http://\"http://www.musicnotes.com/download/mnviewer.cab\")
Thanks for all the help.
Hey, if I run Ad-Aware, CCleaner, Spyware Blaster and Spybot, is that sufficient protection?