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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on September 26, 2001, 10:12:52 PM
How difficult is it to make a recovery CD.  I, like most of you, clean boot my computer often because of all the trial softwares and/or beta softwares I install.  As much fun as it is to clean out the computer, it becomes a hassle to reboot my computer with even the OS. I\'ve read about ghosting and have tried Norton Ghost but didn\'t have much luck.  Is there any easier way, not that I\'m opposed to hard work.  Any suggestions you can give me will be greatly appreciated.  thanks.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: wizard2010 on September 30, 2001, 05:03:00 PM
I cant understand the problems you might have had with Norton Ghost ?

I can bring 3GB back in 7mins....

Norton is the soulution,
if you require a bit more help with Norton Ghost just send me
a message....

But you must have 2 Physical HD\'s..

Couldnt live without Norton Ghost Now.

Just zeros & ones ???
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: rdc on October 01, 2001, 01:58:31 AM
I use Norton ghost too , exellent program .Very usefull .
I had only a small problem after changing my scsi  host adaptor to asc29160 . I was getting write errors  and I had to make a new cdrom with the bootup image from win me and the contents of the original cdrom of Norton Ghost and it functioned as before .
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2001, 10:20:53 PM
Try \'Powerquest Drive Image 5\'

it\'s da business :-)

6 Gig in 25 minutes cross 100Mbit LAN

Much simpler than Norton Ghost and less likely to throw horible nasty errors.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2001, 04:16:20 PM
Drive Image does have a simpler user menu; but ive noticed Ghost seems to make smaller image files & work faster over a lan - also; if you happen to have the enterprise edition; an image server is easy to set up

Ghost & Image both will run w/only one HD - you do however need seperate partitions
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: SexyZane on October 14, 2001, 06:21:47 AM
Actually, I live of Ghost, it works very very good (you need Ghost 2002 for WinXP). You don\'t need 2 hd, 1 divided in two partition is enough.

I don\'t think you can find anything easier...

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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: rdc on October 14, 2001, 07:27:34 AM
I only work with the ghostpe program (on bootable cd) of ghost 2001 to make my drive (partition) image of my XP drive . I haven\'t installed the windows program Ghostexplorer  part in XP, only in W2K .
I didn\'t even know this program doesn\'t function in XP . I never use  it on W2K and  I suppose to install my image of the winxp drive will function as well as  the one of the w2k drive .For me that\'s the most important part of Norton Ghost .


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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: SexyZane on October 16, 2001, 03:41:46 PM
To use Ghost with XP you do need Ghost 2002: earlier versions don\'t work with XP NTFS (with XP FAT they work as well)

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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: rdc on October 18, 2001, 01:57:33 AM
tks , I still use Fat32 , a question of entering in dos without the use of other programs .

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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2001, 01:52:17 AM
I can get Ghost to work just fine with a floppy, my problem is I haven\'t been able to figure a way to make a bootable CD with Ghost and the image on it. I can actually get everything on the CD but after Ghost loads it can\'t find the image. I\'ve tried floppy imulation in Nero and a few other scenerios, does anyone have a clue how to do this and with which burning program? If anyone knows the answer to this, please be as specific as possible.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: rdc on October 19, 2001, 04:17:45 AM
you just need to have a bootable cd with ghostpe on it .
The Ghostcd is normally a bootable cd . I just had to make the winme boot disk , the bootimage of my Ghost cd to repair errors in dos with my new asc 29160 and the old Norton Ghost cd bootimage.
The ghost image of a drive or partition  doesn\'t have to be on a bootable cdrom , just one or more plain cdr , or on a second harddisk ,or partition .

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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2001, 06:09:28 PM
I did put Ghost PE on the CD but after Ghost loads It can\'t \"see\" the Ghost image on the CD. If I boot from floppy, then there is not a problem seeing it on the CD. What I want is a bootable Ghost CD with the Image on the same CD, where Ghost will \"see\" the image. Not sure if I\'m explaining myself correctly but I think I am. I think it has something to do with the burning process because I\'ve tried using floppy emulation with no luck in NERO. maybe the settings in NERO are wrong but I\'m not sure because I haven\'t had to make too many bootable CDs with any sort of emulation. Any help would be welcomed.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: rdc on October 20, 2001, 02:38:38 AM
you must first start ghostpe(cd tools , ghostpe) on your cd and then via image to disk or disk to image, go to the image on your harddisk .
You better have a dos mouse program r somewhere on your harddisk

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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: rdc on October 20, 2001, 04:56:09 AM
If you want to make a bootable cd with nero with the *.gho on it and also ghostpe , the you have to make a bootable cd with a bootable floppy image (win 98 ,winme ),put the xxx.gho on it , and also ghostpe.exe  and eventually a dos mouse.exe or mouse.com .You can eventually put an autoexec.bat on it to start the mouse program and then  the ghostpe.exe .
But then your xxx.gho must realy be on the small size .



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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2001, 04:25:09 PM
I figured it out, finally. At first, I had my CD/RW connected through an ATA card, even though that wasn\'t really the problem, I just switched cd rom drive to the ATA card and the CD/RW drive to my secondary IDE channel and now Ghost just burns a bootable cd straight to the CDRW. Although this didn\'t solve my origional problem, I\'m getting the results that I wanted, just in a different way.Thanks for the help anyway.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: msixteen on October 27, 2001, 07:13:00 PM
I have powerquest drive image pro 4.0. It works great!
I was wondering if you know how to make a bootable CD for this program? I went to the powerquest web site about this but, I\'m doing something wrong. Thanks in advance if you can help.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2001, 12:52:50 AM
I had the same problem when trying to use Norton Ghost. Finally able to figure it out after about a week of testing. I\'ve never used Drive Image, so I can\'t help ya with that one. What I really hate about all of the backup programs is the fact that you cant back up without writing the image to a fat partition, if you prefer that instead of burning straight to a cdr within the backup program.
I totally abandoned fat last year and I\'m surprised that Symantec and powerquest haven\'t come up with a real alternative to this yet, considering that Microsoft has just about all but abandoned fat as well. You can still use fat on XP but anyone who has an ounce of smarts wouldn\'t do it.
Anyone out there who feels the same way about the FAT file system?
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2001, 08:12:15 PM
i was wondering if it was possible to boot up a windows 2000 pro or server system (NTFS partition) from a CD/floppy while having read and write capabilities on the drive (xcopy capabilities would also be nice if i can get away with it.).

thanx in advance

P.S. i have been looking into ERd commander but would like another solution.(say i have an emergency and i don\'t have my software cabinet nearby)


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Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on November 04, 2001, 06:14:02 PM
In respond to RDC,

 Do you or anyone in here know how to make a bootable Windows 98 or ME CD? I have tried to follow various instructions from the web, including the one that came straight out from Stevens, the guy who invented the El Toritos Spec. and guess what, it is still not working. The reason, I surmised, is because the instructions are not in a great details, also the ultility that they used (Norton Disk Editor) is what I dont have. I, however, replaced it with WinHex and other similar ones but arrived at a very undesirable outcome. If you or anyone in here know the exact software and detail steps of making that bootable CD, please email that to me at ANDREWNEWMAN_2000Email Removed.  Thank you very very much in advance.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: The_Flames on November 05, 2001, 06:48:40 AM
I know from nero and easycd you can poing a boot floppy and it will bake the cd book off the floppy, if you know dos you ccan configure autoexec & config sys to boot the cdrom and do all the needed fancy stuff
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: rdc on November 05, 2001, 11:11:51 AM
Make a bootable cd with  NERO and with the win98 or winme floppy as boot image and you can insert  as last line of the autoexec.bat  setup ,   simply setup without a driveletter .On the same cdrom copy the win98 or winme cd .
This should let you setup without a floppy disk .This will not be an unattended setup .
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Twinkie on November 07, 2001, 07:41:18 PM
If you edit your autoexec on the bootable CD to launch NTFSDOS Pro during boot up you can edit any NTFS partitions like standard FAT partitions.  NTFSDOS is free and grants you read access only.  The Pro version is what you need for write access on any NTFS partion.  Pro costs $$ though.  Works very well.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: jbraddoc on November 07, 2001, 08:29:30 PM
K you know how like when you buy a new computer, and it comes with the Restore CD. and when ya stick the bugger in the PC, and boot it up, it Loads like a menu thingy to select what you want to do, can Ghost do that? BTW i have Ghost Enterprise 2002 heheh
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Anonymous on November 08, 2001, 04:32:05 AM
Yes, Ghost can do that. The only thing about Ghost is that you don\'t have too many options with an image.
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Genial on December 02, 2001, 09:59:05 PM
I use a virtual machine called vmare workstation.

It allows me to have virtual computers on my main OS which is win2k.  Presently I have win95/98/nt40/2k/XP and mandrake linux.

I am able to test any software and should my virtual computer crash all I have to do is reinstall it or better yet I have a back up copy of all the virtual computers on CD and should they crash I just restore the files to there rightful folders. easy as that.
Actually I use the virtual machine to allow mean to test software that I have written in the above OSs I just easily transport the code via the virtual network between the host and the virtual computer.

check out the company\'s website if you are interested in purchasing it \"www.vmware.com\"
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: The_Flames on December 03, 2001, 07:01:04 AM
I find VMware unstable and slow, have you tryied virtual pc, it\'s quick, and i find it more stable
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: DavidVT on January 05, 2002, 04:21:21 PM
VMware is not perfect, but if I find it\'s performance with the HOST running Linux redhat 7.2 is far better than with the HOST running any MS products.  I am not a linux guru and it took me awhile to get VMware working in that environment.  Now that I know enough to start VMware on my Linux partition, I am quite happy!

I\'ve run W2000 server in a virtual window.  It brought my old Dell 300 to it\'s knees, but the darn thing worked great and allowed me to create a virtual but fully functional BDC for my domain that we can keep in a file.

Can\'t wait to try this on my new 1.7, should be interesting.  I am in here trying to figure out the best way to scoop the image off my new Compaq before I put power to it and allow the proprietary sw to initiate the hard drive.

Like above, I keep my bare virtual systems on CDroms and just reload from CDrom when I trash an operating system.

I\'ll try virtual when I come across it. The whole idea of flexibility with this OS on any virtual generic PC (vm or other)  is just fantastic!
Title: Recovery CD, etc..
Post by: Twinkie on January 10, 2002, 07:58:48 PM
Depending on how advanced you want to get...Yes.  

Easy way edit the Menu in config.sys and add the extra\'s into your autoexec.  Place floppy into a: and burn a bootable CD using floppy emulation.  That is a really over simplified explanation, I know.

Second Option: Use barts diskemu prog.  You can do all kinds of really cool menu options with his.  His site also provides great insturctions on how to use it.

Link to Bart (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu\")

Click my name to go to my site.  Check out the \'ME 9X\' section for some example config and autoexec edits.