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Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Josetann on November 12, 2001, 09:50:13 AM
First, if you haven\'t already read our article on modifying XP\'s boot logo, check it out here.

Have you tried it?  Anything interesting you\'d like to add?  Any problems along the way?  Let us know!
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2001, 10:47:41 PM
So, is there any way of changing the palette from its default 16-color palette? I\'d like to make it a picture of, say, the latest Enterprise, but with their 16-color palette it looks kinda nasty.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Barret on November 12, 2001, 11:41:36 PM
No, there isn\'t any way of changing the default palette. The boot screen will not work with any images higher than 16 color(note: not 16-bit).
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Lukeage on November 13, 2001, 06:06:07 AM
So there is no way to create a new 16 colour palette and store it in a dll or wherever? How did ya get hold of the palette used for the standard ones then?

Bit of a bugga cause the colours they give you really suck.
Oh well.

Lukeage
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2001, 10:29:14 AM
How can i use the \"Maintain Indexes\" feature from PaintShop7 in Photoshop? I didn\'t find a similar function ?!

Thx in advance
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Barret on November 13, 2001, 01:27:13 PM
No, there is no way to import your own palette.We extracted the palette from Image 5 in the ntoskrnl.exe.

Check this site here for an extensive gallery of win2k boot logos. You can use these and modify them to fit your winXP boot screen. Note: Make sure you convert these to 16 color bitmaps, otherwise they will not work.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Barret on November 13, 2001, 01:32:04 PM
There is no \"Maintain Indexes\" option in Photoshop because if you use the palette provided in the tutorial, it will automatically load the palette correctly.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2001, 01:47:19 PM
can u modify the size for the new \"scroll\" and \"professional\" bitmap?

or do they have to be the EXACT same size as the original?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2001, 08:47:45 PM
I don\'t see why you would want to, but, I think if you increase the size of the image, only the portion that is the original size will show. I, however, have not tried this.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2001, 01:35:56 AM
How do you import palettes in Photoshop?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2001, 01:22:49 AM
From the menu:

Image -> Mode -> Color Table -> Load (16.act)
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Hacku on December 29, 2001, 12:13:24 PM
Can someone please help me?

I have changed the logos and everything to the way I want them, but when I try saving the new logos in Photoshop 6 it doesn\'t give me the choice (at all) to save them as 16 bits.

It only lets me save them in 8 and 4. What am I doing wrong?

TIA
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Fenixtxb182 on December 29, 2001, 04:03:39 PM
I just made a XP bootscreen and uploaded it to themexp

www.themexp.org

Your tutorial was great, very simple.

Is there a way i can delete the \"Professional\" logo, i think its \"10\"

Because i want to put something else there and its in the way.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Scary on January 02, 2002, 11:02:23 AM
to get rid of the professional bmp, try making it a 1x1 bmp, just a tiny black dot, that way the pic is still there but not not visible
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: xpsuckss on January 02, 2002, 07:33:52 PM
I have over 10 b/s uplod on themexp.org ..
You can delete any Bitmap,like 5,6,7 or 10 ..
My b/s only have image 1,2,3 and 6 !!
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: pr0fess0r on January 06, 2002, 06:09:53 PM
I have loaded the file into Photoshop OK and edited it, but I find that any pure white parts of the image become transparent when put back into ntoskrnl.exe There seem to be two whites in the color palette... How do I get white to appear as white in the final bitmap?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2002, 06:36:49 PM
Use SmartDraw .
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: SRacer2000 on January 08, 2002, 11:22:43 PM
Is there any way to get the fade in thing to still work on the custom logos??
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on January 10, 2002, 06:13:33 AM
Just so you all know, I found a program that modifies the kernel so that you can use whatever 16 colors you want.  Here is the forum i found it in:
http://www.littlewhitedog.com/forum/topic....S+%2D+Microsoft (http://\"http://www.littlewhitedog.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3621&FORUM_ID=6&CAT_ID=4&Topic_Title=HOW+TO%2D%2D%2DHacking+the+Windows+XP+Logon+screen%2E%2E%2E&Forum_Title=OS+%2D+Microsoft\")
And here is the link to the program:
http://www.tofahrn.de/tools/bootlogo.zip (http://\"http://www.tofahrn.de/tools/bootlogo.zip\")

No more nasty palette for me!  Enjoy!
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Darius on January 10, 2002, 04:24:09 PM
Sorry, but the posting you mentioned is about log on screens, not boot screens.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2002, 12:35:24 AM
Opps, you\'re right.  Wrong forum.  Here is the one I was talking about that led me to the boot program.  Enjoy!

http://www.littlewhitedog.com/forum/topic....S+%2D+Microsoft (http://\"http://www.littlewhitedog.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3766&FORUM_ID=6&CAT_ID=4&Topic_Title=How+to+change+the+WINDOWS+XP+boot+screen&Forum_Title=OS+%2D+Microsoft\")
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Barret on January 27, 2002, 03:18:04 AM
linkified.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: pepto-jones on January 27, 2002, 11:29:54 AM
I edited mine and when it booted up the logo was changed but right after that i got an error screen saying that windows needed to shut down I had to replace the file w/ the original to fix it can anyone tell me what i did wrong
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on January 29, 2002, 12:52:04 PM
i would like to know if someone could make me an AMD and Abit combo b/s please i am no good at this
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: N Lombardi on January 30, 2002, 04:32:33 PM
Help - I tried modifying xp\'s boot screen but after saving ntoskernl.exe back to system32 in safe mode, it made no difference at all at boot up.   I used paint shop pro as suggested for the editing and maybe I don\'t know enough to use it --- I simply painted over what was there in black and typed in my own text, then saved it back and used  reshacker.  I never used paint shop pro before, so I\'m thinking I\'m missing something simple there?  Also this is on a fat 32 upgraded drive - might that have anything to do with it?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Slidder on January 30, 2002, 07:11:41 PM
Yet another tool to modify XP\'s boot logo is Resource Tuner.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on January 30, 2002, 11:05:51 PM
First:

As far as i have figured out, the only reason why it doesn\'t work with Photoshop is that Photoshop persists on a 72dpi resolution, while the logo has to be 96dpi.

In addition, Photoshop messes up the palette. PSP is the far better solution to this.

Never the less, Photoshop is actually the more advanced image editiong software, so once you have done the \'basics\' in PSP you can try to go on with editing the image _carefully_ in Photoshop, watching out not to loose the main properties, esp. the 72dpi.

Your problem, i guess, is that windoze restores the ntoskrnl.exe using windows system file protection. You have to disable it when chaning the boot logo.

If this still doesn\'t work, you have to replace the modified ntoskrnl.exe in all CAB files in the folder

%SystemRoot%System32Driversi386DriverCache (or similar, i\'m unsure right now since im under Linux and have currently no acces to my windoze partitions)

however, if the path i have given is wrong, you have to change the ntoskrnl.exe in all the CAB files that contain it, like DRIVER.CAB and probably in SP2.CAB.

Note: This is a dangerous procedure, since if you replace it everywhere, windoze will be unable to restore the original ntoskrnl.exe if something fails, e.g. you mis-edited the ntoskrnl.exe and made it unbootable somehow.

The only resort then is the emergency recovery console. A good start before chaning the ntoskrnl.exe at every location in your windows installation is to execute

winnt /cmdcons (or winnt32 /cmdcons)

from the i386 folder where you have installed windows from (e.g. CDROM or some people, including me, store it on the hard drive for easier and faster access)

This will add the recovery console to the start-up menu, so if something goes wrong, you overwrite the bad ntoskrnl.exe with a backup of the original ntoskrnl.exe (which you should have made before editing it!)  from the recovery console, and you dont have to mess with the boot cd or even diskettes.

greetz
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2002, 08:54:39 AM
Sorry, the correct path is

%SystemRoot%Driver Cachei386

%SystemRoot% is likely to be C:WINDOWS for WinXP and C:WINNT for Win2K on most systems.

If you type the path above under \"Start\"->\"Run\" Windows will open the right folder since SystemRoot is a Windows\' internal environment variable which holds the path to the Windows folder, so you can\'t go wrong when using the variable instead of a fixed path like C:WINDOWS

(Ehhh... *g* i think i\'m doin this a bit too complicated, but just want to point it out fail-safe)
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2002, 06:46:01 PM
i have used both and it can be done by either and also it is 16 colors not 16 bit 16 colors is a 4bit job. it is very simple read the directions very carefully. also do 1 at a time.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2002, 10:34:49 PM
I have been trying this boot mod for the past 3 days.  I have previously done it with 2k and 98 w/ no problems.  XP does not want to change it.  I have replaced every instance of ntoskrnl.exe in my sytem in safe mode as well as deleted (after backing up) my driver cache (i could get WinZip to add a file to a cab file ?!?) with no luck.  The file in my system32 dir is the new one even after I boot back into normal mode, but it still won\'t load.  I\'m running WinXP Pro.  If anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
-MichaelD
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on February 08, 2002, 04:10:33 PM
i modified my boot logo, making multiple boot kernels ...
i had 2 probs, one of witch i solved .....

the first one is that i got a error when rebooting ... (some stupid blue screen about corrupted kernel file .. ) i worked out that if the versions logo was too big, it didn t accept it ......

my second from that i haven t fixed is that windows is now real slow @ booting ... after i logged in it shows my desktop and the task bar, then waits for 5 mins or so befor loadin all my proggies .... it does this even with the non modified ver of the kernel ... i noticed this prob only after i have about 6 or 7 diffrent kernels in the system32 folder...... any one got an idea what this could come from .....

i m using XP pro 2600

thx koko
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Cyberlink on February 09, 2002, 01:46:44 PM
I tried the tut with Fireworks...it doesn\'t work, I can load the pic and change the palette but the pic is still black
has somebody already tried it with fireworks?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on February 13, 2002, 02:36:50 PM
Have a look at this http://www.themexp.org/view_info.php?comments=1&id=11381 (http://\"http://www.themexp.org/view_info.php?comments=1&id=11381\") as the guy here has used a custom palette (also contains a tutotial link)
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: phoen on February 14, 2002, 05:31:31 AM
the only prog I used that actually showed the Professional, or whatever bar was Macromedia Freehand. it was wierd looking, green and pink, but i covered it all in black and it was black on the boot up. i thinks i created a new paint image (.bmp) at the right size, made it black and pasted it in. This bitmap might be locked or protected somehow, maybe?

PS i use Resource Hacker to load my .exe\'s
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: ActionHank on February 17, 2002, 11:18:04 AM
Does anybody know where to get  a Palette for Corel Photopaint?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Da_gr8_1 on February 17, 2002, 01:34:48 PM
instead download the sofware for boot screens itz like 2MB without goin through all the paintshop pro steps?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on April 05, 2002, 01:17:56 AM
how would i change the color of that this that moves horizontal. i want to keep it the same look but with just a different color.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: The_Decryptor on April 06, 2002, 05:10:50 AM
i found that replacing bitmap 9 with a progress bar that has your custom palette changes the palette of the finished logo, i tried it on a logo that was being shown with the default palette and it is now displaying the logo with it\'s custom palette. Also put in the same image into bitmap 8 just in case.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on May 24, 2002, 09:20:36 PM
how do you turn off windows system file protection? Thx in advance
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: niceguy_rfd on June 05, 2002, 04:53:55 AM
Try this, go to the following link: http://members.rogers.com/userxp/ (http://\"http://members.rogers.com/userxp/\")
There, you download a program called \"LogonBootRandomizer\".  This program allows you to change your logon screens and boot screens in XP without having to mess with system files and all that stuff.  You put all your boot screens (including ones that you\'ve made yourself)  in a directory, and tell the program where it is.  It then displays all of them in a list, you can view them by clicking on the name in the list.  To install the boot screen, just double click on the name of the screen you want installed.  Same story for the logon screens.  
You have to download a set of drivers for this, but the links are on the guy\'s site as well.
Good luck, and enjoy!

~R.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: niceguy_rfd on June 05, 2002, 05:09:22 AM
I had a copy of the FBI boot screen for windows XP a few months ago, and my computer went FUBAR and i had to reinstal windows, and, in doing so, lost the boot screen.  I tried to get it back by going to the place where i had originally dloaded it - themexp.org, but it was gone.  I send a few messages in to forums, but didn\'t get anywhere.  Now, its back up in their site, but when i click the link it says that they lost most of their site data, and they are waiting for people to re-submit stuff.  

Does anyone have this boot screen who would be willing to e-mail it to me as an attachment?? My e-mail address is \'niceguy_rfdEmail Removed\'  
Thanks in Advance

~R.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: rick_STA on July 30, 2002, 05:55:37 PM
yo after comepeting the new paleted files in photoshop, when trying to update bipmap in res hacker i get an access violation messsage.. any thaughts? what does this mean.

thanks, rick
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2002, 08:44:27 AM
same with me, any ideas anyone? please!
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Prod on September 12, 2002, 04:36:16 PM
I had the same prob.

The solution?

Save the bmp with a 96dpi res at 640x480 and when you save it make sure it has 16colours (4bit) and is not compressed (RLE).

Let meknow how you get on.

G P
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2002, 10:05:30 PM
hi, i get this error:
acces violation at address 00402791 in module \'reshacker.exe\' . Write of address 01C76000
when i try to replace \"1\"
how can i fix this?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: NightWolfe on October 30, 2002, 02:09:48 AM
ok .. here\'s a new one .. well at least I guess it\'s new since I can\'t find the damn answer anywhere .. what kernel does WInXP Pro use for Dual CPU systems ?? it\'s no the same one .. i tried replaing the ntoskrnl.exe and it totally fubared everything .. any help would be great .. thanks
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2002, 01:02:48 AM
Dual Proc Comps use the same ntoskrnl.  I have a dual proc comp and it works fine.  I got the access violation message to but it is because of photoshop saving it wrong.  Use 96dpi, 16 color, 4 bit, 640x480.  It works fine.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Guest on May 06, 2003, 04:17:52 PM
[quote name=\'Hacku\' date=\'Dec 29 2001, 11:13 AM\']Can someone please help me?

I have changed the logos and everything to the way I want them, but when I try saving the new logos in Photoshop 6 it doesn't give me the choice (at all) to save them as 16 bits.

It only lets me save them in 8 and 4. What am I doing wrong?

TIA[/quote]
 they are settings for 4 bits per pixel (4 bpp) and 8 bpp respectively.  4 bpp is 16 bit colour as 4^2 = 16

solution => choose 4 (bpp, i.e. not 4 bits, but 4 bpp)
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Guest on May 06, 2003, 04:18:33 PM
[quote name=\'Hacku\' date=\'Dec 29 2001, 11:13 AM\']Can someone please help me?

I have changed the logos and everything to the way I want them, but when I try saving the new logos in Photoshop 6 it doesn't give me the choice (at all) to save them as 16 bits.

It only lets me save them in 8 and 4. What am I doing wrong?

TIA[/quote]
they are settings for 4 bits per pixel (4 bpp) and 8 bpp respectively.  4 bpp is 16 bit colour as 4^2 = 16

solution => choose 4 (bpp, i.e. not 4 bits, but 4 bpp)
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Patrick Loaeza on April 23, 2004, 01:27:21 PM
[quote name=\'Hacku\' date=\'Dec 29 2001, 11:13 AM\']Can someone please help me?

I have changed the logos and everything to the way I want them, but when I try saving the new logos in Photoshop 6 it doesn't give me the choice (at all) to save them as 16 bits.

It only lets me save them in 8 and 4. What am I doing wrong?

TIA[/quote]
 Photoshop CAN'T save 4 bits Bit Map Pictures, until you change to 15 colors NOT 16 colors.

But, if you want to change to 16 bit, then you will need to change your palete to  /blink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':blink:\' /> RGB mode, it doesn't work if you don't do this. /blink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':blink:\' />
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: misterX on September 25, 2004, 04:41:35 AM
Hello,
I know this is the wrong thread but I can't find the right. I'm sorry for it. /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />
If've got some pictures of my friends and I want these pictures to be my winXP Prof Logons. Where can I find a Thread how to make my own Logons??
I would be very pleased if you could tell my how to make logons for Logon Loader.
Thank you in advance. /rolleyes.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':rolleyes:\' />
Greetings
misterX
e-Mail me: [email protected]
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Guest on September 30, 2004, 01:09:17 AM
I tried the tut and it worked fine with Photoshop but when I start up Windows the image occurs to be shifted to the right a little bit, anybody knows the reason. I tried to edit the .bmp using image processing software, unfortunately all the 4bit information was converted to 8bit so this does not help.

Another hint to avoid overwriting the original ntoskrnl.exe create a textfile named boot.txt or locate it in the root of your system directory. Then write in

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP My Boot Screen" /fastdetect /KERNEL=otherkrl.exe
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

This opens a dialogue which lets you choose the kernel at startup with a timeout of 10 seconds. Once your bootscreen works right just set the timeout to zero.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: colonel on October 07, 2004, 11:58:26 PM
while ur at it how do u replace the Windows XP LOgo
in the General tab under System Properties with an image of my choice  /cool.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'B)\' />
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: YeuEm1000Nam on October 09, 2004, 12:46:07 PM
hey..i use the ResHack to open the ntoskrnl.exe,but i only see 1-8 then 13-15..i cant see 9 or 10..whats wrong? i have windows xp sp2..can it have something to do with it?? and i have seen that some person av make the Loader button (usally under the picture..but someone have make in on the top of the picture...how do the make it??
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: YeuEm1000Nam on October 09, 2004, 02:06:28 PM
and yeah..when we change it to a 16 color..the image wondt be that it was once..look at this image (http://\"http://www.littlewhitedog.com/view_image.php?view_image=images/reviews/other/00025/angel_of_death_64_big.jpg\") when i have change it to 16 color i could se the image anymore..how can lots of ppl use more then 16 color..like all the boot screen in themexp.org
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Guest on January 23, 2005, 04:34:25 PM
can someone give me a tutorial how to edit the bitmap in PSP, so I can save it in the right format ?
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Guest on March 26, 2005, 01:12:49 AM
Wow, lots of people asking questions, I messed around with the kernal and got it working in about 10 min.  So the solution is, if you have to ask questions about something like this, you probably shouldnt be messing with it.  Now then, next topic photoshop.

[color=\"red\"]PHOTOSHOP CAN BE USED TO EDIT THE IMAGES FOR THE BOOT SCREEN[/color].  dont listen to the other dorks saying you cant.  Using resourse hacker save the images (image 10 is incorrect by the way, change image 1 for the primary boot screen).  Open the file that you saved in photoshop and download the correct palette.  Apply the palette and tada, you should see the image.  Here is the important part that will awanser most of the questions:

1. You cannot change the dimensions of the original file.
2. When saving make sure your in "Indexed Color" mode, using the palette provided in the tutorial on themexp.org
3. [color=\"red\"]THIS IS REAL IMPORTANT[/color] after saving an option box will pop up make sure to select "Windows" as the file format, the depth has to be at "4 bit" and the box next to "compress (RLE)" should [color=\"red\"]NOT[/color] be  checked.

If you follow the directions on themexp.org carfully it should be no problem to change the boot screen, but you have to ask yourself, is doing this really worth your time? If you awansered yes, your a big nerd, just like me.
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: red_fruity_loops on April 08, 2006, 03:33:29 PM
I have edited the ntosknl.exe and saved but i don't know how to reboot? I press "f8" it gives lots of options which one do i choose? /unsure.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':unsure:\' />
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: SniperJr on June 24, 2006, 06:07:41 PM
i dont know which one to choose too
Title: Modifying Windows XP\'s Boot Logo
Post by: Forgotten on June 25, 2006, 02:46:47 PM
thanks /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />)