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General Category => Software => Topic started by: SmyLer on December 16, 2001, 08:47:14 AM
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Do you need something to enable the boot screens for Windows XP ? because i have folowed the instructions very closely and it dosny work so plz if there is can you send me the link for the download so i can enable it plz
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THX
SmyLer
THX AGAIN
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There isn\'t anything that you need to \"enable\". What is the exact problem you are having? Try to be a little more specific.
Note: there is already a thread that you can post in for the Windows XP Boot Screen How-to.
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When ive restarted it dosnt work it stays on the normal screen !! why ? and ive folloewd t ehe instucions very carefully PLZ HELP IM BEGGIN YOU !!!
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When ive restarted it dosnt work it stays on the normal screen !! why ? and ive folloewd t ehe instucions very carefully PLZ HELP IM BEGGIN YOU !!!
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try this place
http://www.themexp.org (http://\"http://www.themexp.org\")
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It still isnt working and thx 4 the webby but there isnt anythin on there about the boot screens plz help,im beggin if any 1 can tell!! how do you boot in to Comand prompt because i have XP and it dont do that so you use the windows based 1 but how do you restart do i just restart or is there another way plz help me thx
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If you mean a way to change the logon screen for winxp there is a program to do it :
http://www.fileforum.com/detail.php3?fid=1008745291 (http://\"http://www.fileforum.com/detail.php3?fid=1008745291\")
Your explanation is hard to understand
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you probably have a problem with the power management system under controlpanel--> display-->screensaver(i believe...can\'t remember \'cause i\'m in another computer with 98..)--> then you can try advance maybe.
well, it should be under the setting where you setup the monitor power,etc.
it\'s a similar problem with when you can shutdown properly..
good luck
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http://www.themexp.org/howto.php (http://\"http://www.themexp.org/howto.php\")
you have to replace the ntoskrln.exe in safe mode dos promt.
Details in link above
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To boot into the command prompt you must press F8 before your boot screen comes on. Look at your keyboard and when it comes on just press F8 or just keep pressing F8 until you get to a prompt that asks you which version of XP to load and at the bottom it says to press F8 for troubleshooting purposes. So press F8 here then you have another menu with about 6 choices, choose safe mode with command prompt and let it load. You will actually log into windows itself but upon doing so you will have the command prompt and then you need to copy your ntoskrnl.exe to your C:WindowsSystem32 folder and then after doing so press Ctrl, Alt, Del to throw up the task manger and select shut down then restart. If all went well you should see you new boot screen. Note:[/i] Before doing any of this make sure you have made a backup copy of your original file somewhere so you can always go back to it if something goes wrong.
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add a /NOGUIBOOT switch in the BOOT.INI file
example:
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINNT=\"Microsoft Windows XP Professional\" /fastdetect /noguiboot
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A backup copy of the original file isn\'t enough. I had a backup and installed a new boot screen, but the new boot screen would just stop. I thought, \"I\'ll just restore my backup!\" But no, with a messed up ntoskrnl.exe I couldn\'t even get to a command prompt. it would just blue screen with a page fault. Not knowing any way to get a prompt *and* be able to access the NTFS hd I had to repair XP from the installation CD. Not fun!
Is there a way to get a command prompt with NTFS access with a corrupt ntoskrnl.exe file?
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Boot Screens
If you have multiple boot screens that you would like to select between, please look at this app. http://www.flvip.com/bootxp (http://\"http://www.flvip.com/bootxp\"). Looks like a very nice utility.
Backup (copy) the file %windir%system32ntoskrnl.exe (most likely C:windowssystem32ntoskrnl.exe - the boot screen)
Download the .zip to your computer
Extract ntoskrnl.exe to a directory other than %windir%system32 (most likely C:windowssystem32)
Reboot your computer into Safe Mode (hit F8 before the boot screen) or into true DOS (from a boot disk)
Overwrite the file %windir%system32ntoskrnl.exe (which should have been backed up) with the extracted exe
Reboot your computer as you normally would
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damn i did it wrong, i made a backup of the file and inserted the new .exe and it works but the problem is that just before the boot up it says invalid bootup.ini any ideas on what to do
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if you boot off of your xp disc, assuming it is bootable, choose the option to use the repair. Your backup copy must be in %windir%windows or below though!! I had the same problem, and I know how much it can suck! :-)
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but.....i am a n00b and i dont knwo how to over right a file in DOS!!1
PLS HElP ME!
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well its actually fairly easy to boot with a diff screen ... just copy your new kernel ( lets say you call it mykrnl.exe) to the dir ntoskrnl.exe is in .. and edit your boot.ini
you should have something like this:
[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINNT=\"Microsoft Windows XP Professional\" /fastdetect
just edit it to this :
[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINNT=\"Microsoft Windows XP Professional hacked logo\" /fastdetect /kernel=mykrnl.exe
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINNT=\"Microsoft Windows XP Professional\" /fastdetect
then all you need to do is reboot ... then choise the one you want ...
koko
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To get to the WinXP boot screens, keep hitting the F8 key it should bring you to a Boot Options screen.
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I have the BootXp program and it works really good (for a freeware program). I don\'t have to touch my ntoskrnl.exe file or go into safe mode (and all that good stuff) and i can select from different boot screens it even has a random screen feature. try downloading it at download.com or bootxp.net i hope this solves your problem.
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in your C:windowssystem32 folder is a File Called ntoskrnel Back it Up In A new Folder For Safty Then Boot Into Safe Mode by Pressing F8 rapidly Before the Boot screen shows up in might take a min so dont panick so then go back to that same folder and drag and drop your new boot screen (ntoskrenl.exe Folder) it in the folder then say yes to replace the folder Good Luck.
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Press F8 once after the PC has detected the IDE devices (hard drives and cd roms, while the tables are loading displaying all the devices and \"VERIFYING DMI POOL....\"), then select SAFE MODE or PROMPT ONLY... alternatively pressing F5 will take you straight into safe mode.
If you are still unable, open a command prompt in XP (hold windows key and press R, type CMD and hit enter) then put a BLANK floppy into your floppy drive and type:
format a: /s
[press enter]
LEAVE THE FLOPPY IN THE DRIVE and reboot your PC... then follow everyone else\'s direction on overwriting the ntoskrnl.exe in DOS...
If you still can\'t do it, Get a win98 cd and pop it in your cd drive, reboot, format your drive and install 98... you dont deserve XP.. LOL
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So then how would you completely disable the bootscreen?
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Can anyone help me with this..? I had a duel bootup system windows 98 and xp And i edited the system startup .. now i can only boot up in xp... can any one give me the lines to put back so i can boot into ether system ... i cant remember what the extra lines are
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS=\"WindowsXp Professional\" /fastdetect /kernel=KERNEL13.exe
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the format command swich /s is not used under XP
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Any one know how to change the logon screen. The OLD styly one not the NEW.
Thanx
Rich
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I am looking into customizing my boot up, found the files and am ready to edit the image. Do I have to keep the same 16 colors that are in the palette? or can I create my own 16 colors? Also are there any sites out there with pe0ople sharing different bootup screens?
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You will need Resource Hacker. http://rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker/ (http://\"http://rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker/\")
Install it and go to c:windowssystem32. Locate the file named: ntosknrl.exe Make a copy of it and name the copy ntoskrnl.bak. Then, using Resource Hacker, open the ntoskrnl.exe. You will see a folder called bitmaps. Open it, and the folder tree will expand to show 11 folders. 1 for the main bitmap, and 8-9 for the moving thingy, and 10-11 for the background. It\'s really easy.
let me know if I can [email protected]
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Try t_bootlogo, a freeware program that loads boot screens for Win2000 and XP.
http://www.tofahrn.de/wger/t_bootlogo.html (http://\"http://www.tofahrn.de/wger/t_bootlogo.html\")
All you need is a 16 color 640x480 bitmap and t_bootlogo does the rest for you.
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I goofed. You can get BootLogo from the \"Tools\" link at this URL . See a description in English of the program here: .
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use BootXP.....www.bootxp.net
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Can someone get my the BootXP prog?
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Are you using any symantec products such as pcanywhere? If so you should try to uninstall it and reinstall only the client......I have noticed that pcAnywhere cause a conflict wiht certian system files. Try that and see if it works for ya.
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Djeezus.. Man get a hold of yourself.. First learn not to type so damn elite.. And get some parental guidance on this one.. Cant believe that there are people out there actualy try to help you. Cause its ALL on themexp.org, just RTFM like its already stated out three times..
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OK LISTEN....I FOUND THE BEST, EASIEST, AND SO FAR ONLY WAY TO CHANGE BOOT AND LOGO SCREENS IN XP. AFTER A LONG TIME I FOUND A PROGRAM THAT DOES EVERYTHING FOR YOU!!!! EVEN RANDOMLY SWITCHES THE SCREENS AT YOUR DISCRETION.............HERE YA GO!! http://members.rogers.com/userxp/logonuibootrandomizer.zip (http://\"http://members.rogers.com/userxp/logonuibootrandomizer.zip\")
i didnt have too much luck with Boot Editor, but LOGON UI BOOT RANDOMIZER eliminates ALL BULL[censored] with changing ntoskrnl files and etc. TWEAK AWAY!!!!
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You can get bootXP.. That will let you change the Boot Screens in WIndows XP and 2000. I use it all the time =) and I LOVE it =)
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i hav xop boot screen u need to backup the file wintoskrnl.exe and then use the boots in packages overitin
the site explains it all
www.themexp.org
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Here is my boot.in file:
[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS=\"Microsoft Windows XP Professional\" /fastdetect
Are you saying that if I change it to:
[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS=\"Microsoft Windows XP Professional\" /fastdetect /kernel=mykrnl.exe
then it will boot with that file loading, which will be my startup screen?
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I can help you with that one. There\'s a lil pgm out there called \"Boot Magic\"/\"Partition Magic 7.0\" that\'ll accomplished your desired goals. This is the easiest way, trust me. On my machine I have Xp Corp Pro as the default ,ME,2000 PRO. 98 SE,& Linux. At the boot screen it gives you the option of which OS you would like to run with a 20 sec. timer before it boots into your default OS.
holla --- if you need more help [email protected]
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Ok listen here is what u need to do its all this simple
1: find your file named \"ntoskrnl.exe\" in C:WINDOWSsystem32
2: back it up
3: get your new boot screen and name it \"ntoskrnl.exe\"
4: put it in C:WINDOWSsystem32
5: replace say yes
6: reboot
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If your looking to change your boot screen Try this site it has a software that will change you bootscreen its at www.bootxp.net/download.htm. I used it and it works.
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Is ntoskrln.exe just a generic boot screen? Meening will any ntoskrln.exe from any XP system be the same? I want my old boot screen back and I didn;t back up my old one. I have another XP machine, will it\'s ntoskrln.exe work on my other computer?
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I\'m having a problem downloading the 16.pal file. it isn\'t in acceptable format to be opened by paint shop.
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there was 2 different pallettes... you\'ve downloaded the photoshop one, try downloading the other one...
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/// Kid
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i have a question about the boot screens. i got a awsome looking boot screen from themexp.org but when i loaded and everything it works but it\'s blurry it\'s not sharp. does anyone know why it does that. also i got a new logon screen and it is the same way it looks blurry.
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I am trying to install stylexp, from themexp.org onto my winxp comp. When it starts installing it comes up with an error: The installtion key is invalid. D:SourceTGTSoftCommontgtSectgtSecprovider.cpp( 591) : 0xC0040409
Any ideas on what this is and how to get around it. I do have another hard drive as the D drive, but there is nothing on it.
Please help.
Thanks
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You can boot off your XP cdrom then choose a Console Recovery. It will give you a half-way decent command prompt to replace files that windows locks.
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down load the web ferret for free and type in xp boot screens it will look though 5oo serch engines to find,once done that you canlook at each on on the menu and click and it will tell you what to remove and what to replace
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GOOD
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Ok, how do i use or get to a console recovery from the XP Pro CD?
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Ok, got the command prompt. What do I do after that?
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blah, just download bootxp from http://www.bootxp.net/ (http://\"http://www.bootxp.net/\") and you don\'t have to do a darn thing to make it work.... sheesh kids, always making it complicated
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Just download boot edittor
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rename your new ntoskrnl.exe to logoos.exe
put it in %systemroot%
then modify your boot.ini
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINNT=\"Microsoft Windows XP Professional\" /fastdetect /kernel=logoos.exe
that should do the trick..
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Could anyone tell me why I can\'t randomize boot screens everytime windows reboots? I have windows xp prof. and I\'m using Logonui randomizer which works except for the fact that in doesn\'t randomize of course.
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you lot should realise that if you are using sp1, the ntoskrnl.exe file is totally different to the ntoskrnl.exe from the standard xp.
Installing the wrong one will cause your pc to not boot up, so make sure u know what u r doing
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Hi,
I\'ve worked with reshacker, and everything works fine.
Now I want to expand the possibilities. How can I move that moving thingy (you know, the statusbar stuff).
How can I move it (up/down/left/right)?
Or even better, is it possible to move it?
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Assuming this works, that\'s excellent work. Thanks for the quicktip.
--dev--
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Hello!
Is it possible to edit registry or whatever to remove the boot-up animation completely? If yes; Will you see the starting of services, daemons etc. like in Linux?
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Yes there is ... and to save you some time, check the instructions at the link below on \"CREATING A BOOT DISK FOR AN NTFS OR FAT PARTITION\"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;en-us;311073 (http://\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311073\")
It was a life saver.
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got a problem getting your win9x / win2k (NT) / XP bootup screen to work...
send me an email at:
[email protected]
and I will make sure it will work for you!
- I\'ll even write you a program to fix it for you.....if you think you need it.
Anyway! have a good one today =)
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OKAY i have tired devery thing about changing a XP boot up screen can u give me full instructions aon how to do ti if u could emaiul me at zacgydeEmail Removed and put in the subjexct bar XP
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I\'m finding now that after the latest service pack, boot screen mods are causing XP to blue screen right after the boot screen is done with its run.. It is specificly this problem because when I restored the previous ntoskrl(whatever its called) file from backup the system ran find again.. I tested this on two seperate machines.
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Download a boot screen and restart in safe mode (press F8 before it boots up then choose \"start up in safe mode\") and cop, paste the files into C:WindowsSystem 32
If your in safe mode it should work, reboot and it should be their.
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www.Sysinternals.com sells a little proggy (NTFSDOS) that gives you the ability to access NTFS from DOS (or win9x) . . . . as in a DOS boot disk . . . don\'t leave home without it!!!!!!!!
Free version is read only.
It\'s always a good practice to leave the first Gig or two of your hard drive as a fat16 partition with DOS, and Win98 on it, not to mention anything you might need for a restore like Partiton Magic, PKZip, winzip, WinRar, NTFS for DOS, etc. This way if you can\'t boot into your NT based operating system (NT, 2K, XP) you can at least get in there to fix it or have net access to look for tools or advice on how to fix it.
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You dont boot to command prompt with XP. Command prompts are bascially gone now. You can get a psuedo-command prompt with the recovery console, but that wont be helpful in most cases
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JK
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ok, here\'s the deal, i downloaded resource hacker and edited my ntoskrnl file, then i re-compiled it and booted into a command prompt and placed it as my new boot screen. when i rebooted, all i see is a black screen with the stupid slider loader thingy moving, i can\'t get the picture to show up, please help. thank you.
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Get a program called logon loader. It will change your boot screen without using safe mode.
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To get logon loader go to www.deviantart.com.
Choose software. Find Logon Loader.
To download click on the file size.
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Yo dude!
Don\'t bother making your own!
Go to www.themexp.org
Go to boot screens and search!
To instal read the \"How To Install\" bar on the top!
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I would simply like to design my own BOOT SCREENS is there a way to do that with Photoshop, and Not Have to Copy the Kernel from my System32 everytime I want to design...
Is there a way to just design what I want?
I\'ve very good a designing in Photoshop, but how do I apply the two?
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I have pictures of my family that I would like to use as my BOOT SCREEN, I\'ve been using BOOTXP, and I\'m kind of getting it, but still a little slow with it. I enjoy designing very much so I want to use some of my own work.
QUESTION: When I try to pull in my picture tp replace the old one (Using BOOTXP - Picture designed in PS7) It tells me one of the color palletts is wrong, and it screws up the colors...
How do I keep that crystal clear look, like everyone else has?
Thanks for your help...
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Hey
I wasted alot of time making an original image for my boot screen. To acheive that, I had to edit (through paint shop pro / notepad) the pallet winXP uses for its boot screen. I have the boot screen set up and all that jazz. For like half a second the propper colors are up, then the screen flashes black, and then all the colors are messed up. Does anyone know how to remedy this.... thanks.
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what a bunch of newbies
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i need this software
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WHat about for Logon screen? can u do the same without replacing the file...?
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I also followed the instructions and restarted under safemode as instructed, however it still shows the normal windows xp pro screen.
But when I open the file the file still has the custom image.
I am a noob, please help my noob slelf =()
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You have reboot into safe mode, and replace the file while in safe mode. Then reboot into windows normally and it should \"work.\"
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I want to use my own images for boot screens. When I replace the bitmap in the ntoskrnl.exe file with one of my bitmaps, the colors of the boot screen either comes out all whack or completely black. How can I fix this? Thanks.
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Clear the ntoskrnel.exe in SAVE MODE and restart your computer. That\'s all
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Used the reghack, changed the 1st file, i made a new bmp to use, but after i loaded it 1 time it kept giving me error, anyone know how to make a bmp that is acceptable,
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Hey.
The boot logo u have spent much time creating in Photoshop is displaying in black because u have not saved it in the correct format.
Apparently the loading page is displayed in dos colours, so u have to use the DOS color range (palette). Also limited to 640x480 res. The palete is called 16.act. http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/xpbootlogo/16.act (http://\"http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/xpbootlogo/16.act\")
You must save it as a *.bmp and in 4bit. Use save as in Photoshop (not save for web).
I know u may think u're a pro with Photoshop (as do I), but when your colors are so limited, its almost imposible to make anything half as good as 32bit.
What I've done is made a simple loading page, but followed that with a very nice, high detail logon page. You must have your Welcome Page enabled in Control Panel for that to display at all though.
nJoy
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[quote name=\'SmyLer\' date=\'Dec 23 2001, 08:30 AM\']It still isnt working and thx 4 the webby but there isnt anythin on there about the boot screens plz help,im beggin if any 1 can tell!! how do you boot in to Comand prompt because i have XP and it dont do that so you use the windows based 1 but how do you restart do i just restart or is there another way plz help me thx[/quote]
/mad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':angry:\' /> I have the same problem 1stly i odnt know how 2 oe thae file and ti says blocked by win32
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need some help.
I've a notebook with a xp pro and i tried to boot up XP with one screen from themexp. When computer restarts the boot image os ok but suddendly the XP freezes, and do not continue. I've tried the F8 key and start in safe mode, but the windows don't want to start. Can you help me?
Sorry my english
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After I changed my boot screen, the computer just keeps restarting each time after the boot screen appears. How do I fix this problem?
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A whole string of partitions comes out when I try to boot my comp in safe mode and then the comp. restarts again.
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Im actually having a problem with Res Hacker.. saying i cant replace the bmp cause its an invalid bmp image. What am i doing wrong there?
And when i did manage to get the bmp to work, and i rebooted my pc.. the screen didnt even pop up, it was just a black startup screen lol.. i dont get it.
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Hey I want to change out the login for xp pro on a network. What bmp number is it? also what bmp is it for windows 2000 server for the login screen?
Thanks
also I can do 32 bit for these and not the old nasty 16bit like on the first screens in xp pro?
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ive been wanting to create my own xp bootscreen with atleast a presentable picture resolution, because all the bootscreen that im seeing at themexp.org looks great,but whenever i add an image to my bootscreen it somewhat
change its color and it looks like a dump of garbage, can anyone help me??