Post by: reelargephish on May 16, 2006, 08:16:06 PM
I have nothing to gain from pretending to have sent him the 33 mil. I knew that Max would not send me the money unless Spin confirmed that he had it. I am very angry about this spin basically stole 165 dollars from me. I didn't want to have to post this but he refuses to talk to me on msn. I know he is a trusted member on this site but I think the temptation of having 33 mil was too much for him to handle. This is what I get for trusting someone on an internet forum. Beware using Spin as a mm. I'm sure he has probably done dozens of mm jobs but in this one the temptation was too much for him. I welcome him to respond and defend his position.
Post by: Josetann on May 16, 2006, 10:07:44 PM
Post by: Spin on May 16, 2006, 10:27:23 PM
Post by: Allanon on May 16, 2006, 10:44:46 PM
Post by: dukefan552 on May 16, 2006, 10:50:37 PM
Post by: RSGOD on May 16, 2006, 10:54:59 PM
Official MM's should be an Endangered species..they keep dying out.
This is why spin built up a Reputation...now he has his loyal customers on his side meanwhile reel is out 33m/ $165 usd...what ppl dont understand is he wasent goign to scamm there 1m and 10m deals he wanted an even bigger deal...guess he dident figure it would be this big of an issue.
Post by: Allanon on May 16, 2006, 10:55:58 PM
I trust SPin more than some guy with no evidence and only 13 posts.
Maybe when I see some screenshots.
Post by: RSGOD on May 16, 2006, 11:05:26 PM
Thats my point of view, iv sold over 80m on these forums, when i got the real $ n my paypal account i was happy as can be, until tom124 scammed me outta 5m, then i made a post...all im saying is what would reel gain from this, if spin mmed the 87m and everything went well why would the seller being make this kind of accusation.
Tell me your point of view allanon, i would appritiate hearing it.
Thanks
I know if someone mmed 87m for me and everythng went well, and then i went to sell the other 33m and got scammed i would feel the same way reel does.....Think about it real sold most of his cash successfully whats the need for making a post that spin scammed? Also allanon wasent spin identified as a scammer at first? dident ppl say he was a scammer, now hes an official MM, and trusted member...You guys are letting just anyone in as a MM.
Thats why these forums have so many scammers...to be honest the reason im stickign up for reel has nothing to do with a feud between me and spin...its because i feel strongly about what he did...and i dont feel this should be taken as a lie..i think this should be looked into.
Post by: Allanon on May 16, 2006, 11:05:46 PM
Post by: RSGOD on May 16, 2006, 11:09:48 PM
I no for a fact if someone MMed 87m for me and everythign went well id be happy let along mad enought to ruin someones rep..also what you dotn realize is when your doing buisness with a trusted member you really dotn think to take pics and so on because you think everything will go well...just take that into mind.
Post by: Allanon on May 16, 2006, 11:14:35 PM
Post by: RSGOD on May 16, 2006, 11:36:18 PM
But, i spoke to reel and he explained to me calmly that spin sent him an e check for mills, he dident exept the e-check because it takes 3-4 days to clear..so he game the money back and then he said yes loggin in sayign he wanted to buy the 33m, he said ok and used spin as MM, he said sry to spin for not acceopting an e-check..then he traded spin the 33m..spin logged blocked him and also i dont no where yes is he seems to be avoiding this convo not even giving a say in this..
Plus i no somethings going on weather it be, scamming or lieing..ill figure it out sooner or later.
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 12:08:03 AM
Post by: Xtreme on May 17, 2006, 01:40:56 AM
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 09:29:33 AM
Post by: reelargephish on May 17, 2006, 10:00:53 AM
Rather then try to work with me you immedietly went on the defensive accusing me of doing something and asking me for proof which you knew I didn't have. I'm sorry this had to happen and I hope you will be able to come to your senses and return what is mine. I don't want to get all moralistic here but I do believe in karma and this will come back to bite you in the ass.
Post by: reelargephish on May 17, 2006, 10:13:17 AM
I was waiting for the transaction to complete to give spin the praise he would have deserved had the transaction been successful. I don't know what you mean by Spin ignoring me for being annoying. He didn't block me until after I gave him the 33 mil and I tried to figure out what happened. This is when he said I was annoying and blocked me. I don't expect you to take action without proof, and Spin didn't either. I am new to this forum and perhaps thats why he choose me to take advantage of. I am just letting my story be known that even trusted members can be tempted sometimes.
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 10:21:28 AM
Post by: kingikz1001 on May 17, 2006, 10:57:55 AM
Post by: Xtreme on May 17, 2006, 12:15:09 PM
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 12:16:09 PM
Post by: kingikz1001 on May 17, 2006, 12:28:23 PM
Post by: reelargephish on May 17, 2006, 12:41:31 PM
Until this post I still had held a small belief that you might be innocent. When you unblocked me I sent one calm message asking you if there could be a glitch in the game based on you not sending me an item in return for the 33 mil. You didn't respond for a minute and then you blocked me again. Lieing about our conversation is all the proof I need for me to know that you have the 33 mil.
Post by: RSGOD on May 17, 2006, 12:51:04 PM
also spin it might seem you have more ppl on your side then me, but just remember who was here first...and also remember you were called a scammer at first (when you first came to this site), i was never called a scammer. So you can play the act of this big almighty MM, but what it comes down to is...You'r a 13 year old kid who plays runescape, you dont no nothing yet your still a kid, thats all.
Post by: bloodogre on May 17, 2006, 01:44:29 PM
and still no proof nothink can b done nor will b done without proof
Post by: yeseysyysysysysysy on May 17, 2006, 01:45:06 PM
Post by: bloodogre on May 17, 2006, 01:46:12 PM
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
mm 87/120m and u say that successful ??? id say not if sumwhere along the line i couldnt find 33m of the 120 im supposed to get or give or whatever i would call it either a scam or unsuccessful......
Post by: RSGOD on May 17, 2006, 03:08:40 PM
Hey pro and blood, can you guys not face the fact that he probley did do it?
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 03:24:19 PM
Post by: watever123 on May 17, 2006, 03:25:11 PM
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 03:51:00 PM
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i'd like some evidence? wat ya got for me eh eh? noob, false accusations get u no where
hmmmm that kinda seems like your taunting him sayin sumthing like " haha u got no proof that i scammed you" to me thats just what it seems like ......but iono lol
Post by: muhahaha on May 17, 2006, 04:06:40 PM
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Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 04:08:34 PM
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 04:09:56 PM
no thats me getting annoyed at all this bull, this thread just carrys from the other that was made, no i was never titled a 'scammer' and never will be one. and the 87/120 mil i put that up before the trade was finished, the 87 was succesful .. the 33 was pending until a later date (which was abt 2 weeks) hense 87 of 120 mil. the 33 mil never appeared as far as im concerned, and just to add lump it or l;eave it i will continue to be a very safe mm on this site, i just see this as a act of jelousy on a couple of peoples behalf. Sorry to dissapoint no im not 13, but you can keep guessing or trying to annoy or stir it up as much as ya like, there will be no reaction.
Post by: Mar0c on May 17, 2006, 04:10:09 PM
Wise talking by Pro edge.
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Post by: muhahaha on May 17, 2006, 04:11:25 PM
Ur I doubt that RSGOD scams, he makes a point of getting the scammers caught
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 04:14:22 PM
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 04:15:29 PM
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Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 04:17:44 PM
Post by: yeseysyysysysysysy on May 17, 2006, 04:21:20 PM
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 04:23:05 PM
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 04:23:41 PM
see..if he paid for the whole 120m and didnt get 33m thats not successful !!! but since or if he was buying in chunks and paid part by part up to 87 m
then paid for 33m and didnt get it thats still unsuccessful cause he didnt get 33m he paid for....now if he didnt pay for the 33m and didnt get the 33m its no big deal....he stil paid the right amount for 87.
Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 04:26:03 PM
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 04:28:36 PM
and you didnt get handed 33m to trade??
if he did pay for the 33m and u got the mills to give him and didnt get them to him then ya unsuccessful and a scam....but if he didnt pay for the 33m and u got handed the 33m hah u just got 33m lol...no jp u should give it back to him....(not sayin you have it ..jsut sayin in a scenario or sumthin )
Post by: Mar0c on May 17, 2006, 04:31:41 PM
Frankly, i don't care about admitting it because i know that 99.9% of the population of TTG would do the
exact same thing except i'm man enough to admit it and you lot ain't... And as you can see, Spin falls into that massive percentage that would scam for that amount of cash no matter what the consequence be.
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 04:36:40 PM
Post by: Mar0c on May 17, 2006, 04:41:12 PM
Post by: pro edge on May 17, 2006, 04:42:26 PM
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Post by: Spin on May 17, 2006, 04:45:56 PM
Post by: reelargephish on May 17, 2006, 06:10:42 PM
Before we started the initial transaction for the 120 mil I showed it to both you and yesyesyes. So there is no dispute as to weather or not that existed. I wanted to sell this! This was my goal. I wanted to sell it all of the first night but was unsuccessful because of yesyesyes's paypal. I don't see how it is obvious that I didn't have the 33 mil. I attempted to sell you 33 mil just 5 minutes earlier and you saw 5 mil of it. After I said I was going to sell it to yesyesyes instead and use you as a middle man I traded the 33 mil and you claim to have never recieved it. I do not play runescape anymore so I have no use for the gp. I only cared about the usd's. Spin admitted to me that even if he did take it he would never admit to it so I have no reason to believe him. Some people have stated that he has scammed in the past, I dont know if its true or not but if it is it shows that hes capable of doing it and 33 mil is more then enough to set this off. You also said yourself that you have some evil inside of you, how much gp is needed for that evil to kick in. If 33 mil doesn't set you off I dont think anything would. As mar0c stated, everyone has a limit before temptation sets in. Since I do not play runescape anymore I really am not aware how much 33 mil is worth and what people are willing to do to get it. If I wasn't so eager to get the money I would have just sent it in 5 mil bunches but after waiting 2 weeks I wanted to get the trade done with as fast as possible.
Throughout this entire ordeal I tried to remain as proffesional as possible. I tried to leave open that small chance that you may be innocent and I never resorted to name calling or questioning of charachter.
You however have made numerous small, offtopic, pointless posts, called me a "noob", egged me on to try to find evidence, and just seemingly did not take any of this seriously.
Spin, if your innocent and my gp did in fact vanish into nowhere, I apoligize.
If not I obviously hope your conscious will get to you and you will give it back to me. You never have to admit it to anyone on the forums and I will not make anymore posts about the subject. I take a lot of the blame myself for sending 33 mil to someone I barely know. Being tempted to take it is being human, but its also nescessary to realize when you make a mistake and rectify the situation.
Post by: Snowzak on May 18, 2006, 02:41:09 AM
Im getting confused
/blink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':blink:\' />hahahaha you got called a noob
Post by: Mar0c on May 18, 2006, 03:16:12 AM
Spin, even though gossip is going around that you've scammed someone out of 33 mill i reckon that you'll still be trusted after all this.. and you know why?
Because throughout all the time you've been on TTG you've earn't yourself a handful of kiss asses that will, no matter what the accusation be, bail you out. Anyhow this was anyone else, say for example.. Me. My name would be printed boldly on the scammers list in a matter of seconds.
Post by: filipe paulo on May 18, 2006, 05:34:02 AM
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Post by: Spin on May 18, 2006, 07:36:10 AM
i think your putting words into my mouth, i have never said anything of the sort.
[quote name=\'reelargephish\' post=\'122412\' date=\'May 17 2006, 05:10 PM\']Spin, if your innocent and my gp did in fact vanish into nowhere, I apoligize.[/quote]
Apology Accepted.
Post by: scinaen on May 18, 2006, 09:12:14 AM
Post by: reelargephish on May 18, 2006, 09:52:36 AM
This is what you told me in a pm:
if i really honestly took your money, for one it is in my personality i wouldnt want to face it, and i would have left the site, and blocked yours and anybody elses msn.
Now I do not believe that someone with 1000 posts on a forum and a history of positive feedback would be so quick to get up and run from a site because a new member accused them of doing something. It may be in your personality to not face it but I don't think it is in your personality to get up and run from this site.
[quote name=\'Spin\' post=\'122537\' date=\'May 18 2006, 06:36 AM\']Apology Accepted.[/quote]
This is my last post and I am now done with this forum. You have made numerous posts like these where you have a cocky attitude and treat me with no respect. It's bad enough that I am out 33 mil but you seem to find it nescessary to rub it in with every chance you get. Everyone who says I am just accusing him for no reason needs to wake up and think over the sitution. I have nothing to gain from doing this. I was elated to sell the first 87 mil and was over anxious to get rid of the last 33 mil. I did not know Spin until this happened and have no reason to want to ruin his rep. I wanted to sell my gp and I got screwed. It is up to you to guys to make your own descisions about wheather or not to do business with Spin but make sure you keep this event in the back of your minds.
Spin I doubt you will change your mind but if you do my offer still stands. If you give back the mils I wont tell anyone here what you did you can remain a reputable mm. I'm done with this forum so just send me a pm if you change your mind. Your attitutde has convinced me of your guilt so if you don't change your mind enjoy the 33 mil.
Post by: Spin on May 18, 2006, 10:51:11 AM
"Spin admitted to me that even if he did take it he would never admit to it so I have no reason to believe him."
This has nothing to do with that paragraph, about me saying i would leave the site if i had took it, because i wouldnt want to face it.
Post by: RSGOD on May 18, 2006, 10:58:53 AM
Post by: kingikz1001 on May 18, 2006, 12:45:30 PM
i may be wrong, but i think bouth of you have been building up trust then going for it when a big scam comes up.
like i said, i may be wrong.
Post by: Spin on May 18, 2006, 04:44:46 PM
i may be wrong, but i think bouth of you have been building up trust then going for it when a big scam comes up.
like i said, i may be wrong.[/quote]
rofl. definately wrong, im friends with most of the mm on here, and everyone else who i have helped.
Post by: scinaen on May 20, 2006, 04:16:16 AM
true..and i really doubt spin has scammed for obvious reasons
Post by: TheDezired1 on August 09, 2007, 08:04:25 AM
Post by: Snowzak on August 09, 2007, 09:55:05 AM