Post by: The_Flames on September 05, 2002, 10:53:23 AM
I want to create a disk like this as a fixed router that allows the system to be loaded from a floppy disk / cdrom configuration.
The only other solution that I would consider is a Linux firewall that can load from a floppy disk / or start loading from floppy and load other files into ram.
The system that this will be running on will be a 486dx4 100, 16 MB ram, 8X cdrom, 2 PCI 10mb network cards, an ISA soundcard that can load the cdrom drive, and a floppy disk drive.
Can anyone think of a way of creating a cdrom/floppy configuration that can help me ???
Post by: Space Between on September 05, 2002, 10:59:10 AM
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downright_p...s_bootdisks.htm (http://\"http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downright_pages/downrights_bootdisks.htm\")
Im not too sure what your tryign to do by your first post.
Are you trying to start the install of a win95 off a floppy and have it during the boot off the floppy redirect to the cd without user intervention?
again im not too sure what you want to do
Post by: Space Between on September 05, 2002, 11:08:24 AM
are you trying to install windows without a hdd?
you mean you want to run a installed win95 off a cd?
I have no idea on how to do that.
You would have to copy over a installed dir, then poitn diskem1x to boot the boot sector off that cd. I think i saw the boot sector for win95 on a multiboot help guide that let\'s your configure the which boot sector\'s (If you use linux you probably already know which one). I however run Linux but don\'t know the sector for win95. I know if you could point it to that it would start to load. You might want to use the autoexec.bat to load all the files into memory but in your system your memory would overflow very quickly.
It cannot take a hdd??? could you buy a controller card and hook it up to that? I know it\'s not what you looking for but it\'s what i have to do to load a 40gig on a 486 since the bios isnt bootable to cd\'s and can\'t recongize anythign larger than a 512mb hdd.
Post by: Space Between on September 08, 2002, 10:20:37 PM
what did you mean...and did you work it out like you wanted to?
Post by: The_Flames on September 09, 2002, 06:49:03 PM
I have been investigating linux floppy routers and there are loads, so I\'m having fun time picking the best one for me
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Post by: Space Between on September 10, 2002, 03:41:20 AM
http://www.heise.de/ct/english/99/11/206/ (http://\"http://www.heise.de/ct/english/99/11/206/\")
Post by: Space Between on September 10, 2002, 03:42:06 AM
Post by: Space Between on September 10, 2002, 04:16:49 AM
Ok it looks like it will work, almost postive. My only ? is how would you edit the listed files there to accomadate no using a hdd at all. It describe\'s using a hdd...not if you don\'t have one. See i too have several machines that wont run because i either don\'t have a controller card for them to hold biggger hdd\'s and/or the bios won\'t support the 30+gig hdd\'s i have. So there is no real way to even get them to use a hdd.
I\'m left in the dark on that one. Especially the part regarding the keyboard and so on. Is there a generic way to just make those file\'s work no matter what...or do you really need to have a hdd installed so the system recongize\'s all your current hardware?
Im gonna try this but need to know if this will play a part on getting the win9x OS to run off the cd. Obviously regarding the source of the article it has been done and it work\'s...but no mention if you don\'t have a hdd at all.
Post by: Evilvoice on September 11, 2002, 03:59:17 PM
Post by: Jane Doe on September 17, 2002, 05:33:29 AM
I´ve been workin´on this problem of booting from CD,too.
And I think it is possible.
Why do I think so ? Because I have a MO ( Magneto-Optical ) SCSI Device, that is able to boot. I wrote a ready made Installation of 95 to it after making it bootable with sys x: . And what the hell, it worked. Windows95 booted with many Errors, yes, but it booted into the Desktop. If I would have had more time I would have searched for the programparts that wrote to the MO and would have fixed it. But I usually make a mirror of my system and install it back when useful.
So it could be possible to install W95 onto a LS120 (also a MO) to test it. It isn´t surely working on a CD Rom with \"El Torinto\" specification, but for the first testing and bugeliminating it is useful. Because of the 120 MB of the LS120 Floppy Disc you would be able to copy the working system to the floppy by useing this:
1. Start in DOS Mode
2. Sys a:
3. Xcopy32 /k /r /e /i /s /c /h ( ´kreisch´ is german for \"Cry Out\")
4. Protect the LS120 an try to boot.
The ISO BOOT CD is for shure more tricky. If at all try to use Nero HDD Emulation. Use a 640 MB Partition with installed System on it and write it with NERO to a 10x CD-RW and try out.
Of course, this tipps are not the leading point to the solution, but I think they will help testing and creating a :
WINDOWS \"KNOPPIX\" Edition.
Bootable and useable from \"CD-ROM\".
No Installation necessary.
I will keep track on it, as and give my support to this projekt.
J.
Post by: Evilvoice on September 17, 2002, 06:35:01 PM
Post by: Space Between on September 17, 2002, 09:43:45 PM
im not sure on how they made the image however...they would\'nt give me that much time and said \"why you can run a better cdfs with Linux\"
so the conversation didnt\' go to far.
i know it can be done though...can i prove this...no.
but all that windows 9x really requires to run is 16mb ram and a drive letter.
Post by: markshere on September 21, 2002, 11:27:01 PM
cd
cdwindows
win.com
you can also add this to a bootable cdrom
why do that though get a drive install linux emulate all windows os inside of linux at one time