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Title: i have to say this...
Post by: MadHatter on August 07, 2007, 12:26:22 PM
heres a list of all the elites and why they would vote no on mypoll (those who did anyway)

-Allanon(Founder)--didnt vote
-Allanon(Founder)
-Bloodogre(president)-i have no idea why he said no
-Zspec32(vice president)-inactive
-GOD OF WAR-he cant get on because he moved so idk
-Evil Shady-he hates me for flaming him?
-Pro Edge-idk if he voted
-b a l a n c e-inactive
-Everlasting Death-hates me for runecore and ton talk and everything
-snake-master- WOW...he hates me because i turned on ryan when he was proven to be a scammer just because cursed and ryan are good friends....
-RSGOD--didnt vote/inactive
-watever123-inactive
-Pureblood-votes yes
-berencam-idk what he voted
-LiTtLeFlY-voted yes?
-Gtech Warriors-idk what he voted
-Tamdog-inactive
-Reazee-voted no because of the whole wdude thing
-JBLee / Jason-voted yes
-Zack the Man-didnt vote


so...yea i just had to tell everyone that
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Post by: Aragost / Evil Shady on August 07, 2007, 03:13:01 PM
Cursed wasn't here, dumbasss....., he's on hoilday in France, read your elite thread, ^^ and this is just fucking spam, thats showing a good impression isn't it... r-tard... burn

- Nick
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Post by: JB Lee on August 07, 2007, 03:14:46 PM
no, this is spam:

BLUEBERRIES!!!!!!
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Post by: Aragost / Evil Shady on August 07, 2007, 03:31:14 PM
Wednesday to Thursday, Thursday to Friday, Friday to Saturday, Saturday to Sunday, Sunday to Monday
_________^^ 1_______________^^ 2__________^^ 3_______________^^ 4____________^^ 5

Monday to Tuesday, Tuesday to Wednesday
_______^^ 6_____________ ^^ 7

He should be de-elited on the grounds that he's a fucktard and that in Eliting him PureBlood broke "Da Rulez"... and PureBlood take this time to review your (wasted) education.

- Nick
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Post by: Pureblood on August 07, 2007, 04:28:22 PM
Now i am getting fucking pissed off. I did not elite him. Allanon did. If Allanon didn't agree he didn't have to elite him. What the fuck does it matter. I hate what the elites are turning into. He is going to have a fucking one week pole. It ain't that big of deal. One fucking day. I am almost sure that everyone that wanted to vote did. You said cursed was gone for two weeks. That means that he wouldn't have been able to vote any way. So everyone that wanted to vote did vote. What does it matter if it was closed one fucking day early. If you wouldn't be so fucking stubborn and just forgive him for spamming your forum we wouldn't have to be fighting over closing his poll one day earlier.
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Post by: greazee on August 07, 2007, 05:05:37 PM
[quote name=\'Pureblood\' post=\'370424\' date=\'Aug 7 2007, 04:28 PM\']Now i am getting fucking pissed off. I did not elite him. Allanon did. If Allanon didn't agree he didn't have to elite him. What the fuck does it matter. I hate what the elites are turning into. He is going to have a fucking one week pole. It ain't that big of deal. One fucking day. I am almost sure that everyone that wanted to vote did. You said cursed was gone for two weeks. That means that he wouldn't have been able to vote any way. So everyone that wanted to vote did vote. What does it matter if it was closed one fucking day early. If you wouldn't be so fucking stubborn and just forgive him for spamming your forum we wouldn't have to be fighting over closing his poll one day earlier.[/quote]

umm what the elites have turned into? your breaking the rules in a way and aragost was mad about it, you dont see it as a big deal because you want him to be elite, aragost sees it as unfair because he doesnt want him to be elite....

the thing is though aragost is right despite his motives, you closed it early and that extra day, no matter the outcome, does matter. Last time JBLees poll was closed early which saved him from losing his poll since aragost was most likely going to vote no. Thats the only other case that this happened in because this closing the polls only started up recently.


if your gonna close it one day early why not close it two days early? hell go for three... how about we just make someone elite after reccomending them...

and you calling him stubborn does not fit at all, you are the one who closed it early and refuse to correct it...

this post probly wont make much sense when you read it since im just kinda of typing while distracted since i dont really care about this, just the fact that you wouldnt admit that wednesday at 6:30pm to monday at 11:30pm wasnt a full week...
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Post by: JB Lee on August 07, 2007, 05:10:51 PM
pureblood cussed!
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Post by: greazee on August 07, 2007, 05:13:21 PM
of course he is swearing, he dropped his sippy cup and all his juice got on the carpet
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Post by: Gtech Warriors on August 07, 2007, 07:03:03 PM
i voted yes...
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Post by: Small Shoe Magoo on August 08, 2007, 02:02:33 AM
I wanted tov ote on the sixth day but i couldnt *tear*
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Post by: Kyra Yamato on August 08, 2007, 07:20:21 AM
You people have turned the elites from something of a leadership into a childish game...enough of this foolishness already damn you!
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Post by: littlefly1 on August 08, 2007, 10:30:55 PM
Well since I just got back to TTG like couple weeks ago I never got to know you when the poll was made so I didn't vote but..I said i would vote "yes" if lots of people were voting good for you. I think it was 4 yes and 4 no so I just didnt vote.
Congrats on making elite, you wouldnt of been able to post this if you didnt make it. lol. anyways ill have to get to know you and learn about your trust and just you as a person. Then i'll be able to vote. Thats mostly why I didnt vote.

You did tell me that 2 of the elites recomended you..but TTG I noticed only has to do with who is friends and who isnt so if a poll is made for someone. You will vote yes if you like him and no if you dont. Personaly if i was running this forum I would make sure that it wasnt like that. That if he was trusted then you would vote yes, even if you don't like the guy. But its alot different then that at TTG. anways ill get to know you man and learn about ya /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

PS: If I were running this forum, I would of made sure everyone that made the elite team likes each other alot and is mature enough to stay. I notice that it is some what different here..thats all im going to say. lol..Anyways to much drama for a team to have. If I were owner of this forum, no offence but I would get rid of all the drama people and keep the mature ones that have fun, like making people happy and get the job done and don't worry about who gets the most mm jobs and stuff. Like I said, here at TTG its alot different. Alot of the elites just talk about why they don't like someone and why they want the person to get elite tooken away. Also who is most popular and has the most mm jobs. Also alot just fight over nothing..If i were owner, i would put together a mature team that is just mature enough for one.. not every time i check the elite forum, the threads are about fighting and stuff. But some things might be a little to late to change at this forum. lol. No More To SaY!
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Post by: Small Shoe Magoo on August 09, 2007, 03:43:30 AM
^ You must've had a lot going in your mind to write all that :$, Neways... I didn't vote, and I will still be making my mind up to wether vote yes or no on your one week stay.
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Post by: Allanon on August 09, 2007, 11:43:36 AM
His poll is open again ZTM
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Post by: littlefly1 on August 10, 2007, 12:05:22 AM
Well i think i was just tired and spoke my mind. I got up today and read some of it and idk..maybe i would of said the same. anyways everything is good at this forum, its just i see alot of controversy and it gets in my head some times. lol.
I wish we stop fighting on who becomes elite and just say "yes" or "no" and stop making fights and stuff on the person becoming elite.

The only elites I would vote for personaly is people that get along with everyone and is trusted. If we did that than this thread and alot of other threads wouldnt of been made. lol. But mostly i would look for is maturity in a person when i vote "yes" on him/her. I don't want someone coming in that others don't like on the team because then that person isnt a good team player and isnt a delightful person to talk to. But here at TTG it might be a little late. I see alot of arguing and stuff. Thats why i said in my other post on this thread that if i were owner of this forum, the day I started recuiting elites, i would make sure they are mature and fun to be around and trusted (which being mature means that you arnt going to scam which means your trusted). anyways..lol thats all i got to say.
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Post by: JB Lee on August 10, 2007, 12:39:09 AM
problem with that is that not everyone likes everyone...you cant always get along with everyone...especially when there is a history of the other person doing something personally wrong to you...

lets put a "hypothetical" situation out on the table:

a normal member starts a site and gets an elite as a tech admin. since he is an elite, the normal member trusts him enough to give important info to him. Then the elite hacks the site...

now the normal member doesnt like the elite, and obviously the elite wont like the normal member anymore...so there will be controversy...why should this stop the normal member from becoming an elite? the elite that hacked the site will obviously vote no...which isnt fair, he is a hacker...

how would you, if you owned the site, deal with that?

then lets say that this elite hacker is friends with many of the elites, or at least knows them better than the normal member does...so the elite convinces others to vote no...now the member has lost any chance of becoming an elite...all because the  elite hacked his site...

how is this a fair situation?

you cant base things on only picking people that will get along with everyone...and i think if you actually started a site, you would see how hard it is.
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Post by: littlefly1 on August 10, 2007, 01:19:54 AM
No the thing is..If an elite hacked someone then i would ban him from the site so he isnt elite anymore. If the guy doesnt have proof than thats his fault. Also I wouldnt of picked someone that wasnt mature enough and hacked people..

Alot of the elites become elite in like 4 months or less..I became elite after a year of being a member and over 60 transactions. Do you really think im going to scam anyone? Thats the type of person that I would make elite for TTG. but alot of elites that became elite on TTG has not been what i have been through before being elite, if anyone. Matter of fact, no one..Not to mention having over 1000 posts before becoming elite. I see elites now that arn't over 600..

If i were owner, thats the type of person that would become elite, because I know that he isnt here to scam. Not after being active and loyal for over a year, 60+ tranactions and 1000+ posts. Who in their right mind would scam after waiting that long and being that loyal when becoming elite. So yes those are the type of people I would make elite.
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Post by: JB Lee on August 10, 2007, 01:51:38 AM
[quote name=\'littlefly1\' post=\'371944\' date=\'Aug 10 2007, 01:19 AM\']No the thing is..If an elite hacked someone then i would ban him from the site so he isnt elite anymore. If the guy doesnt have proof than thats his fault. Also I wouldnt of picked someone that wasnt mature enough and hacked people..

Alot of the elites become elite in like 4 months or less..I became elite after a year of being a member and over 60 transactions. Do you really think im going to scam anyone? Thats the type of person that I would make elite for TTG. but alot of elites that became elite on TTG has not been what i have been through before being elite, if anyone. Matter of fact, no one..Not to mention having over 1000 posts before becoming elite. I see elites now that arn't over 600..

If i were owner, thats the type of person that would become elite, because I know that he isnt here to scam. Not after being active and loyal for over a year, 60+ tranactions and 1000+ posts. Who in their right mind would scam after waiting that long and being that loyal when becoming elite. So yes those are the type of people I would make elite.[/quote]

i am extremely happy with your response /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

Everlasting Death, an elite of TTG as i am sure you know, was a tech admin of my site RuneCore. He hacked me and ADMITTED to it. Proof enough? He wasn't even de-elited...

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also, it took me 7 months to become an elite on ttg, i had over 1800 posts, and well over 200 transactions most of which being MM's that totaled to over 700m MMed. Madhatter has been here even longer than me, has over 1k posts, and has MMed somewhere around, i would say, 200m (guessing). So i consider myself and madhatter trusted. The only reason me and him are causing so much controversy is because of our history with certain elites (reazee, everlasting death, aragost), who in turn, spread around that they dont like us and convince people to vote against us. (an example being where God of War actually stated that he was voting no for me because he was better friends with reazee...which reazee in turn said was a joke -.-)

If it wasnt for Pureblood and Allanon, i wouldnt have even had a chance at winning, and almost didnt except Allanon contacted RSGOD and had him vote for me, and i've never even talked to RSGOD before...
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Post by: Allanon on August 10, 2007, 10:00:40 AM
Actually Littlefly, a bunch of the older elites have less posts than a bunch of the newer ones.  They may have been around longer but many of them took long breaks of activity and are just now returning to the site (seriously it's like half the elites just now got back within the last month or so).  And yea, we usually try to get those kind of people, but the situation is exactly like JBLee said.
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Post by: MadHatter on August 10, 2007, 01:19:12 PM
uhhh ....yeah what Jblee said


id give you +rep for that if we had rep here but we dont /tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' />
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Post by: JB Lee on August 10, 2007, 01:20:19 PM
[quote name=\'Allanon\' post=\'372101\' date=\'Aug 10 2007, 10:00 AM\']Actually Littlefly, a bunch of the older elites have less posts than a bunch of the newer ones.  They may have been around longer but many of them took long breaks of activity and are just now returning to the site (seriously it's like half the elites just now got back within the last month or so).  And yea, we usually try to get those kind of people, but the situation is exactly like JBLee said.[/quote]

yeh, call me a no-lifer...but ive been on just about every day since i joined except for when i took 2 weeks off to get runecore going.
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Post by: littlefly1 on August 10, 2007, 01:45:47 PM
ok i see, I didn't relize it was more like that today. I remember when i joined, it was easier to get in and also I remember the thing that was going on at rs2mm. lol. Things have changed but..still why all the fighting? Keep it all to your selves. lol. I remember when Pro Edge scammed me, but i dropped it and now i guess im friends with him again with no conflict.
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Post by: GOD OF WAR on August 12, 2007, 12:23:55 AM
i woulda voted yes... but ya i was moving when his poll was goin on... and i wasnt here to vote.... if this changes anything... wchich i dont think it does....
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Post by: greazee on August 12, 2007, 05:39:29 PM
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Everlasting Death, an elite of TTG as i am sure you know, was a tech admin of my site RuneCore. He hacked me and ADMITTED to it. Proof enough? He wasn't even de-elited...

you also hacked his site and you werent de elited...


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So i consider myself and madhatter trusted. The only reason me and him are causing so much controversy is because of our history with certain elites (reazee, everlasting death, aragost), who in turn, spread around that they dont like us and convince people to vote against us. (an example being where God of War actually stated that he was voting no for me because he was better friends with reazee...which reazee in turn said was a joke -.-)

i cant speak for everlasting death or aragost but I had a reason to tell people not to vote for you, and its not like i just said dont vote for jblee because i dont like him I told people what you did as well as gave proof to what you did. I never tried to convince anyone to vote against madhatter I just simply voted no and gave my reason.

the whole god of war thing is completely stupid, you made a post saying God of War would probly vote no because he knows me better and he replied saying afraid so mate, if you want to see the message history of me telling him what you did I have it right now.

this whole your the victim thing is getting old, you act like you did nothing and that I just dont like you so im getting it to be some sort of popularity contest. If you dont remember you are the one that started this crap both times and you have given me plenty of reasons not to vote for you and if allanon had not been your friend im sure my reasons would have been enough to get you would have been banned.
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Post by: JB Lee on August 12, 2007, 05:58:48 PM
allanon didnt even know me that well when all this started...

and all i said was "aha, theres proof its a popularity contest" when god of war admitted to what i had been claiming. (that he would vote no because he liked reazee more)

i hacked TonTalk in RETALIATION to Everlasting Death hacking, i really didnt think it was Aragosts site since he hadnt been on once since i had started going...i thought it was as much Aragost's site as ScubaSquad was Tom's...then i saw how he ranked posters by LotRo's standards and realized it but it wasnt enough to make me stop hacking it because the only active members were you (reazee), scott, babychika, and Everlasting Death...which all hated my guts...

and as you even said, i hacked "his" site...referring to Everlasting Death not RuneCore.........................
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Post by: greazee on August 12, 2007, 06:05:16 PM
[quote name=\'JBLee / Jason\' post=\'373551\' date=\'Aug 12 2007, 05:58 PM\']allanon didnt even know me that well when all this started...

and all i said was "aha, theres proof its a popularity contest" when god of war admitted to what i had been claiming. (that he would vote no because he liked reazee more)

i hacked TonTalk in RETALIATION to Everlasting Death hacking, i really didnt think it was Aragosts site since he hadnt been on once since i had started going...i thought it was as much Aragost's site as ScubaSquad was Tom's...then i saw how he ranked posters by LotRo's standards and realized it but it wasnt enough to make me stop hacking it because the only active members were you (reazee), scott, babychika, and Everlasting Death...which all hated my guts...

and as you even said, i hacked "his" site...referring to Everlasting Death not RuneCore.........................[/quote]
allanon did know you when it all started, thats why he wanted us to get along. yeah i mixed up aragost and ED, but the point is you are saying the person should be de elited for hacking a site when you yourself did the same thing, except when you did it you actually messed with stuff, changed peoples passwords, deleted all the posts. ED didnt do anything permanent to your site.
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Post by: JB Lee on August 12, 2007, 06:27:55 PM
[quote name=\'Reazee\' post=\'373553\' date=\'Aug 12 2007, 06:05 PM\']allanon did know you when it all started, thats why he wanted us to get along. yeah i mixed up aragost and ED, but the point is you are saying the person should be de elited for hacking a site when you yourself did the same thing, except when you did it you actually messed with stuff, changed peoples passwords, deleted all the posts. ED didnt do anything permanent to your site.[/quote]

he would have if I didnt take a back-up...

its not my fault Aragost and ED dont talk back-up's of their site...

and you are missing the point...if some1 hacks my site, and doesnt get banned, that means i wont get banned if i do it to them...so why not do it...revenge = Oh, so sweet
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Post by: greazee on August 12, 2007, 07:13:28 PM
[quote name=\'JBLee / Jason\' post=\'373570\' date=\'Aug 12 2007, 06:27 PM\']he would have if I didnt take a back-up...

its not my fault Aragost and ED dont talk back-up's of their site...

and you are missing the point...if some1 hacks my site, and doesnt get banned, that means i wont get banned if i do it to them...so why not do it...revenge = Oh, so sweet[/quote]

actually you just kinda made my point, they did it and didnt get in trouble and you were complaining about it even though you did the same thing...
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Post by: JB Lee on August 12, 2007, 08:30:04 PM
[quote name=\'Reazee\' post=\'373610\' date=\'Aug 12 2007, 07:13 PM\']actually you just kinda made my point, they did it and didnt get in trouble and you were complaining about it even though you did the same thing...[/quote]

yeh, if ED had gotten de-elited...i wouldnt have done it...and i wouldn't have complained...

but he didn't get de-elited...which means i can do it back and not have to worry about getting de-elited myself...

and seeing as mine was retaliation, iot still gives me the right to complain about it...if i had done it first and they had retaliated...it would give them the right
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Post by: bloodogre on August 12, 2007, 08:53:21 PM
yes but he is trying to say u should stop complaining
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Post by: greazee on August 13, 2007, 11:19:02 AM
[quote name=\'JBLee / Jason\' post=\'373679\' date=\'Aug 12 2007, 08:30 PM\']yeh, if ED had gotten de-elited...i wouldnt have done it...and i wouldn't have complained...

but he didn't get de-elited...which means i can do it back and not have to worry about getting de-elited myself...

and seeing as mine was retaliation, iot still gives me the right to complain about it...if i had done it first and they had retaliated...it would give them the right[/quote]

that would be true if it were EDs site you hacked... but it was aragosts
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Post by: Allanon on August 13, 2007, 12:48:59 PM
[quote name=\'Reazee\' post=\'373971\' date=\'Aug 13 2007, 12:19 PM\']that would be true if it were EDs site you hacked... but it was aragosts[/quote]


 He apologized to Aragost, and got it all sorted out.
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Post by: greazee on August 13, 2007, 12:53:49 PM
[quote name=\'Allanon\' post=\'374086\' date=\'Aug 13 2007, 12:48 PM\']He apologized to Aragost, and got it all sorted out.[/quote]

that doesnt mean he didnt do it though and the damage was done, which is why im saying he shouldnt be complaining that runecore was hacked when he did the same thing to a different site except he did damage. EDs thing was pretty much harmless
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Post by: JB Lee on August 13, 2007, 01:13:08 PM
as i said before, i didnt really think it was aragosts site...

like if i had hacked ScubaSquad....that would have been hacking Tom's site, but it would have been done to get back at Allanon...

thats what i thought it was...didnt know aragost really used it or did anything...he hadnt been on once since i had ever been there...didnt know he was on vacation