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General Category => Hardware => Topic started by: bLaCk0uT on September 08, 2008, 09:42:59 PM

Title: RAM
Post by: bLaCk0uT on September 08, 2008, 09:42:59 PM

My computer is a 2000 stock Dell.
I'm not sure what model it is because:
a] I'm retarded
b] I'm retarded

Its soo freaking slow.
I don't feel like buying a whole new computer, so I was just thinking I could add some RAM and get a new video card.

This website (http://www.crucial.com) says I can't.

Apparently my computer is too old and NOBODY sells RAM that's compatible for it.
Plus I don't think I have enough slots to add any more..

Is there ANYTHING I can do?

I would really like to avoid buying a new motherboard and stripping the computer but i guess if it's cheaper than buying a new computer, I'll settle.

If there's nothing I can do, should I stick with building a new desktop, or should I move to a gaming laptop?

Title: RAM
Post by: jony on September 09, 2008, 05:15:26 PM

[quote name=\'bLaCk0uT\' post=\'442239\' date=\'Sep 8 2008, 10:09 PM\']If there's nothing I can do, should I stick with building a new desktop, or should I move to a gaming laptop?[/quote]

Dont wast your money on a good gaming comp its not worth it... Trust me i did the same thing. Not worth it. i spent about 3,000$ of money on one...

Go to NewEgg.com and you can build a good comp there for under 1,000$

Title: RAM
Post by: bLaCk0uT on September 09, 2008, 05:26:47 PM

Well, I was thinking about getting a laptop.  I really think it would be pretty nice to have because I hate being stuck in my room...
Are there any good laptops that would be able to run at least WoW really well?

Title: RAM
Post by: JB Lee on September 09, 2008, 05:29:44 PM

WoW can run on a monitor ducktaped to a paperclip...

Seriously, WoW is less resource intensive than MS Paint. You could spend $300 on a laptop from 1998 and run WoW without a problem.

Title: RAM
Post by: bLaCk0uT on September 09, 2008, 05:41:11 PM

I wouldn't be so sure...I tried running it on my 2000 Desktop and I lagged horribly when I got into Ironforge..  Couldn't even move in there.

I've sorta dropped the idea of upgrading this old piece of [censored], and I think I'm just going to save up and get a pretty decent $800-$1200 laptop.  

Any suggestions on it?

If you can tell me how I could get more RAM on my desktop, I would still appreciate it.

Okay.  Scratch that.  I'm going to build a computer.  But since I'm doing a desktop, I only want to spend about $800 max.   I've already gotten a bit of a plan.

Processor and MoBo- $205
Video card- $175
Monitor- $140
Power Supply- $50
RAM- $50
Hard Drive- $35
Case- $40

I'm pretty much horrible at piecing hardware together, so if anyone can let me know what a good build would be for that price range, I would be amazingly grateful.

Title: RAM
Post by: jony on September 09, 2008, 09:23:18 PM

Well if your looking for a good gaming laptop to play more than WoW

This is the computer for you

http://www.alienware.com/products/aurora-d...ode=SKU-DEFAULT (http://\"http://www.alienware.com/products/aurora-desktop.aspx?SysCode=PC-AURORA-R5&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT\")

And if you looking to save money and only play WoW than go to a local Bestbuy and buy a normal Desktop.

And Btw and to be honest, laptops are a piece of junk... I have one and i am really working towards enough money for a desktop.

Also finding RAM for only 50dalloars might get you 1 MB so good luck with that /tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' />

Title: RAM
Post by: bLaCk0uT on September 09, 2008, 10:06:22 PM

Hmm.  I didn't even think about that.  Well I found a site that offers 4GB for about $70.  That should work.

Okay.  I've been looking around and I think I found some stuff.  You can go ahead and close this if you see it Jason.

Title: RAM
Post by: JB Lee on September 10, 2008, 12:29:33 AM

If you are using 4GB of RAM, then you need to make sure you are using a 64bit OS. 32bit OS's are only compatible with 3GB of RAM or less. You also need to make sure your motherboard has enough slots for the RAM sticks. If your mobo only has 2 slots, then you need to go with 2x2GB sticks, if it has 4 slots, I would still recommend 2x2GB sticks incase you may want to upgrade at a later date, however 4x1GB sticks might be a cheaper option.

Another thing to consider is case and GPU compatibility. Some GPU (Video Cards) will not be able to fit in some smaller cases, this is why, as far as cases go, cheaper is not always the best way to go. I am assuming you will either be going with a GeForce 8800 or 9600. I would recommend an 8800, but again, make sure it will fit in the case you get.

Also, make sure your Mobo and CPU are compatible, don't get a AMD Mobo and an Intel chip, and if you are going fully AMD, don't get a AM2 and a quadcore, etc.

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Oh, and I'm not a mod anymore, so I couldn't close it even if I wanted to.

Title: RAM
Post by: JB Lee on September 10, 2008, 12:38:09 AM

Oh, and don't get an Alienware. They are insanely expensive for what they offer, you can build the same thing they have for half the price.

Title: RAM
Post by: jony on September 10, 2008, 08:03:07 AM

[quote name=\'JB Lee\' post=\'442330\' date=\'Sep 10 2008, 12:05 AM\']Oh, and don't get an Alienware. They are insanely expensive for what they offer, you can build the same thing they have for half the price.[/quote]

=D

Title: RAM
Post by: bLaCk0uT on September 10, 2008, 08:52:31 PM

Ah.  I didnt even notice JB

Well I got a kinda sorta plan.

Only problem is I'm breaking my budget and I'm not even sure that it's all gonna work.  Here's the specs:

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115017 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017\")


MoBo:
Intel BOXDG33BUC LGA 775 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813121304 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121304\")


RAM:
Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820134641 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134641\")


HDD:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0%20st3250410AS (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262&Tpk=seagate%20barracuda%207200.10%20st3250410AS\")


GFX:
EVGA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130318 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318\")


Disk Drive:
Sony NEC Optiarc Black 15x DVD Rom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827101131 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131\")



Power:
HIPER Type M HPU-4M730-SS 730W ATX 12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817128008 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817128008\")


Case:
COOLER MASTER Elite RC-330-KKR1 Black ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119118 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119118\")


Monitor:
Hanns-G HW-191DPB Black 19"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...s-G%20HW-191DPB (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005&Tpk=Hanns-G%20HW-191DPB\")

(just updated the GFX Card)

Is it decent?

Title: RAM
Post by: JB Lee on September 10, 2008, 09:11:47 PM

No, BAD blackout!

Do not get an ATI, get an Nvidia. You want an EVGA GeForce 8800, end of story. The CPU is great, I have one in one of my computers. HDD is ok, but I don't really like Seagate. I am a big fan of Cooler Master, and it will definitely fit any Graphics card you can find. You might consider getting two of those DVD drives.

Don't forget to get an OS. I recommend Windows Vista Home Premium.

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EVGA GeForce 8800 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130318 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318\")

Western Digital 250gb HDD (instead of your Seagate) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136161 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136161\")

Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116469 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116469\")

NOTE: With the above version of Vista, you will only be able to take advantage of 3GB of RAM. You can still install 4GB like you want, but it will only read 3GB of it. If you want to use all of your RAM, then get the 64bit version: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116205 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116205\"). It costs more, but it is worth the extra $100 in my opinion.

Title: RAM
Post by: bLaCk0uT on September 10, 2008, 09:17:41 PM

What difference is it gonna make if I throw another 20 bucks at a different HDD?
I really dont want to break $1k, and I'm at $977 with the new GFX card.

Is there a 64bit version of XP?
I hate Vista.

(BTW, what happened to Vent?)

Title: RAM
Post by: JB Lee on September 10, 2008, 11:00:35 PM

Vista is better than XP, the only reason people don't like it is because it creates a lot of bugs when used with a sub-par system (and most systems that were around in the XP days are not up to the standard of today). The system you are building will be far from sub-par, and thus Vista is the best option.

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I canceled the Ventrillo because I don't feel like paying money for a server that is only used by myself, and the occasional appearance of Paco and Pureblood.

Title: RAM
Post by: bLaCk0uT on September 10, 2008, 11:13:10 PM

Okay...I have a friend who is telling me that he knows a guy that works for a computer company and gets a discount on everything, so I'm gonna see if I can get hooked up.

But yeah, thanks for the help.  If anyone else has any suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated.

Title: RAM
Post by: sandra on September 17, 2008, 12:01:30 AM

RAM stands for Random Access Memory. It is a type of computer data storage. The word RAM is mostly associated with volatile types of memory, where the information is lost after the power is switched off.
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Title: RAM
Post by: Stop Reading My Name on September 27, 2008, 07:49:45 PM

if you end up going with that case you are going to have two PSUs, one crappy one and one good one. I suggest http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119115 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115\") (because it's full steel) or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119104 (http://\"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119104\") (because it's a case)

i'ma edit this later (maybe) with other things that have to do with stuff.

also, those bots make me [color=\"red\"]rage[/color].

Title: RAM
Post by: mikerandells on September 30, 2008, 06:59:40 PM

I am using P4 system,how much GB RAM will supports to m y system.
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Title: RAM
Post by: guestolo on September 30, 2008, 10:25:34 PM

[quote name=\'mikerandells\' post=\'443892\' date=\'Sep 30 2008, 05:33 PM\']I am using P4 system,how much GB RAM will supports to m y system.
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That really depends on your motherboard, do you know your Motherboard model
If not, what about the Exact make/model of your computer?

Title: RAM
Post by: nath on November 07, 2008, 02:36:56 PM

Hi,
         ya, if you buying new motherboard,processor and RAM it's cheaper than the buying new PC.