Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 06, 2008, 01:48:14 PM
[color=\"#800080\"]So, as most of you have read, Account Sales and I had a bit of a bad trade. Although, this was not intentional. Here's a summary of what happened:
[/color][/color]
- I offered him a level 86 (perm muted) with 92 wc for $5 and a one month membership pin. I did not specify whether I wanted a PBP pin or an SMS pin.
- He agreed to the deal, and we spoke on msn. I went first.
- He wanted to get a PBP pin, because it's cheaper, but he hadn't ever bought a pin via phone before. (Nor have I).
- He told me to go to the subscription page and get the number for him to phone (he was phoning from America so I said I was subscribing from the U.S. on the subscription page).
- I gave him the number, he phoned it, but after a few rings the phone just hung up.
- He was a little suspicious of this, so he decided to check his phone bill. The bill came to $9.99, when Jagex only charges $7.99 for this type of transaction.
- He thought I had given him a number that charges him an amount, (so he basically thought i was scamming him) and he decided to take my account from me without giving me the pin or the $5.00, claiming he was someone else who had used a keylogger to use Account Sales MSN to scam me.
- I found all the proof I could that the person I was speaking to really was Account Sales, and I found all the proof I could that he scammed me.
- I then posted about this in Trader Feedback, and he then admitted to scamming me, but only because he thought I was scamming him. He said he'd keep the account until I found legitimate reasons as to why he was overcharged.
- I found some possible reasons off of the RuneScape forums, but they didn't seem to fit the bill.
- I found a similar case where a mother of two posted a blog entry about two charges appearing in her children's cellphone contracts, both of these charges were $9.99. They were monthly charges, and her cellphone company said to disable some features and that the charge would go away, but it didn't, and I noticed that on her bill, the company charging her the $9 was the famed Surfpin (which is the company that handles the SMS and PBP membership subscriptions on runescape).
- Account Sales is now getting me a membership pin. (I'm not too sure if the $5.00 is still coming though) [color=\"#0000ff\"]You hear that? Account Sales is still getting me a Pin! But he needs to buy it first, so please, add him on MSN if you're selling! (He is buying two pins)[/color]
I fear that this situation might occur again on TheTechGuide, and I wish for people to be better equipped for handling this occurence in the future, just to avoid anymore misunderstandings. The reason why this is such a bad situation, is that both Account Sales and I have lost some of the trust that you readers have invested in us. (We would like to earn this back).
Also, I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd take the time to complete the poll. And Account Sales, no voting for yourself
/tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' /> I won't vote for me.Thank you very much for reading,
Pyro Raccoon
[color=\"#0000ff\"]P.S. If anyone feels that this belongs in the Trader Feedback section, then I will gladly let it be moved, although, I feel it has a stronger meaning in the General Discussion section.[/color]
[/color]
And for those of you who have A.D.D. and are wondering what the account I offered is like, take a look (and I forgot to tell Account Sales, the account already has every prayer book complete with pages, all you need to do is talk to the guy at the lighthouse to get them back):
(http://i38.tinypic.com/whd0t2.png)
Post by: Account Sales on December 06, 2008, 02:38:48 PM
Post by: ___ on December 07, 2008, 02:54:26 PM
Post by: greazee on December 07, 2008, 10:50:59 PM
Post by: jony on December 07, 2008, 11:17:27 PM
Yeah its Reazee, the guy who lifes off the money he scammes /wave
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 08, 2008, 12:58:21 AM
You didn't read properly. I never scammed, all I did was give him the phone number for surfpin that was on the official runescape billing page, and he got overcharged.
I'm gonna quote my friend Samuel here:
(http://i37.tinypic.com/i3t6r8.jpg)
Post by: greazee on December 08, 2008, 11:00:38 AM
I'm gonna quote my friend Samuel here:
(http://i37.tinypic.com/i3t6r8.jpg)[/quote]
I am fairly certain that he is speaking of mother [censored]ing snakes on mother [censored]ing planes.
I guess what they say is true, scammers can't read lips.
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 08, 2008, 12:13:58 PM
Post by: greazee on December 08, 2008, 03:26:26 PM
Calm down, I have no interests in your silly disputes. Basically it goes like this: you are a scammer because God spoke to me and told me so. Just like he did with the other guy you are talking about in your poll, SRMN, Matthew and Alldemfatties... oh and by god I mean that Albanian Warlord guy, he is my informant on matters like these.
Post by: JB Lee on December 08, 2008, 03:38:38 PM
*boom*
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 08, 2008, 04:22:41 PM
/mad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':angry:\' /> I'm not a scammer. There is no proof I'm a scammer. Come to think of it Account Sales said he was overcharged, but he didn't actually PROVE it...
Post by: greazee on December 08, 2008, 04:56:49 PM
/mad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':angry:\' /> I'm not a scammer. There is no proof I'm a scammer. Come to think of it Account Sales said he was overcharged, but he didn't actually PROVE it...[/quote]ZOMG DO YOU USE ALL CAPS ON A BAD DAY?!?! OR JUST MORE FROWNY FACES!?
Post by: Account Sales on December 08, 2008, 05:14:33 PM
Post by: JB Lee on December 08, 2008, 05:26:53 PM
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 09, 2008, 01:30:02 AM
Post by: zach k on December 09, 2008, 05:16:55 AM
keep flaming you'll reach your 3k post count.
Post by: greazee on December 09, 2008, 03:56:22 PM
[quote name=\'zach k\' post=\'449412\' date=\'Dec 9 2008, 04:16 AM\']keep flaming you'll reach your 3k post count.[/quote]
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/458882226_d3832ebe1b.jpg)
OOOOOOOHHHH BURN!
Oh and also to zach k: VOUCH
Post by: Stop Reading My Name on December 09, 2008, 03:58:05 PM
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 09, 2008, 04:19:54 PM
Well eff that. I'm just gonna keep quiet. Everything is a [censored]ing scam to you people. Everything. NONE of you read threads properly. Not one. One person just points and the rest follow. You're all useless. I know I'm not a scammer. As long as I know I'm not a scammer, I don't care what any of you say. For [censored]'s sakes.
Post by: Stop Reading My Name on December 09, 2008, 05:22:12 PM
Well eff that. I'm just gonna keep quiet. Everything is a [censored]ing scam to you people. Everything. NONE of you read threads properly. Not one. One person just points and the rest follow. You're all useless. I know I'm not a scammer. As long as I know I'm not a scammer, I don't care what any of you say. For [censored]'s sakes.[/quote]
for the record I didn't even read the thread.
Post by: JB Lee on December 09, 2008, 06:59:31 PM
I don't think anyone did, haha.
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 09, 2008, 07:03:07 PM
Read what thread?
Post by: greazee on December 09, 2008, 07:03:37 PM
Post by: JB Lee on December 09, 2008, 07:04:58 PM
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 09, 2008, 07:08:11 PM
I didn't know you were seven....
Hillarys back BAYBAY YEAH!!
Post by: JB Lee on December 09, 2008, 07:44:21 PM
It was daytime!
The daytime...of the night.
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 09, 2008, 07:55:59 PM
It was daytime!
The daytime...of the night.[/quote]
I said NO CHEESE!
Post by: MadHatter on December 09, 2008, 10:03:34 PM
Post by: Mr K on December 10, 2008, 01:17:01 AM
I've never done a real trade with Pyro Raccoon, but, I know he's a good guy and he's not going to scam anyone. GTFO please.
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 10, 2008, 03:27:05 AM
I've never done a real trade with Pyro Raccoon, but, I know he's a good guy and he's not going to scam anyone. GTFO please.[/quote]
Thank you! The only sensible person on the forums! Vouch!
Post by: Account Sales on December 10, 2008, 06:15:17 AM
I've never done a real trade with Pyro Raccoon, but, I know he's a good guy and he's not going to scam anyone. GTFO please.[/quote]
I agree Pyro Mr K FTW!
Post by: JB Lee on December 10, 2008, 09:38:23 AM
You scammed my soul shard!
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 10, 2008, 03:17:19 PM
An intellect rivaled only by garden tools.
Post by: JB Lee on December 10, 2008, 04:44:39 PM
[censored] [censored] [censored]ing damnit cunt [censored] [censored] damn [censored] [censored] scammer mc[censored] [censored]ty scamming my soul shard!
Post by: Account Sales on December 10, 2008, 04:46:54 PM
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 10, 2008, 05:22:52 PM
OWNED BY CENSOR
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2lbhv1u.jpg)
For the record: I haven't scammed any items. I haven't even bought anything off any of you guys yet. So HA
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 10, 2008, 07:01:59 PM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2lbhv1u.jpg)
For the record: I haven't scammed any items. I haven't even bought anything off any of you guys yet. So HA[/quote]
YOU CUNTRAG YOU KICKED MY GODDAMN MOTHER[censored]ING SCRAWNY ASS MUTHA[censored]IN DAWG YOU STUPID PIECE OF [censored]!!!
Post by: MadHatter on December 10, 2008, 08:43:15 PM
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 11, 2008, 12:24:42 AM
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 01:05:21 AM
YOU [censored]ING SCAMMED MY SOUL SHARD!
Post by: greazee on December 11, 2008, 01:33:14 AM
You should have thought about this BEFORE you scammed. Now you have to deal with your thread being ruined.
Post by: Small Shoe Magoo on December 11, 2008, 01:37:45 AM
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 01:38:50 AM
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 11, 2008, 10:13:15 AM
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 10:48:23 AM
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 11, 2008, 11:51:39 AM
Like I said, you have an intellect rivaled only by garden tools. Idiot.
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 12:11:22 PM
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 11, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Just for the record, I used to think you were awesome, and I used to vouch for you. You obviously don't remember much about me though, but hey, it's okay, you're losing out, making yourself look like a retard and damaging your own reputation. As long as you're happy with what you're doing to yourself, I'm happy, but honestly, everything you say and do affects everybody around you. Think wisely.
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 04:28:45 PM
Send 1 million dollars in cash to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC, please include a ticking clock and a bag of sugar and write the words "From Osama" on the side.
I'll be...expecting...it.
Mwuahahahahaha.
I WANT MY [censored]ING SOUL SHARD, [censored]ing scammer...
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 11, 2008, 05:49:19 PM
Post by: greazee on December 11, 2008, 07:59:16 PM
OH MY GOD. YOU > SCAMMER
Post by: Allanon on December 11, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
This kind of behavior can not be tolerated, scammers must be dealt with, and morale must be kept at a level which is acceptable to the people who accept acceptances!
Though right now, no action will be taken, I never thought you would turn out to be the scammer you have become... CHRISTMAS IS CANCELED THIS YEAR UNLESS PYRO STOPS HIS SCAMMING WAYS!
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 08:18:25 PM
(http://www.swollenpickles.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/outoforder.jpg)
Post by: greazee on December 11, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
(http://www.swollenpickles.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/outoforder.jpg)[/quote]
I'll get the plunger :/
Post by: Account Sales on December 11, 2008, 09:13:01 PM
/biggrin.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':D\' />.
Post by: MadHatter on December 11, 2008, 09:29:42 PM
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 09:34:33 PM
Post by: Mr K on December 11, 2008, 10:57:59 PM
JB stop being an idiot. It's not funny. K?
GTFO.
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 11:04:30 PM
GLOBAL THERMO-FANTASTIC ONSLAUGHT
Post by: Mr K on December 11, 2008, 11:22:04 PM
Post by: JB Lee on December 11, 2008, 11:38:57 PM
Each time that I have been privileged to visit Tulane, I have come away newly impressed with the intense application of the student body to the great issues of our time, and I am pleased tonight to observe that your interest hasn't changed one bit.
As we came into the building tonight, I passed a student who looked up from his book and said, "A journey of a thousand miles begins but with a single step." To indicate my interest in him, I asked, "Are you trying to figure out how to get your goal in life?" He said, "No, I am trying to figure out how to get to the Super Dome in September." [Laughter] Well, I don't think there is any doubt in my mind that all of you will get to the Super Dome. Of course, I hope it is to see the Green Wave [Tulane University] have their very best season on the gridiron. I have sort of a feeling that you wouldn't mind making this another year in which you put the Tigers [Louisiana State University] in your tank.
When I had the privilege of speaking here in 1968 at your "Directions '68" forum, I had no idea that my own career and our entire Nation would move so soon in another direction. And I say again, I am extremely proud to be invited back.
I am impressed, as I undoubtedly said before -- but I would reiterate it tonight -- by Tulane's unique distinction as the only American university to be converted from State sponsorship to private status. And I am also impressed by the Tulane graduates who serve in the United States Congress: Bennett Johnston, Lindy Boggs, Dave Treen.
Eddie Hebert, when I asked him the question whether he was or not, and he said he got a special degree: Dropout '28. [Laughter]
But I think the fact that you have these three outstanding graduates testifies to the academic excellence and the inspiration of this historic university, rooted in the past with its eyes on the future.
Just as Tulane has made a great transition from the past to the future, so has New Orleans, the legendary city that has made such a unique contribution to our great America. New Orleans is more, as I see it, than weathered bricks and cast-iron balconies. It is a state of mind, a melting pot that represents the very, very best of America's evolution, an example of retention of a very special culture in a progressive environment of modern change.
On January 8, 1815, a monumental American victory was achieved here -- the Battle of New Orleans. Louisiana had been a State for less than three years, but outnumbered Americans innovated, outnumbered Americans used the tactics of the frontier to defeat a veteran British force trained in the strategy of the Napoleonic wars.
We as a nation had suffered humiliation and a measure of defeat in the War of 1812. Our National Capital in Washington had been captured and burned. So, the illustrious victory in the Battle of New Orleans was a powerful restorative to our national pride.
Yet, the victory at New Orleans actually took place two weeks after the signing of the armistice in Europe. Thousands died although a peace had been negotiated. The combatants had not gotten the word. Yet, the epic struggle nevertheless restored America's pride.
Today, America can regain the sense of pride that existed before Vietnam. But it cannot be achieved by refighting a war that is finished as far as America is concerned. As I see it, the time has come to look forward to an agenda for the future, to unify, to bind up the Nation's wounds, and to restore its health and its optimistic self-confidence.
In New Orleans, a great battle was fought after a war was over. In New Orleans tonight, we can begin a great national reconciliation. The first engagement must be with the problems of today, but just as importantly, the problems of the future. That is why I think it is so appropriate that I find myself tonight at a university which addresses itself to preparing young people for the challenge of tomorrow.
I ask that we stop refighting the battles and the recriminations of the past. I ask that we look now at what is right with America, at our possibilities and our potentialities for change and growth and achievement and sharing. I ask that we accept the responsibilities of leadership as a good neighbor to all peoples and the enemy of none. I ask that we strive to become, in the finest American tradition, something more tomorrow than we are today.
Instead of my addressing the image of America, I prefer to consider the reality of America. It is true that we have launched our Bicentennial celebration without having achieved human perfection, but we have attained a very remarkable self-governed society that possesses the flexibility and the dynamism to grow and undertake an entirely new agenda, an agenda for America's third century.
So, I ask you to join me in helping to write that agenda. I am as determined as a President can be to seek national rediscovery of the belief in ourselves that characterized the most creative periods in our Nation's history. The greatest challenge of creativity, as I see it, lies ahead.
We, of course, are saddened indeed by the events in Indochina. But these events, tragic as they are, portend neither the end of the world nor of America's leadership in the world.
Let me put it this way, if I might. Some tend to feel that if we do not succeed in everything everywhere, then we have succeeded in nothing anywhere. I reject categorically such polarized thinking. We can and we should help others to help themselves. But the fate of responsible men and women everywhere, in the final decision, rests in their own hands, not in ours.
America's future depends upon Americans -- especially your generation, which is now equipping itself to assume the challenges of the future, to help write the agenda for America.
Earlier today, in this great community, I spoke about the need to maintain our defenses. Tonight, I would like to talk about another kind of strength, the true source of American power that transcends all of the deterrent powers for peace of our Armed Forces. I am speaking here of our belief in ourselves and our belief in our Nation.
Abraham Lincoln asked, in his own words, and I quote, "What constitutes the bulwark of our own liberty and independence?" And he answered, "It is not our frowning battlements or bristling seacoasts, our Army or our Navy. Our defense is in the spirit which prized liberty as the heritage of all men, in all lands everywhere."
It is in this spirit that we must now move beyond the discords of the past decade. It is in this spirit that I ask you to join me in writing an agenda for the future.
I welcome your invitation particularly tonight, because I know it is at Tulane and other centers of thought throughout our great country that much consideration is being given to the kind of future Americans want and, just as importantly, will work for. Each of you are preparing yourselves for the future, and I am deeply interested in your preparations and your opinions and your goals. However, tonight, with your indulgence, let me share with you my own views.
I envision a creative program that goes as far as our courage and our capacities can take us, both at home and abroad. My goal is for a cooperative world at peace, using its resources to build, not to destroy.
As President, I am determined to offer leadership to overcome our current economic problems. My goal is for jobs for all who want to work and economic opportunity for all who want to achieve.
I am determined to seek self-sufficiency in energy as an urgent national priority. My goal is to make America independent of foreign energy sources by 1985.
Of course, I will pursue interdependence with other nations and a reformed international economic system. My goal is for a world in which consuming and producing nations achieve a working balance.
I will address the humanitarian issues of hunger and famine, of health and of healing. My goal is to achieve -- or to assure basic needs and an effective system to achieve this result.
I recognize the need for technology that enriches life while preserving our natural environment. My goal is to stimulate productivity, but use technology to redeem, not to destroy our environment.
I will strive for new cooperation rather than conflict in the peaceful exploration of our oceans and our space. My goal is to use resources for peaceful progress rather than war and destruction.
Let America symbolize humanity's struggle to conquer nature and master technology. The time has now come for our Government to facilitate the individual's control over his or her future -- and of the future of America.
But the future requires more than Americans congratulating themselves on how much we know and how many products that we can produce. It requires new knowledge to meet new problems. We must not only be motivated to build a better America, we must know how to do it.
If we really want a humane America that will, for instance, contribute to the alleviation of the world's hunger, we must realize that good intentions do not feed people. Some problems, as anyone who served in the Congress knows, are complex. There arc no easy answers. Willpower alone does not grow food.
We thought, in a well-intentioned past, that we could export our technology lock, stock, and barrel to developing nations. We did it with the best of intentions. But we are now learning that a strain of rice that grows in one place will not grow in another; that factories that produce at 100 percent in one nation produce less than half as much in a society where temperaments and work habits are somewhat different.
Yet, the world economy has become interdependent. Not only food technology but money management, natural resources and energy, research and development -- all kinds of this group require an organized world society that makes the maximum effective use of the world's resources.
I want to tell the world: Let's grow food together, but let's also learn more about nutrition, about weather forecasting, about irrigation, about the many other specialties involved in helping people to help themselves.
We must learn more about people, about the development of communities, architecture, engineering, education, motivation, productivity, public health and medicine, arts and sciences, political, legal, and social organization. All of these specialities and many, many more are required if young people like you are to help this Nation develop an agenda for our future -- your future, our country's future.
I challenge, for example, the medical students in this audience to put on their agenda the achievement of a cure for cancer. I challenge the engineers in this audience to devise new techniques for developing cheap, clean, and plentiful energy, and as a byproduct, to control floods. I challenge the law students in this audience to find ways to speed the administration of equal justice and make good citizens out of convicted criminals. I challenge education, those of you as education majors, to do real teaching for real life. I challenge the arts majors in this audience to compose the great American symphony, to write the great American novel, and to enrich and inspire our daily lives.
America's leadership is essential. America's resources are vast. America's opportunities are unprecedented.
As we strive together to prefect a new agenda, I put high on the list of important points the maintenance of alliances and partnerships with other people and other nations. These do provide a basis of shared values, even as we stand up with determination for what we believe. This, of course, requires a continuing commitment to peace and a determination to use our good offices wherever possible to promote better relations between nations of this world.
The new agenda, that which is developed by you and by us, must place a high priority on the need to stop the spread of nuclear weapons and to work for the mutual reduction in strategic arms and control of other weapons. And I must say, parenthetically, the successful negotiations at Vladivostok, in my opinion, are just a beginning.
Your generation of Americans is uniquely endowed by history to give new meaning to the pride and spirit of America. The magnetism of an American society, confident of its own strength, will attract the good will and the esteem of all people wherever they might be in this globe in which we live. It will enhance our own perception of ourselves and our pride in being an American. We can, we -- and I say it with emphasis -- write a new agenda for our future.
I am glad that Tulane University and other great American educational institutions are reaching out to others in programs to work with developing nations, and I look forward with confidence to your participation in every aspect of America's future.
And I urge Americans of all ages to unite in this Bicentennial year, to take responsibility for themselves as our ancestors did. Let us resolve tonight to rediscover the old virtues of confidence and self-reliance and capability that characterized our forefathers two centuries ago. I pledge, as I know you do, each one of us, to do our part.
Let the beacon light of the past shine forth from historic New Orleans and from Tulane University and from every other corner of this land to illuminate a boundless future for all Americans and a peace for all mankind.
Thank you very much.
Post by: greazee on December 12, 2008, 12:02:31 AM
I have about 48 sense sitting next to me and he isn't annoying me. I find that he is helping inform people of Pyro Raccoons scamming ways. You are probably scamming with him. SCAMMER!
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 12, 2008, 02:12:34 AM
Vouch
/smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 12, 2008, 06:51:04 AM
You sir are a stupid-head.
MAJOR MEGA ANTI-VOUCH!!
Post by: Mr K on December 12, 2008, 10:57:32 AM
I thought you were three there for a second.
Post by: Allanon on December 12, 2008, 08:02:31 PM
I thought you were three there for a second.[/quote]
Now because of your greed and Pyro's scamming ways, little Hilary won't get a Christmas! Can YOU live with that on your shoulders!?
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 12, 2008, 09:06:14 PM
Mommy! Why didn't Santa come?
Post by: JB Lee on December 12, 2008, 09:17:59 PM
Oh he did, and then 9 months later, you were born.
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 12, 2008, 09:46:44 PM
SCAMMER!!
Post by: JB Lee on December 12, 2008, 10:32:47 PM
you spelled it wrong...it's spelled "GOD!!!".
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 12, 2008, 10:35:33 PM
There's an arrow in your butt!
Post by: JB Lee on December 12, 2008, 10:39:23 PM
Post by: scythekills on December 12, 2008, 10:44:51 PM
wow pyro give back jb his shards or xmas wont happen!
[censored]ing love xmas u motha [censored]er so give it back@!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MadHatter on December 13, 2008, 01:03:30 AM
Post by: death_angel07 on December 13, 2008, 02:28:53 AM
voutch JBLEE give it back
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 13, 2008, 03:48:07 AM
Post by: Leroy Jenkins on December 13, 2008, 11:19:46 AM
Post by: greazee on December 13, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
Cheez-its come in a box and thats a type of cheese
Post by: JB Lee on December 13, 2008, 12:38:25 PM
Post by: Finisher on December 13, 2008, 12:46:18 PM
Post by: jony on December 13, 2008, 12:50:04 PM
Post by: Finisher on December 13, 2008, 01:39:48 PM