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Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 24, 2008, 06:38:07 PM
Welcome to my thread, please do have the patience to read it all. It is going to be quite a long topic to read, so bear with me!

A few years ago, Allanon joined Thetechguide as a new member. Almost instantly, did he start posting on scam topics saying its all scams, don't trust it. Then he came up with the "How to recognize the top 10 scams" thread. There were still many, many scams on thetechguide, so, Allanon decided to form a sort of "army" (imo) to help rid us of scammers. He called this army the Antiscammers.

The Antiscammers weren't at all completely succesful, however. They did a great job in alerting others of scams, but it wasn't enough. Scammers would use the antiscammers to scam even more.

Zspec32 was announced vice president of the Antiscammers at this stage, allowing for a new era in the Antiscamming army. Elite rank, a.k.a Antiscammers v2 (also, imo).

For years, the Antiscammers have been helping a great deal, and they have spread to many different websites, even though it all started here on Thetechguide.
[color=\"#800080\"]I have always been thinking, though... there are still many, many flaws in the Antiscammers that have allowed passage for scamming to take place, as demonstrated with the recent Account Sales / Pr0 is Klutch situations.

One of these flaws is that victims of scammers are often left with no money. What do these people do as a last resort? They SCAM, that's what.

[color=\"#006400\"]The actions of scammers, create more scammers. It is a monkey-see, monkey-do world out there.
Anyone can be a victim. Most of you already have been victims. Some of you have played a good game of chess, and managed to pull one over on a scammer. Some of the most trusted people I've seen on TTG have become scammers. I'm sure not all of the new members knew that Depressed Lover (a.k.a. Account Sales, the infamous scammer) was actually a Forum Mod at one stage? Believe it.

[color=\"#008080\"]People who are victims of scamming often resort to scamming to earn back the money they lost.

I want to set up a subsection of the Antiscammers, that handles this area. I am founding the Antiscamming Insurance Policy, where members can donate very small amounts of any type of investment (accounts, us$, rsgp, pins) in order to insure their assets, and easily earn back what they managed to lose.

[color=\"#000080\"]THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY TOUGH JOB, BUT IT IS (and I emphasize this with true meaning) HIGHLY POSSIBLE.

[color=\"#2f4f4f\"]Which is why I, Pyro Raccoon, need some help.

There are a couple of things I need to make this happen:

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  • Allanon, you are the Founder of the Antiscammers. This means I will need your permission to carry on with my idea. It could work on it's own, but I feel it would be better suited as part of the Antiscammers.
  • I will need at least TWO TRUSTED Elite Antiscammers to act as Chief Executive Officers, in order to make sure everything is done right, and that everything we do is of legitimate reason. I will also be playing a role in this.
  • I will need my own team of Middlemen, so we can guarantee safety during trade. About 5 people should suffice.
  • I will need a PUPPETMASTER. Whoever is up for this job will need the ability to prove trust, and keep it constant, watching over EVERY employee. You may pick an assistant if you like.
  • I will need suggestions from everyone and anyone with ideas.
  • I will need 2 treasurers to keep track of money

[color=\"#000080\"]I AM PLANNING FOR THE ANTISCAMMERS INSURANCE AGENCY TO BE A NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION

[color=\"#4b0082\"]Members will need to donate some money to the organization in order to make any of this possible. [/color]
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This can be achieved via small fees paid by whomever wishes to be insured. I will put up a list, and add your names to the list if you pay one small fee. Only the people on the list will be eligible to recieve money / pins / accounts if proof has been shown that they have been scammed of their posessions.

I am hoping to have achieved the complete and total establishment of this organization within the next three months. You are now free to post suggestions, as well as feedback.
 
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Small Shoe Magoo on December 24, 2008, 08:01:34 PM
No..
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: greazee on December 24, 2008, 08:18:23 PM
this has been tried before and it never worked... people losing money in runescape just isn't important enough for the casual member to devote time towards quite frankly. Then people try to scam the group by faking being scammed.... and if the people who help the group don't get anything in return then they wont be helping for very long.

btw that rape victim was never a forum mod on here.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: eloyman on December 24, 2008, 08:51:14 PM
before i read this.

No.


Allanon decided to form a sort of "army" (imo) to help rid us of scammers. He called this army the Antiscammers

- The anti-scammers did nothing to "stop" scamming we just we there as the offical trusted people.

The Antiscammers weren't at all completely succesful, however.

-Bull, the elite's have over 3 billion (thats yded and jb lee alone) of RSGP MMd/xfered.

[color=\"#000000\"]People who are victims of scamming often resort to scamming to earn back the money they lost.

- in my time I have seen 1 Elite scam, and that was Gtech Warriors. I've been here for quite awhile. If people resort to scamming, that is their choice but not everyone is like that.

[/color][color=\"#000000\"]THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY TOUGH JOB, BUT IT IS (and I emphasize this with true meaning) HIGHLY POSSIBLE.

-Acutally, it is near impossible, you have people that will scam other people just to get money, and there WAS a site set up like this along time ago, for 2 weeks, it was very successful but in the end it wound up failing miserably just like this plan.

This will just never work, nothing against you but it just wont.

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Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Stop Reading My Name on December 24, 2008, 08:51:36 PM
you can't start an anti-scamming group because you are a scammer.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: MadHatter on December 24, 2008, 09:09:09 PM
this is good enough to make me post.


and no. this won't work even though it is a kind of good idea...(you scammer) it won't work because no one here is an admin and josetann doesn't make us mods or anything anymore even though most of the traffic on ttg goes to the runescape section. runecore was good because we could actualy block proxies and ip ban so they never returned.


also: how was account sales aka depressed lover the girl who was raped by her brother a forum mod?
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Allanon on December 24, 2008, 09:10:17 PM
[quote name=\'greazee\' post=\'452777\' date=\'Dec 24 2008, 08:18 PM\']this has been tried before and it never worked... people losing money in runescape just isn't important enough for the casual member to devote time towards quite frankly. Then people try to scam the group by faking being scammed.... and if the people who help the group don't get anything in return then they wont be helping for very long.

btw that rape victim was never a forum mod on here.[/quote]

This.  It won't make a bit of difference in the end, especially since 90% of the blackmarket is dead.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Pureblood on December 24, 2008, 09:55:04 PM
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'452766\' date=\'Dec 24 2008, 07:38 PM\']
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[color=\"#006400\"] I'm sure not all of the new members knew that Depressed Lover (a.k.a. Account Sales, the infamous scammer) was actually a Forum Mod at one stage? Believe it.

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[/quote]

So you are calling "her"  bloodogre?

EDIT: Allanon pretty much summed up my opinion.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: greazee on December 24, 2008, 11:08:55 PM
[quote name=\'Pureblood\' post=\'452821\' date=\'Dec 24 2008, 08:55 PM\']So you are calling "her"  bloodogre?

EDIT: Allanon pretty much summed up my opinion.[/quote]

and since I summed up Allanons opinion then I summed up yours! I WIN!
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: JB Lee on December 24, 2008, 11:23:19 PM
I say yes.

Yes because you have to think of Anne Frank.

And I definitely didn't just post a response without reading anything other than Eloyman saying no.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 25, 2008, 01:17:52 AM
It is possible. And Account Sales has confessed that (s)he is in fact Depressed Lover. Look at her "One Foot in Front of The Other" thread. And yes, she actually was a mod at one stage /ohmy.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':o\' />
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: greazee on December 25, 2008, 01:35:38 AM
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'452847\' date=\'Dec 25 2008, 12:17 AM\']It is possible. And Account Sales has confessed that (s)he is in fact Depressed Lover. Look at her "One Foot in Front of The Other" thread. And yes, she actually was a mod at one stage /ohmy.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':o\' />[/quote]

A mod at www.passurclass.com not on TTG

Get your [censored] straight and realize that the rape victim was barely a scammer, is far from infamous and made little to no difference to this site except for the rape thread.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: MadHatter on December 25, 2008, 02:27:06 AM
passurclass isn't a site... its a box of code
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Allanon on December 25, 2008, 02:27:10 AM
[quote name=\'greazee\' post=\'452850\' date=\'Dec 25 2008, 01:35 AM\']A mod at www.passurclass.com not on TTG

Get your [censored] straight and realize that the rape victim was barely a scammer, is far from infamous and made little to no difference to this site except for the rape thread.[/quote]

A hilarious rape thread.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Pyro Raccoon on December 25, 2008, 01:43:42 PM
Before 5 minutes ago happened, I had faith in all you idiots. You are all [censored]tards, honestly.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Pureblood on December 25, 2008, 01:58:02 PM
She wasn't MOD here unless she was Bloodogre.

She had mod at my site not here. (my site has nothing to do with runescape)
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Kaosune on December 25, 2008, 02:23:55 PM
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'452766\' date=\'Dec 24 2008, 07:38 PM\']
[color=\"#800080\"]One of these flaws is that victims of scammers are often left with no money. What do these people do as a last resort? They SCAM, that's what.[/color][/quote]
I'm power mining atm, not scamming /dry.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'<_<\' /> .
Also, I need someone to link me to the Deppresed Lover's rape thread. Need the lulz /biggrin.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':D\' />

Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: MadHatter on December 25, 2008, 02:49:13 PM
pyro, you are the only retard here
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: abdul ftw on December 25, 2008, 05:43:58 PM
She was never famous, but then again..you could say she was what with the audience of her rape thread, but not for scamming, you have to do A LOT MORE than scam what she scammed to be even near famous.
Bloodogre was famous.
Depressed lover/account sales/Mr/Mrs I got Raped by my incestuous brother, was just a pathetic rape victim whom used 2 accounts and lied about it and pretended the other one was her boyfriend so she could ease the pain of her pathetic life, for all we know it was probably her father who raped her and she's just passing it off as her brother, Who knows?
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: JB Lee on December 25, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
JB Lee was famous, and he never scammed.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: abdul ftw on December 25, 2008, 06:30:26 PM
^ True fact...true fact.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: Yded on December 25, 2008, 07:56:21 PM
i already tried this with yded scam fund.

doesnt work out, people just lie constantly about being scammed and even create fake evidence.


and although u "came up" with this idea, the whole forums is entrusting you and other ppl with their money. lol@that.
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: MadHatter on December 25, 2008, 09:02:27 PM
reazee is famous...and he isn't even banned yet!
Title: Anti Scammers, v3!
Post by: eloyman on December 26, 2008, 12:34:10 PM
are you realling calling like 4 or 5 elites and 2 mods retarded..

Lol.