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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: cybervyk on June 01, 2001, 03:43:33 PM
I have read a number of posts here regarding the building of the Win2k boot CD.  I have succesfully done this many times since the first success.  I\'ve also made a bootable Windows NT 4.0 Server CD with the 2000 bootimg.bin and bootfix.bin.
  I was, however, wanting to take it a step or two further.  I would like to be able to set up an optional boot that would enter either the Windows 2000 setup or the Windows NT 4.0 setup.  The first and most devastating problem is that they both want to run out of I386.  I have also succesfully hacked the bootimg.bin (seems to be a popular name for the boot sector image off the the 2000 CD) to start from a, say, 4386 or 5386 folder.  The boot is succesful, but the installation is very choppy because so much of the installation is hard wired to run from the I386 directory.
  I have not been able to find any help on the internet concerning the bootimg.bin, the boot sector from the cd.  Most all of the sites with instructions on building such a cd offer the file as a seperate download, the rest simply instruct someone to use (usually) CDRWin to rip it off of the 2000 CD.  But, I can not seem to find discourse with those who may be more familiar with how this tiny little program works.
  Anyone who has been inside of it would certainly recognize the \"SETUPLDR.BINBOOTFIX.BINI386\" at the end of the data section.  I\'d mentioned that I was able to get it to run from \"5386\" for example by changing \"BINI386\" to \"BIN5386\".  I can do this for a number of boot sectors, but would rather find a way to get it to start from w2ki386 or     nt4i386.  
  Toward accomplishing this, I\'ve come across two stumbling blocks.  First, I can not seem to get the thing to recognize more than four characters for a path, i.e., I cannot tell it to go to nt4i386.  The second stopping point is that I also cannot seem to specify a path any deeper than one off of the root.  Again, being limited to four characters, I tried to set up my files in a directory called simply 86 under another folder off of the root caled 4.  Hacking the boot sector file with 486 instead of I386 still did not work.
  Anyone have further insight into the nature of this beast?
  Thank you and please also give me feedback if I have been unclear.  I tend to do that from time to time.  =/

  Vic

Edited by cybervyk on 06/01/01 04:16 PM.

Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on June 07, 2001, 05:28:55 AM
Maybe you can tell me how to get my W2K cd slipstreamed with SP2 bootable. I\'ve done precisly what the instructions here told me (believe me it\'s true). However I keep getting the message \'put the cd labeled service pack 2 in drive a:\'
To make WinXP bootable the same way was no trouble at all.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on June 12, 2001, 03:50:47 PM
I\'m afraid I can\'t help you with the boot loader internals, but I do have a suggestion you could try: Use two \'s instead of one.  You could, for instance, try substituting \"44\" for the \"I386\".  In \'C\', a \"\" is an escape character, and two of them indicates that you want a real (single) \"\".
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: YTZ on June 12, 2001, 09:25:31 PM
My best guess is that, in the never-ending madness that is \"Why the @#$% did Microsoft do that?\", they purposefully skimped on the dir name in the boot loader (since it never should be anything but i386, right?  And then they bloat the Operating System to make up for it....AGH!).

You could always right your own custom boot.bin to do the trick, but a little ASM might be needed to do it small enough...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz (AUS) on June 14, 2001, 09:28:45 AM
Hi M8

Yes it is a tricky one. I have lately be looking into something similar, but I want 98SE and Win2kSP2 on the same install bootable CD. I have not yet figured out how to load the info about multiple sector in the bootcatalog file. What you are trying to do I guess is trickier with NT4 and NT5 working of the same install folder. But there probably is a workaround it.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on June 14, 2001, 12:40:23 PM
Why not just use a regular win98 startup disk for the disk image to make the cd bootable?  Just make sure you add smartdrv to it.  In the menu you can have it not only ask if you want to boot with or without cd support, but also if you want to start the win98 or win2k install.

Only major limitation there, is win2k would only install on a fat or fat32 partition.  Even though win2k can see ntfs just fine, you\'d be starting the install from DOS, which can\'t.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Big_Z on June 14, 2001, 01:47:10 PM
http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/\")

Wonderful Multiboot guide detailed above


http://drivers.homestead.com (http://\"http://drivers.homestead.com\")
http://windowstweaks.homestead.com (http://\"http://windowstweaks.homestead.com\")
[email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz (AUS) on June 14, 2001, 07:47:50 PM
I have seen the guide from http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/\") a while back, but instructions from him, never seem to work in real life.

I dont see how using a Windows 98 floppy image can do it, that will only load aspi drivers for CD or not, how are the 4 sectors from the Windows 2000 loaded here?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: JP23 on July 24, 2001, 08:44:51 AM
1°) I\'m french, and i wanted to do that too !
2°) I find this link on the net \"by chance\" :
     - http://www.wwwfox.net/3in1.htm (http://\"http://www.wwwfox.net/3in1.htm\")
3°) But there is a big PB ! This page is in Chinese ... !
4 °) Is somebody know this language ? Not me ! And i\'ll be very happy if anyone could traduct this for all of us.

Sorry for my poor english !
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on July 24, 2001, 04:55:10 PM
It helps, because Win2k can be installed from DOS.  You\'ll want to load smartdrv first else it\'ll be painfully slow, but it will work.  Only caveat, is the drive cannot currently be ntfs.  It has to be FAT or FAT32 (since DOS cannot read NTFS).
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on August 26, 2001, 12:16:28 AM
I have today, just downloaded an official Microsoft Windows 2000 3in1 SP2 CD, meaning all 3 versions of Windows 2000, Pro/Server/Advanced Server (with SP2 slipstreamed into them) are on the same bootable CD, havnet burned it yet, but if I figure out how they have made the triple bootoption, I\'ll get back to you.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2001, 05:23:32 AM
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: mterlouw on September 01, 2001, 12:37:35 AM
I have created a multiboot CD that has Win98SE, WinME, and Win2k Adv. Server w/SP2 integrated.  It also has my boot manager, partition manager, DOS version of Partition Magic, and some other command-line tools on it as well.
The El Toro menu goes like this:

A. Windows 98 Second Edition
B. Windows ME
C. Windows 2000 Adv. Server
D. Command Prompt

I followed all the instructions on that guide mentioned above and it worked perfectly.  Well almost... inserting the boot images into the iso didn\'t work sometimes for no reason.  After I got it to work everything was fine.

I too would like to know how to get past the dual I386 folder thing.  kanyeung (from iexbeta boards) has made a dual WinXP Home/Pro CD, we should probably ask him how he did it.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on September 05, 2001, 01:18:29 AM
I have had a look at the mentioned CD now.

It\'s made up in a quite clever way.
First if you try to extrack the ISO to HDD, you will end up with 1.2GB of files.
WTF I thought, 1.2GB on a CD, once it\'s burned, it\'s only around 450MB.

It contains all 3 sets of Windows 2000, but they are in a subdirectory, not in the root.

The way they make it look like there are 1.2Gb on the CD, is that some of the big files in the 3 induvidual I386 folders are the same files repeated in 3 folders. Not quite sure yet how this is done. Say a file like driver.cab has the same sector location in all 3 folders. That saves 100MB straight away. Either a special Image master program is used, or a Hex editor, or whatever.

If someone has a place, I can post a few screenshots of the CD, will give some idea to people how it\'s made.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Bart-nu2 on September 07, 2001, 02:34:56 AM
They use symbolic links!

You can create such a CD on linux using mkisofs/cdrecord, not on win32 ;-(

Bart.
- www.nu2.nu/bootcd -
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2001, 02:33:38 AM
Someone can do this with WIN32 by a small tools Named CDIMAGE.EXE.  This tools is from M$ and it\'s powerful.  Anyone want to get it?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on September 08, 2001, 09:41:49 PM
Absolutely, thats the one they use to make all their ISO\'s as far as I know. That Appz is mentioned in the Application Name for most of MS\'s CD\'s

So yes please.


TA

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 09, 2001, 05:56:24 PM
So you won\'t get a ton of me-too\'s, you could send it to me, and I could put it up on the site.  Just email [email protected] ([email protected]).
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on September 09, 2001, 08:44:10 PM
Not to worry, found a copy of it now. CDIMAGE.EXE 2.39

Now comes the funny part, finding out how to use it, LOL

Admin, if he hasn\'t sent it to you by now, drop me a line, and I\'ll mail it to you.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 10, 2001, 09:53:39 PM
Got it.  I\'ll put it on the site tomorrow afternoon when I get back home, as long as there\'s no legal problems with doing so.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on September 13, 2001, 08:46:11 PM
Tried it out last night, AWESOME program, but doubt you can put it up, says for Microsofts internal use ONLY.

But it really works, turned 1.20GB files from Windows 2000 Pro/Server/Advanced Server into a multi OS ISO of less than 500MB.

A simple command line program, less than 70kb, yes 70 kb

Thanks again to David Ying for bringing this program to my attention.

It even makes a bootable ISO. basicly like the original Microsoft CD\'s, well not basicly, it is an original.

Did the Windows 2000 PRO SP2, bootable in one simple commandline, no need for CDRWin anymore.

I can put it on my webpage later on, with instructions on how to use it if anyone is interested.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 13, 2001, 10:03:10 PM
If I could program, I\'d make a GUI front-end for this proggie.  Looks to be very powerful.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 13, 2001, 10:15:52 PM
BTW, I think that as long as you use it to compile MS CD\'s, i.e. a slipstreamed win2k cd, multi windows cd, etc. that it\'d be ok.  I have it ready for download at www.thetechguide.com/downloads/cdimage.exe.  If I\'m wrong and MS wants it taken down, I\'d have no problem with that.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 16, 2001, 01:11:47 AM
A very, very alpha of the front-end is done.  Special thanks go out to Dexter, he was a tremendous help.  Also, do note that this is my first attempt at coding a Windows program.  Please go easy .

Just download the zip file, and extract the two files into their own directory.  As long as you have the VB6 runtime installed (most of you already do), that\'s all you need.  Run CDImage.exe, and that\'s it.

www.thetechguide.com/misc/cdimage_alpha1.zip
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Big_Z on September 16, 2001, 01:09:07 PM
dos is fine by me /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 16, 2001, 02:22:40 PM
Me too, I\'m used to working in linux so the command line doesn\'t scare me much.

But, a gui is nice.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 16, 2001, 04:08:17 PM
BTW, since I posted this, I made one change to the program.  It wouldn\'t run correctly if you extracted it to a directory with a space somewhere (i.e. c:cdimage was ok, but not c:misc programscdimage).  Same link, same ver number, just fixed that one problem.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Luiz Borges on September 17, 2001, 01:08:21 AM
If you want I can make a front-end to it... i downloaded the program and that looks like an easy job...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Luiz Borges on September 17, 2001, 01:16:07 AM
Thats a doubt... my Windows 2000 Pro version language is Portuguese Brazilian... and i having problems to extract the boot record from it... i extracted the boot record from a Windows 2000 US version and i was wondering is it will work with the BR version, does anyone had any luck with that kind of problem???

PS: why not post the boot records from M$ CDs for easy access?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on September 18, 2001, 11:31:58 PM
I have all the boot data for MS OS\'s CD\'s on my website, ready for download.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: MightyBob on September 20, 2001, 08:18:59 AM
Hello Folks,

Is-it possible to get CDIMAGE.EXE ?

Thk
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: davide125 on September 20, 2001, 09:54:36 AM
Could you post directory structure and boot sector of the 3in1 windows 2000 cd? How does the boot process work? It shows a menu where you choose what to install?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on September 21, 2001, 04:03:56 AM
im not too sure...but can someone give a run down of how to make this 3 OS bootable cd...and some of the documentation on how and why cdimage.exe is something more than just another cdrecord....thanks..im interested in puttin 2kpro and win98se on one cd
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: aardvark on September 21, 2001, 06:45:00 AM
Hi there,

Hi tried to use the MS program with no succes. Here is the main command line I came to use:

\"cdimage 2.39\" -lW2POEM_FR -h -n -d -bC:W2KW2KBootCDi386setupldr.bin -o c:W2KW2KBootCD c:toto.iso

Because of the lack of documentation, I could not know the relevance of each argument.
Furthermore, I do not know wich .bin to use on the cd... (I tried with both setupdlr.bin and bootfix.bin, as I think bootfont.bin is not really appropriate).
Finally, I first used Nero for burning the image, but he has problem recognizing .iso and open a dialog box I do not know how to fill, then I turned to CDR win, which has no such problem. Sadly, my image still does not work...

BTW, could somebody tell me the advantages of Nero against CDRwin?

Thank you,

aardvark
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on September 21, 2001, 08:26:38 AM
Not sure what you are trying to do, but if it was me, I would do it like this:

c:cdimage -lW2POEM_FR -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -bc:boot.bin c:W2KW2KBootCD c:toto.iso

You are using the wrong boot data, you have to use sector 20 from the original CD. If you dont know how to extrack it, you can download it from my page. In the above example, I have called the boot data boot.bin and it\'s in the root of the C drive. Dont include it in the root of the CD.

I got the process worked out now how the 3in1 is done, dublicated it a couple of days ago from scratch, also did a 98SE/2000 Pro bootable CD and a 2000Pro/XP Pro bootable CD.

I will post the way to do it, but it\'s a very time consuming process to explain how to do it, actually doing it when you know how, does not take to long.

What CDIMAGE can do that no other burn program can do, is as mentioned above \"Optimize\" ( -o ) files, as a file will only be recorded once, even if it appears 2-3 times on the CD, instead a \"shortcut\" will be used.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 21, 2001, 03:57:46 PM
I\'d be very interested in that.  Also if you know the default switches MS uses for their cdimage program for different versions of windows, that\'d be great too.  But I think it doesn\'t make a huge difference, as long as long filenames are enabled (or Joliet).
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on September 21, 2001, 11:02:05 PM
Please post a text file on how to do the 3OScd please...and maybe the one for 2kpro/xppro...although the 3 in 1 should clear everything up
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2001, 05:34:48 PM
I was changed the I386 folder to w2kpro which came out the error message said \"couldn\'t find NTLDR\". After that I read your forum and changed the I386 folder to 4386 and edit the boot section file to \"SETUPLDR.BINBOOTFIX.BIN4386\" which can find a NTLDR but it came out another error message said the \"NTDETECT failed\".
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on September 24, 2001, 07:43:58 PM
Yeh i have got both of those another i cant remember but i think it said \"bootload failure\"..anyways..maybe its the cdrw im using or something..but ive tried alot...i found a link on someone posted in chinese  http://www.cnethand.com/pc/opes/win2/2001714104520.php (http://\"http://www.cnethand.com/pc/opes/win2/2001714104520.php\") ...anyhow i ran the latest and greatest systran pro translator on it (not too great) and came up with some 2 none sense...it seems this person has used a different type of command line...  cdimage -lWIN2000_EN -t06/04/00,00:00:00 -h -n -bg:boot.bin -o -m
well ive tried that too...its not like im not trying..its just i dont know what the boot.image is i guess....i am doing 98se/me/2kpro/2kadvanserver...what boot image should i use...i alos have tried many other links and have found how to make a boot image from a floopy of course..but one problem...it seems i cant make a .img/.bin unless i use 9x and im now on 2k ;(.....for most i have got some progress...but lack the correct process somehow...what is that cmd line that this chinese man used that differes from the one here...it mentions something about a menu in the translation...i will post that below....can somebody please help us out here....ive tried alot of different ways its seems im now trying to do the one from  http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/#multi (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/#multi\")
anyways..here is my pitifule translation of this person\'s article from systran pro software.

(there is some non-related stuff at top of the article related to how to in linux/unix i think and then there is the instructions of the cdimage prog...after that there is this)

Certainly it not only is N which uses to be made WIN2000 gathers 1.  
To all \" massive documents repetition \" situation, all may display
enormous function with it.  But......  Good elephant this kind of
situation are not many......  Everybody lifts example?  


Concrete procedure:  


1, constructs one table of contents, regards as it light plate root
table of contents which is you must make, content which all must put
all makes, for instance, this table of contents calls c:  ewin3in1,
inside separately has  


C:  ewin3in1pro  

C:  ewin3in1server  

C:  ewin3in1advserver  


Table of contents, separately corresponds three WIN2000 edition.  Now
examines table of contents attribute, should or are more in 800M,
unable puts on one piece of light plate.  


2, now with CDIMAGE procedure, (you wants to produce ISO document
table of contents in another one table of contents) center moves:  


Cdimage -lWin2K3IN1 -t07/30/01,00:00:00 -h -n -o -m c:  ewin2k
My3IN1.ISO  


Directly will move CDIMAGE demonstrates parameter explanation.  Under
simply explains one commonly used parameter significance:  


-l:  (Is JKL L, is not IBM I) this is light plate volume sign  

-t:  Will possess time which document will suppose assigns, will look
very specialized  

-h:  Includes hideaway document  

-n:  Permits long document name  


-o:  This is most important, CDIMAGE essence is it.  Automatic
judgement repetition document, only processes one time to repetition
document, and automatic revision correlation document direction.  
Tacitly approves is uses document size and MD5 algorithm carries on
comparison (I also not very understands, probably is and CHECKSUM
similar concept method) from probability angle looks accuracy is quite
high, but certainly is not \" by byte contrast \".  If you request by
byte contrast, with -oc parameter.  But speed is extremely slow.  



-m:  Does not add this parameter speech, will not be able to produce
which will be bigger than 650M ISO reflection  


C:  ewin2k:  This is light plate root table of contents.  CDIMAGE
will start structure light plate table of contents structure by this
table of contents, on hard disk c:  ewin2kpro will turn into light
plate x:  pro  


My3IN1.ISO:  This is ISO document name which finally produces.  It
already was after optimization.  


3, finally only must record software with fever (like EASY CD CREATOR
CREATE DISK FROM IMAGE) engraves ISO light plate promptly may.  


Gathered to this our N 1 completes.  Certainly this piece of plate
only is simple three installments item recording and sending out in in
the same place, moreover cannot start.  Compared with ideal situation
is, makes light plate forms image 2000 such automatically starts and
starts installment, more ideal situation is open machine appears menu,
may choose installs PRO/SERVER or ADVSERVER, then automatic transfer
corresponding installment procedure.  


1) MD ewin2kenglishwin2000pro  

server  

AdvSvr  

And put each version into the dir  

2) copy Cdrom_ia.5, cdrom_is.5, cdrom_ip.5, cdrom_nt.5 to ewin2k  

3) copy anthing else you want into the \" root \" directory--ewin2k  

Make the cdimage with the command:  

Cdimage -lWIN2000_EN -t06/04/00,00:00:00 -h -n -bg:  boot.bin -o -m  


Mainly has 2:  One is puts DROM_XX.5 these documents to light packing
table of contents, lets installment procedure think this is original
negative.  Time ºòÓÃ -bc which moreover needs to make one reflection
document like boot.bin which starts floppy disk then makes CDIMAGE:  
boot.bin lets ISO be possible to start.  



This kind of plate certainly also has shortcoming, moreover is
obvious:  


1, if light plate has some place damage, just again is everybody \"
sharing \" system document, then possible 3 WIN2000 all will to
discard, unable installs.  Ordinary light plate only is damages that
document respective that one edition.  



2, is best must have light plate engraves record machine, this kind of
ISO ¾µÏó, with WINIMAGE solution is has significance, WINIMAGE
certainly does not understand this kind structure which fixes reforms,
it will arrive according to table of contents table all document
solution hard disk, alike document was duplicated certain.  Is equal
at returns to original state before optimization condition.  Likely
that EWIN 6 gathers one, unties behind good likely has about 1.9G.  


But these shortcomings all are not on the other hand important.  

Originates enet institute  



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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on September 25, 2001, 09:03:35 AM
Could you post the Url were you originaly receved that informaion from????

http://www.cnethand.com/pc/opes/win2/2001714104520.php (http://\"http://www.cnethand.com/pc/opes/win2/2001714104520.php\")

ooops I saw that just after posting /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />

I wonder if a GUI program could automate the process if it was given the reletive folders and image files that were needed???

Edited by The_Flames on 09/25/01 09:04 AM.

Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on September 25, 2001, 01:02:32 PM
We do have a gui program, that gives you access to the most commonly used options (remember, it\'s still alpha, so no guarantees).  You can get it here.

For the other guy\'s question, you need a Win9x floppy, for now, to make a boot disk that mixes both Windows 9x and NT (for exampe, WinMe and Win2k).  The Win2k bootsector is just for Win2k OS\'s.  And, cdimage (far as I can tell) is used only to make WinNT type iso\'s (because you can\'t use a floppy image for the bootable bin file...you have to use the Win2k boot.bin).

I would get a WinMe startup floppy, and modify it to do what you want.  There is a WinMe boot floppy image on this site, that is made to make a WinMe cd bootable.  Take that, dissect it, and figure out how to have it also start your Win2k OS startup.  Note, that you can write this image to a regular floppy, boot from it, and it\'ll act just like a bootable CD.  So you just burn one CD with all the OS\'s just the way you want them, keep rebooting with the floppy until it\'s just right, and then burn one more CD except use the floppy to make it bootable (hope all that makes sense).
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on September 25, 2001, 01:04:26 PM
Yeh im sure it could...why not? cdimage is a simple program...hell you could probably even write a .bat file to do it...but i dont know how to get it to work....everybody keeps saying o yeh i did it, o its easy, but nobody has told us...not here atleast.  Im lost on what image to use...and very interested in just exactly what that alternative comman line really does....if you read that it mentions something about a menu for loading which OS.....is that what happens anyways???is there a menu or do you just boot to a prompt, find the dir and run the setup...i have no clue...i got a older cd like this by sithiran or somebody....but it isnt made with the -o command....do you know how to do it???
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on September 27, 2001, 12:38:46 AM
ok i did fineally get a boot .img from the98 os envirometn..it didnt work...i used the guide at nu2u.nu on mulity bootcd....i got atht image...but i tried it and it donw work...you say filddle with it..im not sure what you mean...where should i look for the info on where to fiddle with that boot image...im really interested in this....tried about 25 times and no luck so far...i try about 6 times a day ......im not too sure what to fiddle with at all...i have never even seena boot floppy for win98 bot uop ever
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on September 30, 2001, 07:47:31 PM
CAn Someone help me..i was hoping not to have to reply to this thread again...but i just cant get it..i tried everything i have read so far...no luck...i must be missing some part of my brain that just wont let me absorb this....im not usually this simple..im sorry but i cant get it to work..ive tried i swear to all of you...atleast 40 times...no lie...i just make 4 or 5 images then burn them out on a cdrw...i think the cdrw is done now..ive done atleast 8 attempts per day now...no luck....im trying everything over and over again just changing a few things..but now luck..i am runninga  win2k machine..i dont knwo if that really matters or not to make this image with the rawwrite or whatever...but i can borrow a 98 machine..only if i know it got it good to go without having to borrow that machine for like hours.....ive done the nu2u.nu or wherever about 10 times...used that cdimage on 2k/xp images about 15 and just done random 98 bootimages that i have fiddled with about 15 times....im desperate here..i did get the 2k to work with cdimage..just not the way it is supposed to...i just threw the xp and advan serv into a sub dir...atleast i can upgrade /tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' /> or fumble around in recovery console....what should this win98bootimage look like...what files and modify what/??how do i get the option to install OS?? below the 98 startup screen of start with or without cdrom support???why the hell cant i seem to get it.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on October 03, 2001, 08:34:11 AM
If you dont try and read up on it yourself, no one can teach you.

On my page you can find some info on making a normal bootable CD, as for multiboot, I\'m working on a manual that actually works. However it will take time to write it so everybody can understand what goes on.

If you want read the spec sheet for bootable CD, I have had to read it myself many times to understand what goes on.
Download it here:

http://www.phoenix.com/PlatSS/PDFs/specs-cdrom.pdf (http://\"http://www.phoenix.com/PlatSS/PDFs/specs-cdrom.pdf\")

When the manual will be ready, I do not know yet.

Oz

http://www.angelfire.com/linux/oz/ (http://\"http://www.angelfire.com/linux/oz/\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: lethalmonk on October 04, 2001, 12:22:14 AM
you have forgotten to insert the file, cdromsp2.tst, into the root dir your slipstreammed Win2k disc. for more info on making bootable NT, 2k & XP cd\'s, i found a good site @
http://www.bink.nu (http://\"http://www.bink.nu\")

hope i have helped
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: space between on October 04, 2001, 07:40:30 AM
there\'s a good site right here for making 2k bootable......anyways....ive read and read up...and about to throw up...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Khurram on October 10, 2001, 10:11:49 PM
josetann, did you figure out how to make a win2k 3in1 cd? I tried using the standard win2k boot.bin file with the cd, but it complains about missing ntldr. There must be another boot.bin file for this cd.

Thanks.
Khurram.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on October 13, 2001, 07:10:47 AM
OK, I have manual up now for making the 3 in 1 ISO.

http://ozaustralia.cjb.net (http://\"http://ozaustralia.cjb.net\")

Will add how to make the ISO multibootable shortly, since it\'s very time consuming to write stuff like this so everybody can understand it.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 13, 2001, 08:45:49 PM
Thank you OZ...very nicely done. I just would like to suggest to you jose to put that on the \"how to\" section..or atleast a link to Oz\'s homepage...thanks again Oz and i can\'t want to burn it ;P

p.s. hurry up with the other...j/k\'n...thanks for real...seriously!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on October 17, 2001, 05:29:19 PM
Thanks, but since you are the only person who has some use of the page, I\'ll remove it, no point in wasting valuable space on my site
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on October 18, 2001, 04:40:10 AM
he may be the only person with a use of the info but I bet he\'s not the only person who has a intrest, Just look at the number of people who have posted within this thread

Ps I would love to get my 2k pro / adv server / nt4 cd bootable /wink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\';)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2001, 04:42:57 AM
Hey, Oz, continue your great works plz. How to make the 3in1 CD bootable?

Thanks.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: POLOJohnny on October 18, 2001, 11:43:18 AM
hey Oz...
great work w/ the manual /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
i\'m reallie lookin 4ward to c u post up the manual on how to make the win2k 3-in-1 cd bootable /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
btw...i think u had a typo in ur manual...
it\'s at this place where u told us to make 3 folders under \"UENGLISH\" u put \"ADV_SER\".  i think u meant \"ADV_SRV\" as it\'s shown on ur pix.  just thought u mite wanna know about it /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
kk...hopefully to c ur great work done on how to make the iso bootable reallie soon /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
thanx a lot again /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

PJ
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on October 18, 2001, 03:12:58 PM
Oz...

Just to let you know that I along with alot of other people who may not have posted to this forum also have a need for the information that you were so kind enough to post on your site.  I, being a sys admin, am always looking for ways to simplify doing a job and make life easier.  When I ran into the original post regading  the triple boot OS cd and your response.. I thought that finally after quite a few months of research would finally get the answer to a question that I had started awhile back but placed it on the back burner due to other pressing commitments.  I am very happy to see that you have found a way to bring that long posed question to the resolution stage.  And would greatly appreciate it very much if you would continue with the manual that you started on your site.

Great Job Oz.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Lotus Nymphaea on October 18, 2001, 03:26:15 PM
hello everybody
the good news is now you really can burn all win2k versions on the same cd. just follow the guideline mentioned on Mr.Oz website (http://ozaustralia.cjb.net) and add one more commandline option to the mentioned. it is \"-bd:loader.bin\".
the original one was
\"F:cdimage -lW2KPSAS_SP2 -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -w1 -m D:ROOT W2KPSAS_SP2.iso\"
the new one is
\"F:cdimage -lW2KPSAS_SP2 -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -w1 -m -bd:loader.bin D:ROOT W2KPSAS_SP2.iso\"
the loader.bin, diskem1x.bin and diskemu.cmd files are required in the D:ROOT. the files can be downloaded from mr.Bart\'s website available in diskemu\'s addons.
that\'s all and you can step ahead in creating any mix-match boot images you can think of.
and do burn the cd with any cd writer which can burn iso images.
hope Oz, i have reduced your workload.
thank\'s Bart,Oz very very much.
do let me know by mail([email protected]) or postings, if things go right/wrong.

p.s.
one more thing. the Oz guides mentions about 106 files and 1 folder, infact its 104 files and 1 folder. that\'s what i found out, and its all working well.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on October 18, 2001, 06:59:25 PM
Thanks, yes typo, fixed.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on October 18, 2001, 10:39:00 PM
104 files and one folder yes, but there are 2 files within that folder so that makes it 106.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 19, 2001, 11:28:22 AM
Ok on i am putting the files in the root like Lotus mentioned...but do i delete the old DISKEMU.BIN and just leave the diskem1x.bin there....or leave both in??? anyhow i am attemting it as is right now....bbl with result (i am adding win98se to the 2k\'s)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 19, 2001, 01:15:54 PM
I just wanted to follow up on that attempt...it got me to a load screen and acted as if it was going to work....but i couldn\'t get any of the .img\'s to load or even be found for 2k/98se...so i guess it didnt work...im not sure i followed oz\'s guide to the T and just created another folder called 98se & 98s and duplicated the process of Oz\'s guide but just with those folder\'s and win98 but no luck...it wont boot even to win2k...just that damn loader screen /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />...any suggestions because lotus\'s instruction\'s don\'t seem to work exactly how he typed them
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on October 20, 2001, 01:23:51 AM
Lotus N, this doesnt sound right. How will it let the user choose which win2k ver to install? Maybe you have to modify diskemu.cmd file. Has anyone used this suggestion to burn the actual iso? Did it work?

Edited by Kfh on 10/20/01 01:30 AM.

Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Lotus Nymphaea on October 20, 2001, 05:50:03 AM
hello everybody

the new command line.
\"F:cdimage -lW2KPSAS_SP2 -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -w1 -m -bd:loader.bin D:ROOT W2KPSAS_SP2.iso\"

the command line which i mentioned above works fine. only thing you have to replace is the path to your root folder. so if your root folder is in z:, then the command line would be
\"z:cdimage -lW2KPSAS_SP2 -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -w1 -m -bz:loader.bin z:ROOT W2KPSAS_SP2.iso\"
assuming cdimage.exe also resides in z: and not in the z:root folder.

ok, and now about the which diskemu file to be kept. use the new one from the bart\'s site. its called diskem1x.bin. bootcat.bin is also not required. so the make sure you have the following files in the root folder
ASRVSECT.DAT
CDROM_IA.5
CDROM_IP.5
CDROM_IS.5
CDROM_NT.5
CDROMSP2.TST
diskem1x.bin
diskemu.cmd
loader.bin
READ1ST.TXT
README.DOC
SPNOTES.HTM
WPROSECT.DAT
WSRVSECT.DAT

the diskemu.cmd file needs to be created with the following contents. do not use tabs, use spaces instead.

:start
cls
print
print   Setup Menu                                
print   ==========
print   1.   Windows 2000 Professional
print   2.   Windows 2000 Server Upgrade
print   3.   Windows Advance Server
print   Esc) Boot from hard disk...
print
print   Enter a choice:

:mainkey
; timeout is 9 seconds, default key is escape
getkey 9 esc
onkey 1 goto pro
onkey 2 goto srv
onkey 3 goto advsrv
onkey esc boot 80
; When no key found...
goto mainkey
;

and that\'s all. ready to burn and boot. make sure to hide those bin and dat files in joliet filesystem and not in the iso filesystem or else you will get a boot failure.

p.s.
hey Oz, i have been fighting with 2 problems.
1. my slipstream does not seem to work. it asks for the sp2 cd during installation. how do i avoid that.
2. and the serial number avoiding trick failed on my machine by saying the product id key was invalid. i think its because of the eof characters. the file size of setupp.ini needs to be exactly 63 bytes even after changing the numbers. when the trick failed i tried reverting by copying the original file. lets see how i can get avoid that serial crap.

bye everybody, enjoy and have fun.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on October 20, 2001, 05:57:18 AM
hello everybody
sorry for the incomplete file. here\'s the complete one.

:start
cls
print
print   Setup Menu                                
print   ==========
print   1.   Windows 2000 Professional
print   2.   Windows 2000 Server
print   3.   Windows Advance Server
print   Esc) Boot from hard disk...
print
print   Enter a choice:

:mainkey
; timeout is 9 seconds, default key is escape
getkey 9 esc
onkey 1 goto pro
onkey 2 goto srv
onkey 3 goto advsrv
onkey esc boot 80
; When no key found...
goto mainkey
;

:pro
run WPROSECT.DAT
;

:srv
run WSRVSECT.DAT
;

:advsrv
run ASRVSECT.DAT
;
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Lotus Nymphaea on October 20, 2001, 05:57:31 AM
hello everybody
sorry for the incomplete file. here\'s the complete one.

:start
cls
print
print   Setup Menu                                
print   ==========
print   1.   Windows 2000 Professional
print   2.   Windows 2000 Server
print   3.   Windows Advance Server
print   Esc) Boot from hard disk...
print
print   Enter a choice:

:mainkey
; timeout is 9 seconds, default key is escape
getkey 9 esc
onkey 1 goto pro
onkey 2 goto srv
onkey 3 goto advsrv
onkey esc boot 80
; When no key found...
goto mainkey
;

:pro
run WPROSECT.DAT
;

:srv
run WSRVSECT.DAT
;

:advsrv
run ASRVSECT.DAT
;
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 20, 2001, 11:14:05 AM
F:cdimage -lW2KPSAS_SP2 -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -w1 -m -bd:loader.bin D:ROOT W2KPSAS_SP2.iso

ok im going to try this again with the .cmd modified...anyways....the
-bd:loader.bin
in order for me to get it to work i got to type  -bd:ROOTloader.bin
because that is where the loader.bin is....the line works but i have to change that...or do i leave the a copy of the loader.bin in the D: and D:ROOT but choose D: when making the .iso
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 20, 2001, 12:54:16 PM
Following up again....well it was better this time ;P....the boot menu after editing the .cmd looks the way i want and performs the way i wan too...but. When i chose 1 to load win2kpro it said press any key to boot from cd....i did...then it said the \"could not find ntdlr data\" message...note i did NOT set those files to hidden...is that what is causing the problem...or something else...note i would of set them to hidden but i am not too sure how to do that in cdimage. It defiantely is working the way i want just that damn ntdlr message again...hidden in the ROOT dir i am taking is what to do
\"make sure to hide those bin and dat files in joliet filesystem and not in the iso filesystem or else you will get a boot failure.\"
ok the  
ASRVSECT.DAT
CDROM_IA.5
CDROM_IP.5
CDROM_IS.5
CDROM_NT.5
CDROMSP2.TST
diskem1x.bin
diskemu.cmd
loader.bin
READ1ST.TXT
README.DOC
SPNOTES.HTM
WPROSECT.DAT
WSRVSECT.DAT
all the .dat\'s and bin\'s in this dir right (ROOT dir)....and how would i do that..i have read the arguements in cdimage and it doesnt mentioned anything on how to do what you mean...only how to burn hidden files
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Lotus Nymphaea on October 20, 2001, 02:42:43 PM
hello everybody and space,

its not essential to have loader.bin in your iso filesystem, but i\'m not too sure of cdimage whether it will include that image from outside. the concept is, loader.bin is what gets loaded at sector 17 of the cdrom which is the bootable sector catalog. thus inserting (and not file existence in the filesystem) loader.bin into the iso image will make the cd bootable.

ok, you seem to be having problems with the hiding of other .bin and .dat images. avoid hiding currently. create the iso image without any hide parameters and see whether the iso image is bootable or not. i have successfully installed all the three w2k versions, but that stupid sp2 cd inserting problem is still their.
let me know if you get stuck.

bye, enjoy and have fun.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: POLOJohnny on October 21, 2001, 03:39:59 AM
hey Lotus
slipstream is easy...u just have to download that \"network\" sp2 pack that\'s about 101mb (so u can\'t use the \"express\" one)
and u use the switch \"-x\" to extract...so run the command from the run dialog ie. C:w2ksp2.exe -x
then specify the unzip destination
after that.. u go run again...say if u extracted it to C:w2ksp2
and say if ur copied win2k cd is under C:win2k
u don\'t use the \"-s\" switch for the i386 folder like c:win2ki386
all u should do is point to that c:win2k
so...clear things up..u type command C:w2ksp2i386updateupdate.exe -s:C:win2k
and that should do the slipstream...hope it solve the problem u were having
about the cd-key problem..
i had that also...on mai professional..i think it\'s just ur version problem..since there\'re soo many versions of windows2k 4 each edition (i\'m not talkin about pro, srv, & ads) i meant like the old beta..oem..retail...and prolly some other versions out there
all i did was get another version and tried it again..and it works just  fine..all u do is replace the last 3 char. in setupp.ini to \"270\"
and it should work if u get the version it\'d work on
i have no idea which version the trick would work on...but i got that trick work on all editions (pro, srv, & ads) of my win2k /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
btw..that nu diskemu.cmd file u told us to modified about...
i\'m gunna try that rite now /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
so wish meeh luck..hehe /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
aritie..hope that take cares of ur 2 lil problems /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
PJ
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: POLOJohnny on October 21, 2001, 04:27:26 AM
hey Lotus
okay..i\'m bk from testing the iso w/ the modified diskemu.cmd
i\'m not sure wut u meant by hidin parameter..did u mean like just \"hide\" it from the file properties??
neway...so i didn\'t use hide parameter..burnt the cd-rw w/ cdrwin and i get into the windows setup...but it loads drivers extremely slow...and i get n \"Disk I/O error: status = 00008000\" error
so..i dunno wut\'s up w/ that?? /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />
kk..let meeh know wut to do next..thanx /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
PJ
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 21, 2001, 06:39:55 PM
Ok...alittle different this time...i guess...it seemed to work right by hiding the files in cdrwin..or i think it did..i just burned 2kpro and win98...the win98 works of the .img but win2k....same problem...keeps saying cannot find ntdlr data.....must be something simple i am over looking or something...what i do just to clear up a hesitation you might have is exactly what i think i should do.....i chose 1 for win2kpro and it loads the prosect.dat that i got from oz\'s page (or i think from his page atleast)..either way it says cannot find ntdlr data....any clue????
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 21, 2001, 08:19:30 PM
OK another follow up almost working...very close this time ;P...i forgot to do this part from oz\'s page...sorry

\"Now you have to place/replace 2 files in each of those 3 folders.

Make sure you put them in the right folder, or your screwed.

ASRV   Advanced Server
WPRO  Pro
WSRV  Server\"


Ok i have done that now....now here is what i am trying to boo
1)win2kp
2)advser
3)98se
ok when i type 1)win2kp....it says push any key to boot from cd...like it should...but instead of ntdlr data missing...it says \"ntdetect failed\"....ok but when i try for 2)advser it still says \"unable to detect ntdlr data\"...3)98se works fine...
so here is another question about what 0z typed in the step i forgot... he mentions to \"place/replace\"...i dont understand really..i placed those files in those dir\'s...i didnt have to replace anything....should i of replaced something????i just extracted them in there..
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 21, 2001, 08:28:23 PM
I\'m seriously sorry for almost spamming this thread...im just really interested...anways one more ?...when it mentions \"When all done, you should have 105 files in root of folder, and 1 folder with another 2 files in it.\"....what does that mean...if i choose properities on my ROOT folder i got all kinds of folders and files....like thousand\'s....where does those figures come from???
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on October 23, 2001, 04:45:26 AM
The root of the folder means the folders in addition to the Uenglish folder in your cd root (the asrv, wpro and wsrv folders). If you followed Oz instructions to the letter, these would be D:ROOTASRV, D:ROOTWPRO  and D:ROOTWSRV . Each one of these folders should have 105 files + 1 sub-folder (the sub-folder should have 2 more files).

Hope this clears it up.
K.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 24, 2001, 04:47:44 PM
So everybody gets this but me i guess....i dont get 105 =subdir with 2 ...i dont even get close..the only thing i am not doing is have windows server..i got win98se instead...so i have win2kpro, win2kadvserver, and win98se...either way that is not effecting my lack of understanding...

When all done, you should have 105 files in root of folder, and 1 folder with another 2 files in it.

what???? i extracted all files from the 2k\'s into the ROOTUENGLISHADV_SRV and WPRO.   they have all kinds of files and folders in them...all kinds....and my folders outside of the UENGLISH dir are ASRV, WPRO,  and WIN98SE....the win2k\'s have 9 files in each....that is it...where the heck am i missing 96 files and a folder at????i have replaced the setupldr.bin and the txtsetup.sif files in both the i386 folder of the 2k\'s and also placed the files in the asrv and wpro folders in the ROOT directory....ive also have copied over the BOOTFIX.BIN from both of the i386 folders to the D:ROOTASRV and WPRO...i didnt slipstream because i have done that before...Ok i just read the page again for about the 80th time as i was typing here....i still dont see it...I FEEL SOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID....I MEAN REALLY BECAUSE IM THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESNT GET IT.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on October 25, 2001, 04:26:50 AM
I dont get how the .cmd file works, all I seem to get is a pro or asvr not found not found. (ps i\'m not including 2k server as i dont own it)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on October 25, 2001, 06:15:40 AM
Space Between, read Oz\'s instructions carefully. You dont extract all files for win2k server in wsrv dir; just the boot images and then replace it with some files.

Flames, I had the same problem in the cmd. You probably made the cmd file the same way I did (copied and pasted from the browser). Well, edit the cmd file in a text editor (notepad will do nicely) and remove all trailing spaces from all lines in the file. It will be ok then.

Hope it helps.

Now, my problem. I booted the cd okay, lauched adv server setup, it copied files to the hd and then rebooted the computer. Now it ask me for sp2 cd or a location for \"nt5inf.cat\" file. I checked the cd and it is not there. I checked the expanded dir of sp2 and it is not there. I tried the slipstreaming process 1 more time, burnt a cd, but still the same error. Is anybody else getting the same error (is this what you get also Lotus N.)?

K.

Edited by Kfh on 10/25/01 08:44 AM.

Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on October 25, 2001, 09:08:49 AM
can anyone get to OZ \'s website as I Cannot, I wonder if yahoo has killed it as it was so populer ???
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on October 25, 2001, 12:16:38 PM
No, I cant get to it either. I have been trying for the last 2 days now. But you can go to the forums at http://pub94.ezboard.com/bozaustralia (http://\"http://pub94.ezboard.com/bozaustralia\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 25, 2001, 05:10:02 PM
ahh..one is supposed to extract all files OUT of the 4 boot.img\'s...not just the 4.img\'s..i was just putting the 4 .img\'s on the cd....anyways...i had that problem but then i just clicked cancel and went on...you can install it afterwards if you want...as far as the drivers..i. think they get copied over either way....atleast i think they did on sp1
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 25, 2001, 05:12:47 PM
o yeh i forgot to ask....i have never installed win9x ever...how do i install it off the floppy??what do i run..i have searched for the answer but all i keep getting is that it is supposed to automatically work....and what or where do you think it would be a good place on this multi OS cd to put the win98 folder at ????same process or would i just put it in the root...???do i have to put it in the root folder or the same one that has 2k\'s in it??
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 25, 2001, 06:53:52 PM
Ok i fuct around in the dark and found out how to do it...only thing now ...which is REALLY weird...is when i try to install win98 it thinks my cdrom is C:...instead of D: or E: like it should be...so i am wondering ....if it thinks my cdrom is C:...where is it installing too???anybody ever had this problem...this doesnt make much sense to me...the cdrom i am using is in E:...but when i have to browse the cd to run the win98 setup...i have to change to the c: instead of the E:
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: POLOJohnny on October 25, 2001, 09:27:48 PM
hey space....
win2k uses NTFS file system
u can c all ur harddrive partitions and files under win2k
but if u don\'t have any FAT16 or FAT32 partition in ur harddrive..
the windows 95/98/ME editions r not gunna c u have a harddrive at all..
that\'s prolly y it just assigned ur cdrom to first available drive letter since it doesn\'t c any partition at all that\'s FAT16 or FAT32
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: POLOJohnny on October 26, 2001, 12:21:25 AM
btw guyz....
mr. oz\'s webbie is http://ozaustralia.cjb.net (http://\"http://ozaustralia.cjb.net\")
i\'ve been visitin it pretty often..
and i haven\'t run into any trouble of can\'t get into his websites..
did u guyz type the rite web address??
PJ
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on October 26, 2001, 04:39:44 AM
I was using the link at  he bottom of his postings !
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 26, 2001, 04:06:10 PM
Hey thanks...that makes sense..i never thought about it being i have never installed win98 before on a ntfs hdd...and as far as the website not working....it\'s worked every time for me
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on October 27, 2001, 12:54:11 PM
Well, I for one am definitely having problems with accessing the site. It doesnt work with my account with 1 isp, but it works (sporadically though) with my account with another.

I just accessed the site and it seems that the 3in1 page is not there anymore. I hope Oz is updating it and that is why he pulled it from there.

I still havent been able to get the slipstreamed cd to install. It keeps on asking for sp2 cd.

K.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on October 28, 2001, 11:56:09 PM
I got a ?...with those .dat\'s i downloaded from oz\'s page...how do i make those???those seem to initialize all the setup files for the 2k\'s..how would i make one for win98/se/xp???
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2001, 02:19:43 AM
I am a chinese,and get this website from http://www.wwwfox.net/,I (http://\"http://www.wwwfox.net/,I\") am glad to help you of all.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on October 31, 2001, 06:13:20 AM
It is great that you want to help out especially after Mr. Oz apparently doesn\'t. The only problem is that all of us non-chinese have to learn chinese /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

Seriously, I put the link thru the web translator at altavista and it does enough so that you can follow along.

Now, has anyone been able to install win2k adv srv from the 3in1 cd (as described by Oz and LotusNymphea) (with sp2 slipstreamed)? I dont think that this is the way to make a proper 3in1 cd. At least, it doesnt work for me.

If I burn the cd without slipstreaming sp2, it asks for sp2 cd (if I have copied setupldr.bin txt*.sif to root/asrv etc dirs) right after running the image or it says ntdetect failed (if i have copied only txt*.sif). As I posted before, if I have slipstreamed sp2, then the files are copied and after the system boots and launches the win2k gui, it again asks for sp2 cd.

Thanks.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 01, 2001, 05:57:09 PM
Kfh yes i have...i have installed win2k pro and advan server...they both worked and are installed as service pack 2 WITHOUT it asking for the cd..i know what you mean...i have had that happen once with my friends version of win2kpro with sp1...but it didnt happen with mine. It is the correct way to do it...on OZ\'s page i mean.....but can anyone help me out on making win98/me install off the same cd... it gets to the part where it says something like this but not exactly

windows 98 setup
scanning registery...
copying files to prepare setup

it says that but then the cd stops spinning and that screen is just frooze there... i copied over the files from the cd to my hdd and ran setup there but it said it was uncompatible with the ntfs partition and terminated install...which i know it is but it wasnt a ntfs partition i copied them too and ran setup...about those .dat files OZ has made....how do i make one of those...those seem to be the files that manipulate the install into working right from the extracted floopy images...i put some effort into.(atleast for me ;P)..anyways..

PLEASE HELP ...I really want to get win98 and winme on the same cd and to work properly and have the whole thing over...i have never ever installed win9x so i am not too sure what is going right and what is going wrong..besides it is just not working...here is how i edited my diskemu.cmd down below...it seems to work right?¿i guess...but as of now i am using a .img to run win9x setup..


;
; LucisuxoOS CD Version 1 (2kpro/aserv - win98se/me)
; Created by Luciusxo
;
; Some notes:
; - do not use tabs in this file! Use spaces!
; - the key \"tags\" like \"esc\", \"entr\", ... must be lowercase!
;
:start
cls
print
print ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print Micorsoft OS Install Menu (Microsoft isnt DIRECTLY responsible 4 WTC 09/11/01)
print                                           ********
print ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print F1=Help   F2=Win98/ME Overview & Setup Instructions   F4=DOS Partioning Help
print F3=Credits And Thanks To Those And Where I Got The Info On How This Was Made
print ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
print
print ATTENTION!!! IF YOU DON\'T KNOW HOW TO INSTALL WINDOWS 98SE OR ME PRESS F2 NOW!
print
print                     1)   MS Window\'s 2K Professional
print                     2)   MS Window\'s 2K Advanced Server
print                     3)   MS Window\'s 98 Second Edition
print                     4)   MS Window\'s Millenium Edition (Corporate Edition)
print ______________________________________________________________________________
print                          
print                             \"Other Stuff\"
print
print d)   Development->           t)   The Todo List For Next Time
print q)   Quit To Command Prompt  p)   PowerQuest\'s Partition Magic 7.0 DOS Version
print r)   Reboot                  Esc) Boot First Harddisk
print
print Choose...but choose wisely!
:mainkey
; timeout is 20 seconds, default key is escape
getkey 200 esc
onkey 1 goto read11
onkey 2 goto read12
onkey 3 goto read9
onkey 4 goto read10
onkey d goto dev
onkey q quit
onkey p goto pq
onkey r reboot
onkey f1 goto help
onkey f2 goto read0
onkey f3 goto read7
onkey f4 goto read5
onkey esc boot 80
onkey t goto todolist
; When no key found...
goto mainkey
;
:todolist
cls
print
print                                         \"Todo list\"
print
print Why a Todo List you might be wondering...well probably not but im gonna tell
print you incase your a very late person ;P. In this release the only thing that I
print can use is a 80min cd. As you all know these are becoming obsolete. With
print 99min cd\'s and even better the double data cd\'s right around the corner,
print there will have to be alot of new cdrom\'s being made. As most of you probably
print know the standard cdrom will only read 99 minutes...so with double data cd\'s
print coming out VERY soon new cdrom\'s will be made. With that change comes time
print parallel with dvdr\'s already here...just not affordable /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />. So i am currently
print searching for a 99 minute cdr-w to purchase (double data i wont use unless
print they are considerably cheaper than dvdr\'s and only a pinch higher than a 99
print minute cdr). When i get my hands on a 99min cdr-w i will do another LuciusxoOS
print cd but with nothing ript out at all of win2k\'s and with WinXP Pro and XP
print Advanced Server. That will cover any OS that Microsoft has that is worth doing
print at all (although i could do that OS cd now but not without drastically ripping
print out data). Even after you wind up learning how to do this kind of cd yourself,
print which will be soon thanks to the links i have given, this cd will be long
print forgotten about. Things coming up around the corner for data-back are going to
print only get bigger and better. It\'s going to be exciting to see how all these new
print memory storage disc\'s is going to affect us by having access to it freely. For
print years now dvd\'s have only been in the hands of the MPAA (who which is by the
print way not good for anybody but themselve\'s...regardless of what you think they
print do or stand for...they are a spoof association). Also being that cdrom\'s have
getkey
goto 2todo2
;
:2todo2
cls
print
print not been taking advantage at all of the 99minute cd. Will be interesting to
print see how music artist react to having to put more songs on a cd, that is going
print to be bought, ript and gave away on the net /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />. Well...anyways, it will all be
print extremely interesting to experience /tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' />. In the end cash, credit and tax\'s are
print created no matter what...or atleast i hope for MY sake /tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' />.
print
print Until next time...LEARN SOMETHING!!!
print
print Press any key to return to the main menu...
getkey
goto start
;
:help
cls
print
print HELP FOR WHAT???
print ----------------
print
print Help 1:
print If you fall off a roof,try not to run to get help...could increase damage.
print
print Help 2:
print \"Simple things amuse simple people\" -some retarded guy years ago
print
print Press any key to return to main menu
getkey
goto start
;
:read9
cls
print
print
print
print
print ABORT WINDOWS 98SE INSTALLATION? y or n?
getkey
onkey n run cdboot.img
onkey y goto start
; When no key found...
goto read9
;
:read10
cls
print
print
print
print
print ABORT WINDOWS ME INSTALLATION? y or n?
getkey
onkey n run cdboot.img
onkey y goto start
; When no key found...
goto read10
;
:read11
cls
print
print
print
print
print ABORT WINDOWS\'S 2000 PROFESSIONAL INSTALLATION? y or n?
getkey
onkey n run WPROSECT.DAT
onkey y goto start
; When no key found...
goto read11
;
:read12
cls
print
print
print
print
print ABORT wINDOWS\'S 2000 ADVANCED SERVER INSTALLATION? y or n?
getkey
onkey n run ASRVSECT.DAT
onkey y goto start
; When no key found...
goto read12
;
:read0
cls
print
print                        \"Win98/ME Overview & Setup Instructions\"
print
print ///////////////////////////////////////
print Since I barely had enough in me to make this cd...I have not figured out
print exactly how to make the win98/me setup process easier than what Microsoft says
print it is, but we have lost the boot floppy ;P. Now it took me awhile to even
print gather the info on how to do this mulitOS bootable so don\'t think im heading
print right back out on the forum\'s beating users for information ;P.
print
print Also...unless you have a fat16/32 partition on your hdd that is functional
print already...you will have to run fdisk and choose to format a fat16/32 partition
print first, or else it will recongize the cdrom drive as c:. Trust me, to show you
print a example on how little I know about computers, I actually tried to install it
print on a NTFS hdd and got a error saying it couldnt find a fat partition. So I
print beat the boards again and someone responded to me informing me of this ;P.
print Although I have read a article on how to go about doing it with some text
print editing and software, also how to run Window\'s 98 as a operating system off a
print cd without having 1 win98 file on your hdd, I have chose to decline those
print craft\'s due to the lack of time it takes...but you might want to look into it
print If you do look into runnig win98 off a cd...find out if you can burn a cd
print image off your hdd while doing it. Anyways...ok let\'s begin this you fine
print thing /tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' />
print
print Press c to go to the \"Setup Instructions\" or press m for menu.
getkey
onkey c goto read4
onkey m goto start
; When no key found...
goto read0
;
:read4
cls
print
print                              \"Setup Instructions\"
print
print ATTN: BY THE WAY DON\'T USE THE QUOTATION MARKS \"\" WHEN TYPING THESE COMMANDS
print
print Step 0: Format a DOS partition. (press F4 NOW if you need help on this step.)
print Step 1: Put the cd in,reboot,main menu pops up and you choose key 3 or 4.
print Step 2: Loads the setup .img and you choose #2 to boot WITH cdrom support.
print Step 3: Now type the drive letter of your cdrom drive pluse a \":\" with it,
print hit enter, after that type \"cd win98\" if you want win98se or \"cd Winme\" if
print if you want winme and hit enter. (example: my cdrom drive is d: so I type d:)
print Step 4: Now type \"Setup\" then hit enter, and setup will begin!
print
print ATTN: WRITE IT!!! If win98se asks for a serial number...give it this to shut
print up. It shouldnt ask for it...but im not too sure if I did the auto-insert
print correct or not. I guess you will find out...won\'t ya. So WRITE THIS DOWN.
print Cd Key is (remember without quotes ;P) \"PWYQJ-2Q8HU-R7C9D-Y99MV-RWR2T\"
print
print Press C to continue or M for Menu.
getkey
onkey c goto read7
onkey f4 goto read5
onkey m goto start
; When no key found...
goto read4
;
:read5
cls
print
print                                \"Using Fdisk\"
print
print After you have chosen to start setup with cdrom support...just type \"A:\" hit
print enter, now type \"fdisk\" hit enter. Now just follow the steps and you will get
print to a point where either you can format your hdd or create a DOS partition.
print (Just to let you know if dont already, if you format the entire hdd...all
print data will be erased). So if you want to keep data...choose the option to
print create a DOS partition, which is option 1.
print
print Press M for menu or I for \"Setup Instructions\"
getkey
onkey m goto start
onkey i goto read4
; When no key found...
goto read5
;
:read7
cls
print
print                               \"Credits & Thanks\"
print
print OZ -for responding to our beating call and actually making a fabulous guide on
print     the win2kpro, win2kserver and win2k advanced server 3in1 OS cd. (extract
print     the files out of the .img\'s...not the .img\'s ;P.)
print     OZ\'s page with alot of usefull information on burning cd\'s in general.
print     http://ozaustralia.cjb.net (http://\"http://ozaustralia.cjb.net\")
print    -files on this cd that it is using right now from his page
print     ASRVSECT.DAT, WPROSECT.DAT, BOOTFIX.BIN, SETUPLDR.BIN, TXTSETUP.SIF
print
print Bart -who made a another wonderful page on dealing with development and alot
print       of stuff on multi-os bootable cd\'s, networking, and programming menu\'s.
print       http://www.nu2.nu (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu\").
print      -files on this cd that it is using right now from his page
print       diskemu1x.bin, diskemu.cmd
print
print Press any key to continue
getkey
goto read8
;
:read8
cls
print
print josetann -if not for his forum and how-to page this wouldn\'t even be here due
print           to I would of probably never even kept attempted this.
print           http://www.thetechguide.com (http://\"http://www.thetechguide.com\")
print          -the DOS based file \"cdimage.exe\" came from here (no great GUI yet)
print           cdimage.exe (Microsoft cd recording software with optimization ;P)
print           Below is the command line used to record this cd ;P...have fun!!!
print           x:cdimage -lW2KPSAS_SP2 -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -w1 -m
print           -bx:loader.bin x:ROOT W2KPSAS_SP2.iso
print
print Also Lotus Nymphaea for pointing me to the loader.bin and POLOJohnny for
print informing me on why win98 setup detected my cdrom drive as C:.
print
print Press any key to continue
getkey
goto chip
;
:chip
cls
print
print                                 \"Chip/Microdot/318\"
print
print And last but not least...chip for being the most flexible, coolest and straight
print forward man up on this net currently...luv and thanks ;P. Alright im outta
print here...type you later brew ha.
print
print Luicusxo 10/26/2001
print
print Press Any Key To Return To Menu ;P...THANKS FOR STAYING AND PLAYING../tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' />
getkey
goto start
;
:dev
cls
print
print ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print Bootable CD Development menu                         www.nu2.nu (Bart\'s Page)!
print ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print
print
print                     1) Run loader.bin
print                     2) Run diskem1x.bin
print                     /cool.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'B)\' /> Back to main menu
print
print Hit the key of choice:
:devkey
getkey
onkey 1 run loader.bin
onkey 2 run diskem1x.bin
onkey b goto start
; When no key found...
goto dev
;
:Pq
cls
print
print                   \"PowerQuest\'s Partition Magic 7.0 DOS Version\"
print
print This is not really the greatest by far...but can work instead of fdisk. If
print you choose to use this I am pretty sure you will have to start the win98se or
print the winme setup. To do this...right after the part where you chose to start
print setup with cdrom support (which is option 2 at that point),instead of
print performing the install by typing \"x:\" then \"cd win98\" (x=your cdrom drive
print letter/location)...you want to type \"x:\" then \"cd pq\". From there you are
print going to have a floppy disk on hand and copy over all files in the \"PQ\" folder
print to the formatted floppy. To do this type \"copy PQMAGIC.EXE a:\" and \"copy
print pqmagic.ovl a:\" and so on and so on. After you have copied over all the files
print you will want to then type \"a:\" hit enter, then type \"PQMAGIC\" hit enter.
print After that you will go through its own options (mabye...im not too sure ;P) I
print believe. If it doesnt work then sorry because I have not tested it and will
print not ever use that program again after a certain experience...but it did save
print me once...but then again that was the full version while in windows 2000.
print Personally I use Fdisk...it\'s free, seems to work everytime, and it\'s easy to
print use. But you could try PQ if you want...I just don\'t recommend it :-
print
print NOTE: you will have to boot from the floopy you just copied the files too /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />.
print NOTE2: your better off just not using this :-)...just create this after
print installing a OS...I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS AT ALL SO IT MIGHT NOT EVEN WORK!!!
print
print Press j for Menu or press B to start win98se/me setup
getkey
onkey b run CDBOOT.IMG
onkey j goto start
; When no key found...
goto pq
;
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Th3L0rD on November 02, 2001, 10:09:58 AM
Hi, I\'m trying to bulid an XP multicd. I have the \"couldn\'t find NTLDR\" problem. What should I edit exactly in each XPBoot.bin ?

Thanks !

TH
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 04, 2001, 06:05:29 AM
Space, win98 setup doesnt need anything more than a drive letter to the install dir and a fat16/32 partition on which to install. So the boot image of a dos floppy should be enough to boot and setup win98 from a cd. If it stop copying the files, then make sure that you can install win98 on that computer manually (from a command prompt). You can also experiment with command line switches for setup (do setup /? for a list and a short explanation).

I have just about given up on making a bootable 3in1 cd. I have wasted a lot of time on this and still no success. So I will go back to installing it 1-ver-1-cd way.

Hope this helps.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 04, 2001, 04:16:44 PM
I dont know why it stops copying the files..it just does...how would i edit where the setup should copy the files from on the disc???it just freeze\'s when it says copying setup....how does a win98 setup usually happen when you boot of a cd???about the install from cmd prompt im not too sure what you mean...i have done both the setup from the cd and copy over the files...no luck...i really need to figure out how exactly to make it keep copying files without just stopping...i think it is lookin for a directory to copy them from and being at this im not too sure what the orginal directory name was for the install cd i had (ive renamed it so many times now)..but i think it is win98...i think....somehow i think i have to edit something to make it look in the right directory..i have put the win98 in the root of the multi os cd...being that is how it is supposed to be...but it still stops copying files...when 2k uses the bootfix.bin to define where the install files are right...what file does win98se/me use???there is several .bin files i have looked at but i cant seem to figure out how to single out where the directory name is in the .bin files that holds the definition for copying.

Anyways why you giving up..???is the only error you are having the advanced server sp2 error???or is there something else...right now like i said i have win2kp/aserv and win98/me on the same cd...both the 2k\'s install without a problem..only the win98se/me is giving me crap...you know you could just keep the 3in1 cd...install win2kserver or pro...then upgrade to advn serv....right???as a matter a fact could you do it all unattended....just have it run the cmd right after the first bootup to upgrade to advan server...i know it would take longer but hey only a few minutes longer...btw does putting the winnt.sif file in the i386 dir really work for unattend install??i mean it couldnt work for the fully unattended because wouldnt it have to be in the a: dir for that right ???im going to try it i guess and see how it goes...this damn win98se/me crap is bogus though...so bogus
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 05, 2001, 01:44:13 AM
would somebody please repost a summary of the procedure in OZ\'z website?  He seems to have quit helping us so we are all at a loss on what to do.  I\'ve been looking at the chinese site but I can\'t find a link about multi-boot...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on November 05, 2001, 03:21:59 AM
Space, starting win98 setup is very simple. Just run the setup command from the dir containing the install files. You dont need to edit any files like those for win2k (no bootfix, no setupldr etc). In fact, I just copy the install files to a dir on the hd (you can name this dir anything you like) and run setup from there (installing from hd is much faster than installing from cd). So, you can create a directory on your cd, copy all the install files there (my cd has 107 files and size is 121 MB), create a bootable floppy, edit its autoexec.bat file to lauch setup.exe from the win98 install dir (make sure the cd drivers are launched from config.sys+autoexec.bat so that your cd gets assigned a drive letter; it is better to assign a drive letter explicity to the cd in mscdex line in autoexec.bat), then extract this boot image and use this as the boot image for diskemu1x.

As far as 3in1 is concerned, I think I will just try to install win2k without slipstreaming it first and then worry about slipstreaming later.

The link on making the 3in1 cd on wwwfox site is http://www.wwwfox.net/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=1160 (http://\"http://www.wwwfox.net/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=1160\")

Hope this helps.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 05, 2001, 03:28:53 AM
Oops, forgot the login before posting /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' /> Have turned on autologin now.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 05, 2001, 04:01:33 AM
Thanks for the link but I think it requires some kind of membership/payment to access..
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 05, 2001, 06:41:51 AM
Jojitb, this page is not protected. If you go to the link (thru a translator if you dont understand chinese), you will see a list of documents. Some are protected and some are not. Go to the link that says \"Windows 2000 3in1 SP2\" and this page will tell you how to make the 3in1. It is not as detailed as was on Oz\'s site (I ran it thru a translator, so the details might have been lost in the translation), but you can understand easily what is required.

A big hand to wwwfox for providing a link to his site.

A big (bigger) hand to Oz for providing the site (that was). It was wonderfully detailed. Too bad he had to close it down because he was flamed by nasty emails about the delay in posting the 2nd part of making the iso bootable.

P.S. I think the link to the actual page is http://wwwfox.net/3in1.htm (http://\"http://wwwfox.net/3in1.htm\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 05, 2001, 07:31:34 AM
Can someone help answer a couple of question for me?

1. How do I go about hiding the .bin and .dat files for this iso?

2.  What file or files am I missiong that would cause me to get the \"NTDETECT failed\" message for this 3in1 iso?

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on November 05, 2001, 08:16:18 AM
\"A big (bigger) hand to Oz for providing the site (that was). It was wonderfully detailed. Too bad he had to close it down because he was flamed by nasty emails about the delay in posting the 2nd part of making the iso bootable.\"

People need to understand sites like this are not for-profit.  Now, if people were paying Oz to make that how-to and he was lagging behind...yeah they could chew his ass a little.  But if they are paying $0 for his hard work...they don\'t have any reason to complain.  Make suggestions, maybe.  But definitely not flaming.

Just hope it wasn\'t anyone from here.  I wish he would have registered here so I could email him to apologize in case it was.  In either case we\'re sorry Oz, and hope everything\'s ok.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 05, 2001, 06:27:40 PM
Ok. Thanks Kfh!  I\'m reading the translated one right now and it seems less detailed than OZ\'s version. But I guess I have to liv with it.  I just wish somebody saved OZ\'s guide and then post it somewhere or maybe he could revive his site and just not bother with emails...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 05, 2001, 08:24:15 PM
Kfh thankyou..im not too sure on on the driver part but my cdrom is assigned a drive letter currently...im using the boot.img that was suggested at nu2.nu..bart\'s page i think that is... as far as Oz\'s 3in1 guide i got that....i dont know if i should post a link to it but in my opinion good work should not die just because the author did ;P

http://www.homestead.com/ludlowsucks/files/0z_3in1.zip (http://\"http://www.homestead.com/ludlowsucks/files/0z_3in1.zip\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 05, 2001, 08:42:09 PM
Hi Space!
Is the URL correct?  If you don\'t mind and if the file is less than 1MB couldyou send it to my Email Removed account?
mailtto:jojitbEmail Removed
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 06, 2001, 02:07:49 AM
Hurrah. 2 of my most frustrating problems are solved:

1) ntdetect failed ...
    If you are getting this, then you dont have the correct setupldr.bin in the root asrv, wpro and wsrv dirs. Follow oz/wwwfox instructions.

2) insert sp2 cd-rom ....
   Now this was interesting. Did some search on the ms site and came across a kb article that mentioned it (they describe it as the setup process loosing the cd-rom drive letter). Now the circumstances are different in the kb article, but it got me thinking. I have an ide cdrom and a scsi cdwriter. I was booting off the ide cdrom, so maybe the scsi cdwriter was confusing the brain dead win2k setup. So I removed the writer from the scsi chain and relaunched setup. VOILA, no problems.

Time to create my own 10in1 cd /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

Space, how is win98 setup going? If you want, I can send you the boot sector off my win98se cd.

Sic1Nine, you can hide files by ticking off the hidden checkbox from the file\'s properties sheet (on the context menu).
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 06, 2001, 06:35:27 AM
Thanks Kfh.. I was attempting this build from memory since I don\'t have access to Oz\'s site anymore.  Copied the setupldr.bin from the I386\'s of the respective 2k versions to the root ASRV/PRO/WSRV folders and retried the process but still got the same error msg.  Would you also be able to email me that *.zip file that you posted?  sic1nineEmail Removed.  Couldn\'t get it from the link \"We can\'t find the page\" error pops up ;-(   Also tried following the translated version of the wwwfox.net which suggests that the setupldr.bin and txtsetup.sif files be edited for the respective cd folder structures of the respective versions of w2k.. I don\'t recall Oz\'s site mentioning that but did it anyways and .. Lo and behold.. the blue screen.. Installaion blue that is....Joy... ;-)  But alittle ways into the installation got the BSOD screen ;-(  Back to the drawing board.. Going to copy the edited *.sif and *.bin files to the I386 directories of the  respective w2k versions to see if that does it.  Houston we have a problem... I get to where the files are being copied to the hd of the test pc but as soon as it gets to the part where \"Windows 2000 is starting\" I get a BSOD display (*** Stop: 0x0000006B ...yada yada ...Process1_Initialization _Failed).  Any suggestions?  thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 06, 2001, 07:08:37 AM
The reason you dont edit setupldr.bin and txtsetup.sif files in the oz version is because he has already done the change for you. It is a trivial change in the sif file (it is a txt file) and only a little bit more for setupldr.bin (because it is a binary file).

If you got BSOD, then it is probably because setupldr.bin is corrupted. Use a binary editor to carry out the edits in this one.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 06, 2001, 07:36:15 AM
Before Oz took the 3-1 guide down I Downloaded a copy, if anyone would like I could upload it and place a link to it in here /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

PS has anyone incorporated win 9x into the cd yet, if so how?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 06, 2001, 07:46:53 AM
Did you know if you use a evaluation boot disk to start an instalation of 2k you will get the evaluation version installed,  I found this out when I could only find my win 2k pro evaluation boot disks, I had the i386 folder on my hdd, when I made the 3-1 cd and tested on a \"virtual pc\" (trial ver) it installed ok but was the evaluation version. so I did a bigger search found the full bootdisks, remade the iso and it worked as the full ver, I wonder what would happen if I used the full bootdisks and a evaluation i386 folder?


I think I\'m gonna play with that a bit /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 06, 2001, 08:19:29 AM
The_Flames
Could you post it?  I really want to get a copy, please....
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 06, 2001, 03:15:22 PM
Kfh.. I used the proggie Ultraedit to edit those files.. Not sure how it may have gotten corrupted but I\'ll retry again
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 06, 2001, 06:02:57 PM
You will find the guide on my site now

my site is \"http://guy.ipfox.com\"
 (http://\"http://guy.ipfox.com\")


and people take note, IF I get flamed about the information it will disappear.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on November 06, 2001, 06:14:07 PM
TheFlames.

It\'s really good to see you respect my copyright on the page, also at the very top I have written,

\"However this manual still works 100% OK, one more thing, don\'t steal this manual, it has taken a long time to make!\"

Very nice indeed.

As for the second part of the manual, it was actually written and ready to opload when the abusive emails arrived, so no way I\'ll EVER up it, ESPECIALLY when someone like you steal my work.

Oz
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 06, 2001, 06:45:45 PM
Oz dont be greedy with information...especially the kind you spent alot of time and effort on creating. I understand you point that is why i was not too sure if i should set a link to it...but as you can see above in my last post i did. However, i didnt not and will not use it to make a webpage...but it saves time from downloading my .zip file which is the same thing as a webpage anyhow. If you dont want your information to be shared...the dont show it to anybody. You should of taxed the page for people to use with a paypal acct. or something. Or better yet make someone actually purchase a license agreement. You think im serious about that Oz??...i hope not because that is ridiculous. Anyways its out there and i would like to say thankyou. Thankyou for putting it up, it was and still is the only way i know how to do it. So all in all your a good guy ;P...no matter what.

Kfh...no luck on the win98se install yet...im not too sure on what yoiu meant by editing the autoexact.bat file. I do that already on win2k but not during installation. Would i make it like this??

[autoexec.bat]
copy W:win98 X:win98
run x:win98setup /is

???or something like that???  will this pause and wait for the copying to complete?? Only problem is i cant control what drive letter the cdrom takes on can i?? currently since i have no dos/fat partition it takes on the role of C:...you did mention something about making sure it takes on a drive letter but can i control which lettter???? also what is a good binary code editor??? I dont know much about programming besides names... is VB6, C++, Java a good one???
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 06, 2001, 08:26:14 PM
Oz

IF you realy want me to remove the page from my site I will !!!

I didnt want to offend you, I just saw you site removed and other people asking about the information, and I thaught there wouldnt be any harm in sharing the information, If you had registered your handle on the forums I would of mail you first to asked if you objected!

If I were gonna steel the information I would of clamed it as my own, removed any trace of your involment. Insted It was a update of the links( fixed links are not the best way to work from by the way) and added a few links. If you plan to restart your forum, or site, I would add links to them!

PS the information has only been up about 4 hrs !!!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 06, 2001, 09:00:22 PM
OZ
I would like to thank you for creating a great how-to.  I\'m just a lttle sad that you took it down just because of some assholes who do  not appreciate your work.  

I understand that you have the right to post or not to post your work but for people like us who want to, how can we learn if people do not give information freely? I really thank The_Flames for posting it again for us who were too late to get it from your site.  I know that if you ever decide to put it up again, he would gladly remove it from his site...

Also, if you do not care to post the 2nd part, could you find it in your heart to give me a copy?  i will not post it to the web, nor will I send it to anybody else, unless you ask me...  

mail:jojitbEmail Removed

Regards,
Jojitb
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 07, 2001, 01:37:21 AM
Oz, give the guy (flames) a break. The link clearly attributes the page to you. Blame those who sent those stupid emails to you.

For all those who want to make this cd bootable, there is another way to make it so. Read LotusNymphea\'s post in this thread. It is extermely easy and you dont need to edit any binary files. If you want more info, just search for \"bootable cd\" on google and you will be amazed by all the links returned.

Space, I dont think you have to copy all win98 install files to the hd before installing; it can install from cd just fine (but a little slower). You would need something like this in autoexec.bat:

cd win98set
setup

The above assumes that the install files are in the win98set dir. You probably dont need the cd drive letter because the win98 boot image should leave you in the root dir of the cd.

I use ultraedit (also recommended by Oz) as the binary editor.

Good luck.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on November 07, 2001, 02:28:40 AM
It was Oz\'s work, he can do whatever he wants to with it.  Now if someone studied it, and came up with their own how-to, that would be ok.

That said, I would like it if he let it stay up somewhere, with all the recognition but none of the grief.  What I would also like would be to take all this info we have from all these separate places and make some of our own how-to\'s.  Perhaps one just for a multi-boot Windows CD (we could provide all the files we could to make the CD work in different configurations, i.e. three Win2k installs, and Win98...three Win2k\'s and WinMe, one Win2k and one Win98...you get the picture).  And also a how-to on doing this yourself, complete with screenshots, links to programs needed, etc.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 07, 2001, 05:06:19 AM
Josetann, this is a good idea. I would be willing to help out in this.

I think I have figured out the 2nd part of Oz\'s way, but I think that the other way (by LotusNymphea) is much better and definitely much simpler. Again, this is not to detract anything from Oz\'s efforts (after all, the \"other way\" picks up where Oz\'s 1st part ends). In all my searching on the web, I have not come across such detailed and clearer instructions as those contained in Oz\'s way. By the way, those who explored Oz\'s web site would definitely miss those other areas as well. Perhaps we can all somehow convince Oz to re-up his site.

Oz, I have visited your forum also, and you complained that only 2 people are interested in 3in1 cd. I think that this thread here is ample proof that a lot more people than that are interested in it and most of them are perfectly reasonable. In this thread, you have been credited the most with creating the 3in1 cd. So many accolades, ton loads of thanks. I dont know how else can one appreciate your work more?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 07, 2001, 05:34:23 AM
As Oz Has requested that the page to be removed in an almost polite metherd I will remove his page.

I feel sory for OZ that he feel that he has to remove the information from every web site but as he has done all the hard work I wont complain.

The site will be removed in 6-8 hrs time when I\'m out of Univeristy and I can get online.

my site has a rule, if I made the content it\'s in the main window or it in it\'s own window.

PS defination of steal from dictionary.com
To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
To get or effect surreptitiously or artfully: steal a kiss; stole the ball from an opponent.
To move, carry, or place surreptitiously.
To draw attention unexpectedly in (an entertainment), especially by being the outstanding performer: The magician\'s assistant stole the show with her comic antics.
Baseball. To advance safely to (another base) during the delivery of a pitch, without the aid of a base hit, walk, passed ball, or wild pitch.



the worst that i did was research without enough inclooded sources as all of those relate to phyisical things!!!!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 07, 2001, 07:25:05 AM
I have had an Idea

If I can rember my batch programming skills I could make an batch file that could do all the required tasks to create the cd,
then I could post that on my site, people would be able to create the 3-1 cd, Oz would have his work removed, I can put the credit for the information to him, and some were somebody may be happy( I hope ).
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 07, 2001, 07:29:57 AM
I have had an Idea

If I can rember my batch programming skills I could make an batch file that could do all the required tasks to create the cd,
then I could post that on my site, people would be able to create the 3-1 cd, Oz would have his work removed, I can put the credit for the information to him, and some were somebody may be happy( I hope ).

Dont you just love people who share information untill they get pissed off, then they tell everyone else to dont share that is a bad thing to do I own the information I was giving away /wink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\';)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on November 07, 2001, 08:05:19 AM
The_Flames:  the information was free, but the actual how-to he wrote was his property.  Taking his info, and building something upon that (whether it\'s another how-to, a program, whatever) would be fine.  Posting it word for word, claiming it to be your own, would be wrong.  Putting it up without permission but giving credit...that is iffy.  I think if you tried contacting him (I was going to, but no profile here and no email link on his site...didn\'t think he\'d be hanging around here else i would have just posted here) and failed, and put it up unless he requested it to be taken down, would be acceptable.

Oz:  we appreciate your work.  The_Flames meant no disrespect and I believe he gave you credit (I did not check out the link yet, it\'s probably gone now anyways).  Just take a deep breath, pet a cat (or dog if you\'re a dog person), watch some TiVo, relax...and worry about it when you\'re ready.  I think having your guide up, with full credit, would be acceptable.  It\'s your call though.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on November 07, 2001, 12:39:30 PM
To Oz: First I would like to apologize for all the problems you are having.  I work for a school district where a large number of teachers ask the same question over and over.  I know how it goes, I think.  Maybe your situation is different.  Please remember that you have the knowledge and skill we are trying to emulate.  We are not trying to pester you!  We are trying to learn from you!  I had a chance to review your work on The_Flames site for a few hours.  It was incredibly helpful to me.  I understood while reading it that it was your work and was never under the impression anyone else was trying to steal your work.  I thought it was presented well and responsibly in that fashion.  I just want to point out that are still a large number of people looking for you knowledge and would greatly appreciate your help.

To The_Flames: Thank you for continuing to work on this project.  Considering all the messages being sent back and forth it would be easy to simply leave the problem to someone else.  Hopefully you understand that that all of us still reading are eternally in your debt.

Thanks,
Twinkie_Cream
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 07, 2001, 03:15:45 PM
I\'m glad that the infomation was helpfull for somebody, to say it was up for less than a day.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 07, 2001, 08:59:32 PM
well i messed the last link up if you tried it..sorry. i really wasnt worried about fixing it since the flames immediately afterwards posted his site with the info...after all that was a better idea by far far. but see, i dont see eye to eye with Oz. I believe what has been made to help others...should and will always help them regardless of one\'s patitence with the less patitent. So here is another WORKING link that has all the files and i even included the shareware Winimage. The links on the page dont work but you will be able to figure out what is what by right clicking and so forth. Sorry to whoever thinks that this shouldnt be shared no more...I just see otherwise and cant imagine why you would rationally think that anyways.

http://montym.homestead.com/files/Oz_3in1.zip (http://\"http://montym.homestead.com/files/Oz_3in1.zip\")



type you later
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 07, 2001, 09:06:19 PM
O yeh i forgot. If the second part of the How-to that caused people to foam at the mouth was about multibootable images...then they must have really been rabid. Because the indo that Lotus Nymphaea posted very soon afterwards would of cleared that up for them. Since that is a method that works...i think :-/  (damn win98se ;P)..anyways that it\'s for me on this one...if you got another suggestion Kfh please post it. Also could you post that link that you found the info on Microsoft\'s page for clearing up that problem. Type you later brew ha\'s
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 08, 2001, 02:40:16 AM
I\'m happy to say that I copied OZ\'s manual from theFlames\' link and it worked!  I now have a bootable 3-in-1 disk.  Thanks to OZ, wwwfox, Flames, Lotus, kfh, space, josetann, and everybody here in this forum...  

Doesn\'t it feel good to finally achieve what you been wanting to do?  I feel great!  I wish that we could all share this knowledge to everyone who wants to know how about without any conditions.  The net is about sharing knowledge and sharing it freely...

Now I want to see if I could make an NT/2K/XP disk.  Does anybody thinks this is possible?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 08, 2001, 03:30:40 AM
Space, the link is to kb article q228852:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/ar...RCH&SPR=WIN2000 (http://\"http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q228/8/52.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=nt5inf.cat&rnk=1&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=WIN2000\")

I would be making my own win2k (all 3 versions) + win98se boot cd and will let you know how it comes along.

Kfh.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Xitius on November 08, 2001, 10:54:13 AM
Hey
My Name is Stian Hansen from Norway, i wonder if anyone have made a cd with win2k pro/server/advanced, multiboot ?
or win2k/win98 ?
if you have send me a mail, i need it..
[email protected]
/me Is a systemadmin
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: jojitb on November 10, 2001, 08:09:49 AM
Hi!
I have been able to make a 3-in-1 cd and made it bootable.  I just followed all the instructions in Oz\'s tutorial and did some modifications as stated in some of the threads here..
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 12, 2001, 04:02:42 PM
Even though I\'ve been successfull following all if the initial instructions that was posted by Oz and amended by Lotus Nymphaea and created the 3in1 iso I have yet to successfully install the chosen OS to a workstation from this disk without getting the BSOD that I noted in an earlier post.  The error message I kept getting was *** Stop: 0x0000006B ( 0xC00000xx, 0x????????, 0x????????) PROCESS1_INITIALIZATION_FAILED.  Not sure which file/files would cause this error but I believe once I get past this error things should be fine.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 12, 2001, 07:48:22 PM
I beleve that error is caused by ethier the bootfix.bin file been copied into the directorys were the floppy disk  images were extraceted to, or spaces at end of the lines within the cmd file or having blank lines, I found elimitating all of these factors well overcome that error.

the other way is to take no notice of the error and repeat the number option that you wanted to carry out
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 13, 2001, 04:43:58 AM
I thought I\'d give it one more try with The Flames recommendations.  Once again I\'ve got the BSOD.

At least I got the cdimage switches memorized now and can prolly do that part in my sleep.  And also I can now give the exact error I\'ve been receiving during the installation process:

*** Stop: 0x0000006B (0xC000003A,0X00000002,0X00000000,0x00000000) Process1_Initialization_Failed

Once I get this message however the only option for me is to power down and retry but I\'ve done that so many times already.  

This is a good problem.

So close yet still so far away ;-(
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 13, 2001, 07:50:36 AM
I Use virtual PC from http://www.connectix.com/ (http://\"http://www.connectix.com/\") to test my iso images, you just start the prog secelt the iso as the cdrom and off you go /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 13, 2001, 10:59:10 AM
Ok.. I\'m about to toss in the towel on this one.. but before I do, what folder is it again that is supposed to be under the Root/ASRV,WPRO and WSRV folders?  
According to the notes I did take before Oz\'s site went down there is supposed to be 107 files and 1 folder with 2 files in it.  I had the 107 files but I don\'t know what folder I\'m supposed to be looking at with 2 additional files in it.

Thanks,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 13, 2001, 01:28:46 PM
they are the folders with the boot floppys extracted to, and the 2 files within each zip, should join the files from boot floppie images!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2001, 02:27:22 PM
So if I understand you right.. the folders you\'re refering to is ASRV,WPRO and WSRV which should contain the extracted boot floppy files and those contained in the zip.  There are no subfolders within those listed above?.... This is exactly what I have and it doesn\'t work for me.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 13, 2001, 07:38:36 PM
If you see the 107 files and no folder with 2 files in it you either are doing it wrong or forgot to choose extract with pathname or whatever. you take the 4.img\'s that it comes with, the ones you are supposed to put on 4 floopies, and extract all files out of each of the 4.img\'s WITH FULL PATHNAME. You do this to all the .img\'s with each os and put them in the 3 folders you are naming now.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 13, 2001, 09:47:41 PM
Ok .. I\'ve found my problem.. Lesson Learned: Shortcuts can and will get you in trouble when you least expect it.  It appears that you can right click the *.img file and choose \"Extract\" from the menu options and even though you select \"Extract with pathname\" you must also make sure that on the CDBOOT4.img, you select all of the files and folders.  Or you\'ll do like I did, right click the file choose Extract, select Extract with pathname, choose the directory for the extraction then go to the next disk and repeat the process.  This method works only for the files in the root of the *.img file however any folders that are also in those files will be left out of the extraction. When all of the files are completely extracted you should also have the \"System32\" directory with the additional 2 files in the extraction directory that contains the 107 files.  Now I can install everything without any Stop error messages.

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Rod on November 14, 2001, 03:59:42 PM
Why the \"cdimage_alpha\" could\'t able to use the switch  \" t \" to custom the date and time of the source file(s) as MS\'s  CDIMAGE.EXE
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on November 14, 2001, 08:04:07 PM
I didn\'t want it to clutter the gui with every single possible switch.  The backend.exe is the ms cdimage, you can use that if you know how.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 15, 2001, 06:31:51 PM
if you use cdimage.exe from the command prompt you can use the following command you will get a text file with all the switches contained within it /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

cdimage >cdimage.txt
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: ac3 on November 18, 2001, 07:45:18 AM
I don´t know OZ:) and have never heard of is site, but i´ve heard is was a good source for multiboot cd´s:).

I´ve my own way to create such cd´s, i made my firs multibootcd 2 years back wich was quit complicated back then. Now I´m using diskemu.bin
Actually is is quite simple; you just have to do some find-replace stuff with a hexeditor (i prefer ultraedit).  This is the way OZ uses too.

here is my .cmd file

:start
cls
print
print ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print                         Rescue Multiple Boot
print                         Pieter G   ac3 v1.02a
print                         [email protected]
print                         do not try this with less than 32MB ram
print ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print
print
print                         1)   Dos 6.22 + ntfs r+w access and tools
print                         2)   Ontrack Easyrecovery 5.11 (not working yet)
print                         3)   ERD Commander 2000 2.1
print                         4)   Disk Commander 1.02
print                         5)   Paragon [censored] Manager 5.0
print
print                         i)   Install Win2000 PRO SP2 Integrated
print
print                         q)   Quit to command prompt
print                         r)   Reboot
print                         Esc) Boot first harddisk
print
print                         Hit the key of your choice:

:mainkey
; timeout is 20 seconds, default key is escape
getkey 20 esc
onkey 1 goto dos
onkey 2 goto ontrack
onkey 3 goto erd
onkey 4 goto dc
onkey 5 goto parpm
onkey i goto win2k
onkey q quit
onkey r reboot
onkey esc boot 80
; When no key found...
goto mainkey
;
:parpm
print Loading Paragon [censored] Manager 5.0
run parpm.img
getkey
goto start
;
:dos
print Loading Dos 6.22
run dos.img
getkey
goto start
;
:ontrack
print Loading Ontrack Easyrecovery 5.11
run ontrack.img
getkey
goto start
;
:Dc
print Loading Disk Commander 1.02
run dco.bin
getkey
goto start
;
:erd
print Loading ERD Commander 2000 2.1
run erd.bin
getkey
goto start
;
:win2k
print Loading Win2000 PRO SP2 Integrated
run w2ksect.dat
getkey
goto start
;
EOF

and my disklayout:

/
dw
i385
i386
i387
Install
Pqdi
Pqpm
Tools
Autorun.inf
Cdrom_ip.5
Cdrom_nt.5
Cdromsp2.tst
Dco.bin
Diskemu.cmd
Dos.img
Erd.bin
Ntoskrnl.exe
Ontrack.img
Parpm.img
Read1st.txt
Readme.doc
Setup.exe
Spnotes.htm
W2ksect.dat
W2ksp2.exe (for updating existing 2k installations



my  dos menu:

[menu]
menuitem=CD, with CD-ROM support + tools
menuitem=NOCD, no CD-ROM support basic
menuitem=PQPM, Partition Magic 7.0 PRO
menuitem=PQDI, Drive Image 5.0 PRO   = deploy center
menuitem=DW, Paragon Disk Wiper 5.0
menuitem=HELP, View the Help file
menudefault=CD,30
menucolor=1,0

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[PQPM]
include=CD

[PQDI]
include=CD

[DW]
include=CD


[HELP]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[COMMON]
files=10
buffers=10
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 16384
lastdrive=z
install=keyb.com be,,keyboard.sys


there are a lot of recovery tools that need to be added:)
but it works great now.

the tools are copied to a ramdrive only when you use them
includes  sidchanger, diskedit ndd,fdisk,…and about 20 others
accessible from the command line

also a linuxdistribution has to be added for low level hd tools:)


I´m willing to put up a website with info so everyone could create a multybootcd with the tools and or op systems the want

If someone wants to contribute building the site and has additional info and or recovery knowhow feel free to email me.

Please do not mail me with stupid questions:(

I also want to write a guide on how filesystems work and how to recover data from them with some automated tools and with a diskeditor:)


[email protected]
Pieter Geens
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Mev on November 19, 2001, 08:01:24 AM
Hi Guys!

This link might be useful for you guys ...
http://wwwfox.net/order.htm (http://\"http://wwwfox.net/order.htm\")

It has no any information about how to create bootable CD ... it however has some images about what they\'ve already done.

Bye
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 20, 2001, 08:41:45 AM
I\'ve made a very basic Howto based on OZ\'s information on my website  (http://\"http://guy.ipfox.com\")

 Alternitive URL  (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/the_flames/\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: DemonAce on November 20, 2001, 12:52:35 PM
It seems you site is down?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Chainsaw77 on November 21, 2001, 04:19:42 PM
Can you check the link to the Win2K Pro boot image file (wpro.zip).  It\'s a broken link right now.  

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: MuffinAss on November 21, 2001, 05:41:00 PM
Check the attachment to my post.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 21, 2001, 10:39:37 PM
those file arnt the ones that are being refered to, that is more likely the root\'s totla files
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2001, 11:06:04 PM
I believe it\'s the same file you want, just a different zip file name, it has the boot.bin and the others in it. If that\'s not want you want then I misunderstood, just tryin\' to help.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 22, 2001, 02:18:32 PM
the file in question has only 2 files within, they modify the extracted boot floppies to point to the correct place

the link is repaired, some font code had crept into the link /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: christmille on November 23, 2001, 02:13:14 PM
How to use a regular win98 startup disk for the disk image to make the cd(that allows me an option to boot from 98 or 2000) bootable?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: rdc on November 23, 2001, 03:24:29 PM
A bootdisk from winme or win98 as boot image , can be used and gives you 3 boot choices without cdrom , with cdrom support ,and a clean boot
It\'s usefull to make a dos program on cdrom bootable , as you can add command lines in the autexec.bat . Probably win98  or win me , setup too
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: christmille on November 23, 2001, 03:33:17 PM
What i mean is that I don\'t know how to edit the autoexec.bat to make it doable to install Win98 on a CD?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 24, 2001, 02:52:57 PM
You will need to edit both the config.sys and autoexec.bat files to enable you to launch the setup.exe for your 98 installation.  Attached is the autoexec.bat that I\'m using to launch 98SE in my 5in1 disk containing W2K Pro/Server/AdvServer/98SE and ME.  The config.sys file will need a menu option that will be referenced by the autoexec.bat to kick this off. In this case it is \"SETUP_CD\".
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 24, 2001, 02:54:00 PM
Here is the config.sys file also for the previous post.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: christmille on November 24, 2001, 10:31:02 PM
Thanks a loooooot!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 24, 2001, 11:03:36 PM
HOw do you get the boot menu to enable the 9x booting to do the install? is is a floppy image or something diffrent?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 25, 2001, 12:06:51 AM
To boot to the 9x menu option, I created an *.img file from the 9x boot floppy using winimage.  First step is to make sure that the image references the correct folder from the cd for the correct setup file using the autoexec.bat and config.sys files as a guide.  IE: (UENGLISHWin98SE).  Then when all checks good, drop the *.img file in the \"Root\" folder, modify the diskemu.cmd to point to this *.img file for the 9x install and create the iso as before. You may want to hide the *.img as was done with the *.dat and *.bin files.  You can verify the results using the proggie that The_Flames pointed out in the earlier post Virtual PC http://www.connectix.com (http://\"http://www.connectix.com\").  This proggie works great.  

PS.  The *.img file above could have also been named as a *.bin file as well using winimage.  Just ensure that it boots to the correct installation folder.

Thanks again Flames ;-)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: christmille on November 25, 2001, 06:39:11 AM
How do you make the others boot?Using diskemu?
How to treat those files? Aren\'t they too large in size than the capacity of a CD?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 25, 2001, 09:25:00 AM
Cheers for that, I couldnt workout how to get it booting for 9x, now i\'ll go and have a little play /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 25, 2001, 10:07:15 AM
As far as making the others boot you will have to follow the examples given by the earlier posts specifically look for \"Lotus Nympheas\" post and Reference \"Space Between\" if you want to do a multi boot with the 9x options and how they modified the diskemu.cmd to tailor it with their choices.

As far as the capacity of my 5in1 your right .  It is too large for a CD.  The only option there is, is to use a DVD (a nice Christmas wish) or do what I did, trim the fat to only what you will need to make it fit on the CD. ;-)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 25, 2001, 08:15:00 PM
Ok that makes sense...but i still run into the same problem. I load the .img that is in the root...do the normal win98 boot disk options...and when it gets to the point where it says only three lines in the top left corner...about copying files to prepare for setup...the cd is lost. It just stops spinnning and nothing happens after that. The drive letter is getting lost or something due to when i boot up i dont have a dos/fat partition on any hdd. I have 4 hdd\'s and 9 partitions total...and all are NTFS. So when i boot off the 9x.img it thinks the cdrom is C: because it cannot recongize any drive. Ok well i have also run fdisk before this and partitioned a fat/dos partition to install win9x...when i do this i still have to type

copy win09 c:win98

and run setup off the c:...and when i do that it says something about a illegal procedure...it then cancels setup. I have also chosen to include some switch i cant remember exactly -? that ignores this error that it gives me here that should allow me to proceed..but it still cancels install.

I\'m just wondering has anybody got to install win98/me with this multibootable just like it would be if you use your orginal win98/me cd.  I mean do you choose whatever # option in diskemu to start setup of win98/me and the gui starts and everything runs smooth.??? ;P..sorry im alittle tired. I just want to know if i can just press 4 buttons or less and have the 9x/me install fly without a hitch and how the heck you got this to work.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 25, 2001, 08:25:12 PM
sic just downloaded your .bat...

                                                                 
:AUTOSETUP                                                        
cls
echo Now starting the Windows 98 Second Edition Installation Option
echo for this computer.
echo.
echo Please standby.....
path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE
OEMSETUP.EXE /K \"/IE /NF\"


what exactly does the below mean...and does %CDROM% take care of the assignment of a drive letter to the cdrom ???
path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE
OEMSETUP.EXE /K \"/IE /NF\"
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 25, 2001, 08:56:42 PM
I\'m sorry honestly for another ? so quick...but...

i just wan to know what you edited in the .sys. i see that when you the option SETUP_CD is chosen off the config.sys file it loads this below
[SETUP_CD]
include=CD
what does that do???anyways in conclusion i am under the impression that line path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE    %RAMD%utilize\'s ramdisk somehow not too sure....then %CDROM% makes the setup use the cdrom drive regardless of its drive letter...am i close?? ok before i go posting another post can i just edit the following in your...actually i shouldnt have to edit the config.sys right???just replace the existing body in autoexec.bat with a new one right??anyways

auto.bat
edit 1: make sure that that this file is referenced correctly to config.sys by editing the following if you currently have a config.sys with your files...otherwise use\'s yours ;-P.
echo.                                                            
IF \"%config%\"==\"SETUP_CD\" goto AUTOSETUP                          
GOTO QUIT
edit 2: make sure the path is set to the correct folder onr your cd and make sure the setup.exe file name is the same aswell in the following lines in this..
:AUTOSETUP                                                        
cls
echo Now starting the Windows 98 Second Edition Installation Option
echo for this computer.
echo.
echo Please standby.....
path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE
OEMSETUP.EXE /K \"/IE /NF\"                                        
echo.                                                            
goto QUIT  

i guess one could just use your 2 files aslong as all paths/names where the same and create the .img right??o yeh is there a way i can use a different file name for config.sys than config.sys or is this just how Crum allows it to be ;-P..(Crum...Conan)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 25, 2001, 11:22:24 PM
Spaces,  In regards to your last question of your first post, yes, after going thru heck trying to get the right syntax for the boot disk to recognize the right path.. another story (even I had probs).. using the autoexec and config.sys files I had posted.  I finally was able to install from the multiboot (5in1) disk I had created from start to finish without a hitch.

The image works as you,ve mentioned all you would need to do is modify the autoexec.bat to fit your 9x choice and its setup.exe file (in the autoexec file I posted its using the oemsetup but this should also work for the setup.exe as well)

I borrowed the lines from a winme bootdisk that I think had better code and uses the ramdrive \"%RAMD%\" to store the extra files that are compressed in an \"ebd.cab\" file I thought that would be useful for debugging and such.  This would be where you\'d find the files like edit, sys, format, etc etc.

As far as the config.sys file.. the line [Setup_CD] is the menu option that you\'d select if you wanted to install the 9x OS from the CD.. Note:(This could be anything as long as it is reference in the autoexec.bat file).

The line \"include=CD\" references the menu option for CD support [CD].  This was used instead of retyping the same lines that the [CD] menu already had.  A shortcut if you will from typers cramps ;-)

What I edited was the include=CD for the [Setup_CD] menu since that wasn\'t there initially and the line in the [CD] section that didn\'t have a \"device=himem.sys\" line that was giving me grief when I tried using the ramdrive statements.
I mod\'d an original 98 bootdisk to get this to work for me.

As far as using the supplied 2 files and creating the image.. sure go ahead.. I hope that it would help anyone trying to do what I just did.. ;-)

As far as using a different filename other than config.sys.. why?  That is what helps make this bootdisk work.. Old DOS days always had a autoexec.bat and config.sys file.. Not sure how you would do it any other way.. Unless you wanted to try a customized *.dat file and I\'m not to sure if you would want to go there. ;-)

PS. 1  Also I\'ve found that I could fit all of the files for the 3 W2K versions, the directories win98 and the winme on one disk only if I used a 99min blank (870mb).. total image size for me was 757mb if anyone wanted to know. ;-)

PS  2.  If you want to make your 9x install with the auto inserted PIDKEY, all you have to do is create an MSBatch.inf file with the right format and drop it into the UENGLISHWin9x folder.  I\'ll post that in abit.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 26, 2001, 12:00:24 AM
MSBatch.inf sample.  Just substitute with the correct PIDKEY values.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 26, 2001, 04:16:13 PM
Thanks i am going to go ahead and use your\'s...already have actually ;P... You mentioned customize .dat files...now is that what some of us downloaded off of Oz\'s website. I mean that is what you start the install off of is the .dat file. Can I make one of these for all Os\'s...but most importantly Winxp. I have lossed alittle data from all Os\'s but i have manage to cram XPpro,2Kpro,2ka.ser,winME and win98se all on a 99cdr....but obviously i have not a clue on how to create/edit a .dat file to make it work like the ones that Oz posted. Are they that difficult to make???If so why because when i open up the .dat file..in notepad of course, no real hex editor, the .dat file is really really small.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 26, 2001, 04:36:13 PM
from what I have read the dat files are only needed for NT based OS\'s from dos based os\'s a img file of the bootfloppy is all what is needed
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 27, 2001, 05:25:17 PM
Yeh makes sense...but how do we create a .dat file for XP???
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on November 28, 2001, 06:06:23 AM
Not sure what steps are required to create a *.dat file for XP but Bart\'s site http://www.nu2.nu (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu\") already has one posted on his site if you really want one.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 28, 2001, 07:01:47 AM
Space, the boot image of winxp is the same as for win2k. You can take any of the 3 .dat from oz\'s site and use it to boot winxp. Just make sure you edit the .dat (using a binary editor) to point to the root level dir of winxp (i havent made an xp boot cd myself, but I know that you can use the win2k .dat for xp and for nt also).

If you look at the 3 .dat from oz\'s site in a binary editor, you will see that they are all the same except for where they point to for the root level dir. This file is nothing more than a pointer to where the acutal boot files are located. For example, in asrvsect.dat, you can replace asrv with xsrv and change the root level folder asrv to xsrv and your cd will still work perfectly (again use a binary editor for this).
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Kfh on November 29, 2001, 01:52:09 AM
Found these 2 links on microsoft\'s site which will be useful for those making xp boot cds:

   - Windows XP Home Edition boot disks--
   http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release...releaseid=33290 (http://\"http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=33290\")
   - Windows XP Professional boot disks--
   http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release...releaseid=33291 (http://\"http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?releaseid=33291\")

My guess is that you would require the files from these boot disk in the root level dirs (equivalent to asrv, wsrv and wpro dirs in win2k boot cd), but other changes might be required if you are making a multi-cd.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 29, 2001, 03:53:03 AM
after downloading these files run it but dont make the disks, just goto your temp dir and copy the .img files, then extract the files from those files to create the needed folder as in 2k
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: MuffinAss on November 29, 2001, 04:29:29 PM
Has anyone actually put together a guide on how to do this? I\'ve just started following the threads on this topic, so I apologize for not knowing. I\'m asking because I want to make only make one install CD with Windows 2000 Pro & Server only with SP2. I know how to slipstream SP2 into both, but as far as putting both on 1 cd and being able to install either, I\'m not too sure about, and the threads in this discussion are quite long and at times confusing, too. A guide of some sort would come in very handy if anyone has ever put time into doing that.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on November 30, 2001, 08:25:47 AM
try my site  click here  (http://\"http://guy.ipfox.com\")
read all the pages within this thread
and keep on trying /wink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\';)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie_Cream on November 30, 2001, 01:58:40 PM
I have started a .pdf document for a howto that I was going to publish.  Nothing original.  Mainly trying to consalidate the info from Oz, The_Flames, this thread and Bart\'s site.  So far not even halfway through yet.  I have no programming exp. so I am trying to learn the in\'s and out\'s.  Don\'t want to write about something I don\'t know yet.  My document will focus on how-to make a Win2K Sp2, Win NT 4.0 Wkst, Win98 and Win95 multiboot CD.  I will post only after I succesfully make one myself.  If your looking for all 2K versions check out The_Flames site.  My cd will auto insert the serial if possable.  So far the 2K Pro and both 9x installs will auto insert the serial but have yet to get it to work on NT 4.0 though.  Anyone know if winnt.sif will work on NT 4.0 Workstation?

Twinkie_Cream
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: MuffinAss on November 30, 2001, 06:44:02 PM
Okay, I\'m gonna keep tryin\' to follow info from this site and yours. Thanks for the info.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: MuffinAss on November 30, 2001, 06:47:47 PM
Twinkie Cream, do that. Not only a PDF guide, but when you get that done, maybe include everything needed in a RAR file or something like that. I know from what I\'ve read and seen that the software to put everything together is small in size. A kit would be nice, but I\'ll take what I can get. As long as there are links, that\'s good, too.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on November 30, 2001, 07:52:25 PM
Actually if you just follow this thread you will understand how to make the image..everything Oz\'s site had was posted in this thread at one point in time. Anyways...has anybody got win9x to work with this as is it is on your orginal win9x cd???i got it to work...thanks ;P...but still wondering if it can be done as is..
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 01, 2001, 07:29:39 AM
to get nt4 to auto insert it\'s serial i thinik it\'s controlled by a winnt.sif file like xp, but i\'ll have to chech it out if I can find my NT4 cd\'s
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 01, 2001, 09:54:41 PM
Yeah I can work on a kit rar or zip file.  Due to space, I am going to list it as two CD\'s.  One All 2K flavors.  The other will be 95, 98 and NT 4.0 Workstation.  I am not fond of ME.
I will try the winn.sif in NT4 Wkst and let everyone know unless Flames posts first.  Anyone have a preference about what kind of burn software to include in the manual?  I am testing to see if I can get it to work with Roxio EZ CDCreater 5.  Any other titles?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: MuffinAss on December 02, 2001, 12:34:18 AM
Yeh, I\'m very ticked off about WinME, that was total garbage. It got bundled with a PC that I bought last year, total waste, just Windows 98 with much bloatware.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 02, 2001, 04:31:01 PM
In regards to what buning software I would recommend either Nero or CdrWin.  I\'ve used both and they are pretty straight forward in creating those disks.  Besids Nero will allow you to overburn, which you\'ll need if you want to create a 5in1 disk that woulld contain most of the files from the various versions of OS\'s.  

In regards to the NT4, I would not use the winnt.sif method bot recommend using the setupp.ini method that is referenced on thetechguide.com site.  I\'ve tried with the winnt.sif and it appears to blow up when doing an install with a BSOD.  I guess that\'s because the image must be coded in someway to look for this file strictly from a floppy.  As soon as I removed the winnt.sif file from the i386 directory I was able to resume an installation.  The value that I found that works is pretty much the same as for win2k.. with the following exception.
What you\'ll most likely see when you open the file is a format similar to this:

 [Pid]
Pid = \"50036\"

All you would need to do is add \'270\" to the value so that it looks like this

[Pid]
Pid = \"50036270\"

Then when you run the installation routine you won\'t be asked for a key.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Tyee on December 03, 2001, 01:04:43 AM
Greetings
  This is a very interesting thread. I am just about ready to try and make a WinXP/2k iso, but I have a couple of questions I haven\'t been able to find the answers to here -

1. Just what has been edited in the \'setupldr.bin\', txtsetup.sif, and the *sect.dat files?

I believe I know the answer to one of these questions. I think the *sect.dat files have to point to the boot floppy directories - right? This is done right at the end of the string \'setupldr.binbootfix.binXXXX\' where XXXX is the said directory off the \'root\'. Are the other files also modified to point to the required directories?

2. In WinXP, the \'txtsetup.sif\' file, after extracting it from the 4 images off the boot floppies, is compressed (txtsetup.si_).
Does this throw a problem into this procedure? What should I do.

Thanks everyone and keep up the good posts!

Tyee
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 03, 2001, 01:07:12 AM
Space.. I wasn\'t sure what you meant by, \"has anybody got win9x to work with this as is it is on your orginal win9x cd???i got it to work...thanks ;P...but still wondering if it can be done as is.. \".  so I went back to retry from the disk that I made.. I was successful in installing this disk using the 9x image that I created as a fresh instsall.. The only problem I seem to have was trying the same installation on a system that had a pre-existing OS.  There I found that the system had a problem identifying the disk as a 9x disk while trying to reformat the drive in preparation for the new install.  I\'m currently looking into this to see if I need to add an additional file to the root of the disk to identify the 9x section.  Not sure if this is what you meant but will let you know what I find out if this is true.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 03, 2001, 01:13:43 AM
Actually the only files that I recall needed to be edited were the setupldr.bin and txtsetup.sif which would point to the directories you mentioned.. the *.dat files were only used to help the loader file know where to drop the menu option that was selected.  As far as I can recall those werent touched..

In regards to the WnXP solution.. I couldn\'t help you on that but would be interested in finding out and will prolly research that to find out if it is this or another file that was edited.  


Anyone else have any ideas?

PS.. I\'m not sure if you\'ll be able to make that disk with win2k/XP unless you drop off all but the i386 directory of either one.. I was thinking of doing the same but the xp is alot more bloated than the 2k images were.. you might tryit but I had no success with that so far.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 03, 2001, 07:04:08 AM
I think you will find xp has 6 Boot floppys, at least in the pro ver, which ver are you using?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 03, 2001, 10:31:03 AM
For XP I\'m using the Pro version.  And Flames you are correct that takes 6 boot floppies.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 03, 2001, 12:36:19 PM
Alright, there a couple of things that need to be addressed and hopefully someone out there can provide the rest of the answer for me.  The three files that need to be edited are:

setupldr.bin: Have yet to determine the edit necessary for this file.  Anyone?

txtsetup.sif: Change SetupSourcePath = \"UENGLISHPRO\" (from the PRO edit).  You must edit this to the location of the i386 folder for NT installs.  It’s roughly in the middle of the file.

*sect.dat: The dat files contain a pointer at the end to the directory for the floppies I think.  Change the XXXX to a four letter folder name (max 4, could it be less?) where you put the floppies.  Eg NT4W for NT 4 Workstation if you want.  Just put the 3 NT4 floppies into that folder.

If I am right you must use a hexeditor for all these edits.  Don’t use notepad or you will get errors.  Someone suggested Ultraedit earlier in the thread and I have been using a trial version so far without any problems.

For 9X installs I used a edit of the config.sys and autoexec.bat from the 98 boot disk to just point to the setup.exe.

Examples:

Config.sys
files=99
buffers=30,0
dos=high,umb
lastdrive=z
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:oemcd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:oemcd001

AutoExec.bat
@ECHO OFF                        
path=%CDROM%
cls                              
set temp=c:                    
set tmp=c:                      
path=;a:;%CDROM%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE;                        
copy command.com c:temp > NUL
set comspec=c:tempcommand.com

LH %path%:MSCDEX.EXE /D:oemcd001 /L:E
::If MSCDEX doesn\'t find a drive...
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 SET CDPROB=1
GOTO QUIT
                                                       
cls
echo Now starting the Windows 98 Second Edition Installation Option
echo for this computer.
echo.
echo Please standby.....
path=%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE
SETUP.EXE /(put any switches you want here)                                        
echo.                                                            
goto QUIT                                                        
                                                                 
:NOCDROM                                                          
echo.                                                            
echo The Windows 98 Setup files were not found.                  
echo.                                                            
                                                                 
:QUIT                                                            
rem clean up environment variables
set CDPROB=
set CDROM=

I put these on a floppy with the necessary files and used dd.exe from Bart\'s site to make an image (dd a: w98.img)

ps. I just edited these.  They are not the ones on the CD that I am using.  I am not currently in front of that computer.  If anyone notices an error with these files please post it.  Thanks.

Again: If anyone is running into a problem over and over or notices a lot of questions in the thread about something and YOU have the answer.  Please let me know for a FAQ in the manual.  Extra Thanks to anyone who emails a screenshot of the answer as well to me.

Thanks to all who help.
“He who asks is a fool for five minutes, he who never asks is a fool forever” –someone smarter than me--
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 03, 2001, 12:48:57 PM
Thanks for the reply Sic1Nine

What I really want for the NT4 is a answer file.  I use MSBatch.inf for 95 and 98 to automate the whole install.  I would like to get as close to that as possible with the NT4 install.  

I looked and NT4 does us the setupp.ini and it looks like adding 270 will auto insert it.  Thanks.

As to the burning software.  Has anyone tried Bart\'s CDRPack 12?  Could we use it as well.  Be nice if I could list free software as much as possible in the manual.  I have had trouble using CdrWin.  I think it has to do with I am using ver4 and the fact that I have never used it before.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 03, 2001, 03:40:45 PM
Yeah, Yeah I know.  I promise I will shut up for the day soon.  Anyway about the winnt.sif on NT 4
Take a look at the Microsoft Knowledge base for
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...b;EN-US;Q123765 (http://\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q123765\")   and
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...b;EN-US;Q216258 (http://\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q216258\")

NT 4 looks at winnt.sif as a floppy pointer to the files using[Data] MsDosInitiated = 1.  While 2000 looks under [Data] for MSDosInitiated=No
Just for kicks I am going to try and use the winn.sif in NT4 install with MSDosInitiated=No
It does not look very promising that it will work but I will try.

Also, does anyone know of a hexeditor that is shareware or even better freeware.  Just wondering.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 03, 2001, 03:51:18 PM
\"Setupldr.bin\" has 3 references to the directory \"i386\" for the original Win2k cd for all versions.  You will need to make the correct reference to the folder which contains the extracted boot floppy files directory.. IE: RootASRV or WPRO or WSRV is where the extracted boot floppy files are contained in a multi version os disk (3in1,5in1.. whatever), the original image references the path as i386.. this edited path would now be ASRV or WPRO or WSRV.  I\'m attaching a screenshot of what the directory stucture is for a disk that I made containing 5 versions.  

The *.dat file was never edited in the original instructions that was posted on OZ\'s site that I can recall.. not sure what you\'ve done there but all that I did was include the respective *.dat files as they were from the original cd in the root directory for those OS versions.

The Hex Editor of choice was UltraEdit.. you could download it and use it without registering it to do all of what is needed here.  The url: http://www.ultraedit.com (http://\"http://www.ultraedit.com\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 03, 2001, 03:58:23 PM
Attached screenshot of 5in1 directory structure I used.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 03, 2001, 04:37:05 PM
I also found a freeware hexeditor called hackman.  Just now trying it out.  Thank you for the info on setupldr.bin  The file is so long it was taking me some time to filter out the changes.

I included a screenshot of the edit to the dat files.  This is the wpro file I got from The_Flames site, I think.  Same edit \'XXXX\' goes for any of the NT installs.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Tyee on December 03, 2001, 07:38:50 PM
Ok, here\'s a summary of what happens from everything I\'ve read
1. Loader.bin boots the computer and then runs diskem1x.bin.
2. diskem1x.bin looks for diskemu.cmd to put up your menu choices for you to choose what to install.
3. Choosing a menu choice runs that specific *sect.dat. This file must point to the specific boot floppy directory of what system your trying to install. (ie. ASRV, WPRO, WSRV).
4. Setupldr.bin (in that specific boot floppy directory) now runs. It must point to the boot floppy directory that itself is in.
5. Ntdetect now runs in that same directory. Ntdetect reads txtsetup.sif for the required info to start the install.
Now everything should install properly if everything I\'ve read is true.
All the above is compiled from this thread, Oz\'s work, Bart\'s site, the Chinese website with a similar procedure (after I translated it, I think Space also posted a translated version in this thread). Thanks, everyone!! I\'m still trying to understand all this in an orderly fashion.

Please feel free to correct my summary if anyone notices errors. I have one more important question --

Why does this procedure use the floppy bootfiles/directories if the original Win2k CD doesn\'t. Since the original CD has a lot of the files (mentioned above) pointing to the I386 folder, why can\'t we just substitute \"I386\" in those files with our new folders ie.  (UENGLISHPRO or UENGLISHADV_SER or UENGLISHWSRV ???

Tyee
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 03, 2001, 08:21:32 PM
if I read your question corectly the answer is NT based  os\'s needs a i386 folder to setup correctly, inly if ms made it more frendly like nt4 k2 xp etc life would of been easer
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Tyee on December 03, 2001, 10:58:00 PM
Sorry
 I forgot to add the \"I386\" to those folder names like this --\"...why can\'t we just substitute \"I386\" in those files with our new folders ie. (UENGLISHPROI386 or UENGLISHADV_SERI386 or UENGLISHWSRVI386 ? \"

When installing, Win2k doesn\'t actually use the *.img files in the Bootdisk folder does it ??

Tyee
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 04, 2001, 12:19:41 AM
I believe that the setupldr.bin file is coded  in someway to only look for a 4 character subdirectory \"i386\" in some way.  That would prolly explain why all the source instructions seem to point to the bootdisk directory WPRO, ASRV or WSRV and not to the fulll path UENGLISHOS Version.  On the original cd the I386 directory is in the root of the disk so the installation process of win2k wouldn\'t need to call the *.img files in the bootdisk folder.  What  we\'ve done in this proceedure is to redirect the installation via the bootdisk files to point it to the new installation point.  Then recompile the disk format so that they would all fit on one disk by creating pointers to the shared files of the different Win2k OS versions that we included on the disk.  At least that is my take on it.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 04, 2001, 12:46:53 AM
Ok i made yet another cd of this project...as mentioned before i only have ntfs partitions. I used the new win9x boot.img that i made from the newly edited setup and config.sys files and all is mapped out in the .iso...or so it should work.  Now i go in fdisk and del a ntfs partition...then format the dos bootable partition on partition C:. then i start my .bat file...win98 gets to that part again where it says something like \"Setup is copying files to prepare for setup\"...or something like that. And then the cd stops spinning and setup is nolonger working and i have to reset the pc.  I must be doing something wrong...big time...but i tell you i think it should work the way i have done it.  The new .img should look for the cdrom drive no matter what the drive letter is right??? this is wacked out...again my cdrom thinks that the cd is in A: and that C: is the cdrom...or something. ..i cant figure this out..i can get it to copy files over..but not without type copy win98 C:win98. can someone post a attachment or somethig of there configsys etc. so i can check it out. I wont use it if that bothers ya i just want to see how this looks for the correct way...and not mine.  
I swear i have been putting this off just because i thought it would work no matter what this time...no i went ahead and tried it and ....and...and im just exhausted. I cant take it...im moving to the talibanwatchamakalit.

btw....according to the how to section here...the only way that you can autoinsert the key is if add that file in the WIN9X dir for winme right??? does this mean if i use a dir named winme to put all my files in this autoinsert wont work???I wouldnt of asked but i have yet to make it even close to that part of the install ;-P...im tired and feeling goofy...type you all later
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Tyee on December 04, 2001, 01:02:21 AM
Thanks for the info Sic1Nine. That would explain it. I\'d like to try it with a long pathname and see what happens but -- I just made my Win2k/XP iso and it\'s about 890MB. Too big for a CD. If I loose everything but the I386 folders I\'m down to about 800MB, still too big! Maybe Virtual PC can do it?? Does anyone know if Virtual PC can run an .iso this big?

Tyee
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 04, 2001, 02:41:08 AM
Yes.. you can do it using Virtual PC and for your info.. that was what I ran into trying to include XP with the 3in1.  You could still prolly use that iso but as I mentioned before in an earlier post, you\'ll have to use a 90 or 99 min cd to do it.. then at least you\'ll retain the directories that you\'ve included in your iso.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Tyee on December 05, 2001, 11:11:00 AM
I tried it with a long pathname and it didn\'t work. I just wanted to confirm it was hardcoded to only look at a  4 character directory.
The way to get around the XP problem of \'txtsetup.sif\' being compressed in the boot floppies is to just forget about the WinXP boot floppies and leave the whole WinXP CD directory as it is on the original install CD, and just copy it over to our \'Root\' directory without any modifications. Then add the necessary Win2k directories as this thread has shown then everything will be fine. Then burn on a 99min CD. I,ll try this when I find one of these.

Do all burners and burning programs support these large CD\'s??

Tyee
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: meV on December 05, 2001, 01:01:19 PM
has anyone used mac simulator? I want to try mac os on my pc, What is the best?

I heard  that the require some real hardware!!! what is it?


I appreciate all replies

meV
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 05, 2001, 03:49:15 PM
You should start a new thred, this one is about making 3-1 style cd \'s
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: meV on December 06, 2001, 05:01:06 AM
Thanks for info:

I will edit and start a new thread, I made this mistake because I \'ve seen few threads about emulation...

anyway, I am sorry for distracting you guys.

meV
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 06, 2001, 04:45:43 PM
NO not all burners do...but most burners do. If your burner doesnt support it then i have no answer why ;P..im not sure why they do or dont. I know this...my mother has a Ricoh7060s and i burnt 99 minute cds on it a year ago...and the burner itself is was made i think in 1998. Now not all cd burners support writing at 99:59 capacity. In fact the only one\'s i have see reported to do so is a older Ricoh and Mitsumi. All others usually stop writing at 99:05 i believe. I know the one i got supports to 99:05. Bottom line even if you read it dont believe it until you experience it. 99 minute cds are cheap compared to when i bought 5 for 20 bucks.  Now you can buy them quite inexpensive from such places as www.youbuy.net . Look around...there cheap to sum it up though. I believe you can make a XP/2k/98 cd with one.

As far as this multi MS OS cd...is it possible to compress all files in something like a .cab and have them extracted then installed. Like put the i386 dir\'s of xp and 2k in a .cab...then have a program that could be added with and run with diskemu.bin ?????know what i mean....i see that the regular install procedure\'s use the .cab. So why not the whole thing
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Josetann on December 06, 2001, 05:21:02 PM
No need to, the individual files in the i386 directories are already compressed.  Putting them in a cab file would only be redundant.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 06, 2001, 06:19:05 PM
Attached to this post there is guide to making win 95 OEM 2 ver installable without having IE installed with it, it alos give som e more information on removing the cd key requirement ect..
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Tyee on December 06, 2001, 09:11:03 PM
Interesting question Space. We\'ll have to look into it.
BTW I have a Plextor 12/10/32 so I\'ll have to look into whether it will do the 99min. burn. I think I read you could damage your burner if it can\'t do this and you try to make it do it!

Here\'s the summary/method I\'m using to make the WinXP/2k Bootable CD. It has the detail in it that I needed, maybe it will help someone else. It\'s just a little reworking of Oz\'s and the other website\'s 3in1 summary (the_Flames if I remember correctly?).I want to give credit where credit is do so thanks to Oz, Flames, you and everyone else here who helped.

Note -- you will have to have read this thread totally to understand everything in here, but most of us have.

         Making a WinXP/2k Boot CD
      
NOTE - This procedure assumes d: is the drive in use

1. Make the following folders on d:

d:CDroot2kPro
d:CDrootBF2k

2. Copy Full Win2k CD to \'d:CDroot2kPro\' folder
3. Extract d:CDroot2kProBootdisk*.img (Win2k Boot Floppies) to \'d:CDrootBF2k\' folder (with pathname,use WinImage).
4. Copy Full WinXP CD to \'d:CDroot\' folder.
5. Hex Edit \'d:CDrootBF2ksetupldr.bin\' to change all ASCII instances of \'i386\' to \'BF2k\'.
6. Edit \'d:CDrootBF2ktxtsetup.sif\' to change \'SetupSourcePath\' to point to \'2kPro\'.
7. Apply service patch 2 to the \'2kPro\' folder --
   w2ksp2.exe -x (extract to a drive other than d:, ie. c: then run the updater)
   c:I386UpdateUpdate.exe -s:d:CDroot2kPro

8. Edit \'d:CDroot2kProI386setupp.ini\', and change line \'PID=??????000\' to \'PID=??????270\' to avoid entering CD serial no.

9. Copy from \'d:CDroot2kPro\' folder the following files to the \'d:CDroot\' folder --
CDROM_IP.5
CDROM_NT.5
Read1st.txt
Readme.doc
spnotes.htm
*.tst (all .tst files)

10. Copy Bart\'s files to \'d:CDroot\' folder --
loader.bin
diskem1x.bin
diskemu.cmd (Edit to suit OS to install, see Bart\'s instructions)
w2ksect.dat (Win2k bootsector)
wxpsect.dat (WinXP bootsector,same as Win2k bootsector)(Rename while copying \'w2ksect.dat\' to \'wxpsect.dat\')

11.Hex Edit in \'d:CDrootw2ksect.dat\' this ASCII text - \'SETUPLDR.BINBOOTFIX.BINI386\' and change the \'I386\' in this string to \'BF2k\'. Leave \'d:CDrootwxpsect.dat\' alone. It will point to \'I386\' which will be in the \'d:CDroot\' folder now (Copied from WinXP CD in step 4).

12. Right click the above 5 files to change their properties to \'hidden\'.

13. Run CDImage with this command line, assuming \'CDroot\' folder has been made on d: and output file is going to e:

  CDImage -lWinXP_2k_Boot -h -o -m -n -bd:CDrootloader.bin d:CDroot e:WinXP_2k.iso

14. Burn iso to CD (approx. 900MB)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 06, 2001, 11:27:51 PM
Yeh but not all files in the i386 are compressed right...just some of the ex_\'s and .cab\'s..or it looks like . Anyways...no overburning to that extent will not damage your burner...it could but so could of alot of other things.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 08, 2001, 09:29:07 PM
Well i got the XP PRO to work on a  multi os with win98 using diskemu.   I did edit the txtsetup.sif, setupldr.bin, and made a WINXPPRO.DAT file.   Since im not the smartest man i also used a file called txtsetup.si_ ...i just copied the txtsetup.sif and renamed it. The installation worked although i dont know which file it used..txtsetup.si_ or txtsetup.sif.   either way it works. I\'ll post a link for them at the end here. Also i put a answer line file named Winnt.sif in the i386 directory and it did NOT work. I dont know, i think i remember something about having to make it all lower case...so maybe it should be called winnt.sif. Or maybe i should put it in with the rest of the floopie files and see if that works. Anybody know how that should be done to work? Either it works.

i put the new files with the boot floopy files in a dir named \"TTGF\" (The Tech Guide Forum) and the windows files in a dir named \"XPPRO\" in the UENGLISH dir.


P.S. Anybody know of  the best and cleanest way to uninstall winxp.? I just deleted the install dir and edited teh boot.ini...that should be good enough right?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 08, 2001, 09:29:33 PM
oops ;-P

http://montym.homestead.com/ludlowsucks/files/rootxp.zip (http://\"http://montym.homestead.com/ludlowsucks/files/rootxp.zip\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 10, 2001, 05:08:06 PM
I have a feeling it\'s not done yet and due to time restrictions I have yet to convert to a pdf. But the close to final draft of the manual is done. Hopefully a few you still need it. This took longer than I thought. I will countinue to work on it and will repost once the pdf document is done. Till then feel free to look at the draft and submit further questions or comments here in the forum.  Click on my name at the bottom to get to my website.

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 10, 2001, 05:35:02 PM
well it\'s definitly more readable that the quick & dirty text file on my site /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />, and the timps to get 9x on it are kool /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

now i just need to fix my pc so i can try it again /tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 10, 2001, 06:13:47 PM
this is off your page twinkie....

\"I am not sure at this time, since I have yet to try, but you should be able to use the winnt.sif file for XP as well.\"

Like i said right above putting a file named \"Winnt.sif\" in the i386 dir in winxp pro does not work for automated installs....i am retrying tonight with the Winnt.sif file in the directory where the floppy files rest.

Can someone confirm wether or not using a capital W in the filename Winnt.sif is correct or should all letters be lowercase...i have searched. MS.com for the info it just keeps saying \"The file must be named Winnt.sif.\" which means it should be witha  capital but i read somewhere that case does matter....wether or not case matter for a capital W i dont know. but i did read it
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 10, 2001, 06:22:45 PM
winnt.sif case doesnt matter as with most ms products /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 10, 2001, 06:27:46 PM
Looking at the MS Knowledge base it says:

-rename to winnt.sif in bold.  The only time listed in bold is lowercase.  Maybe important maybe not.  Usally does not matter for install files.

-the winnt.sif file must be in the folder where you put the floppies.  I will update the site soon to show this.

Thanks Space,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 10, 2001, 06:53:10 PM
Really nice site twinkie...really really nice. That\'s the best yet for this...probably can\'t get any better.  

Also if you read what \"Eric\" posted in this thread http://www.thetechguide.com/forum/showflat...o=&fpart=1&vc=1 (http://\"http://www.thetechguide.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=software&Number=1365&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1\")
you will notice he seemed to be overly informative seem to know what he is talking about...and he mentions to name the file WINNT.SIF...in all capitals ;-) ...im not too sure what to try here due to partially installing win2k/xp isnt very quick....so i am going to use cdimage this time and put three winxp pro\'s on the same cd with different variations. To sum it up i probably wont be back online tonight :-P.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 10, 2001, 07:24:46 PM
Hmmm,
I posted the manual online thinking that would give me some time to regroup.  Looks like that did not work /wink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\';)\' />

Anyway, I am assuming until told otherwise that flames is right.  It is not case sensitive on the CD.  However that thread did show a lot of interesting notes that will most likely end up in the manual.  I wonder if I could find out what \"Eric\'s\" email is?  

Future notes for the manual -- winnt32.sif / OEM and all that goes with it / IE6 & security updates (quite mode).

That\'s a wrap for the day,
Time to go home to the misses
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 10, 2001, 09:48:22 PM
Eric was right....it worked named WINNT.SIF but didnt work as Winnt.sif in the i386. i dont know if winnt.sif would work too but i know that WINNT.SIF does.  NOTE: this was for winxp pro and it made the install FULLY automated....i didnt even have to read the license agreement or get to choose the drive toinstall on....i did NOT want it to do this...it did it anyways..i guess the default install location was c:?¿..im used another computer to see what the problem was and it automatically sets the AutoPartition=1...so set that to 0 if you dont want it to do that..you will have to change that yourself dont forget.
  Also Twinkie you might want to add that however much space that all the os\'s copied onto the drive is taking up..you will need that amount free and
enough space for the final .iso i.e. 1.6gigs+1.6gigs+600mbs=3.8gigs for the total operation...that was brought to my attention rudely.
Ok now...i accidently overwrote my config.sys file while i was editing the one for the win98 boot.img.... so my system wont start. ?anyway i can somehow get it to work again?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 10, 2001, 09:52:45 PM
sorry forgot...that WINNT.SIF file i used was created with setupmgr.exe off the cd....so that is why AutoPartition was set to 1...if you manually create this it wouldnt be like that...but would be harder. Also in windows2000 when you did the same exact thing i did with XP (create a fully unattended .txt)...it did not put the AutoPartition value in there at all...so it is setupmgr.exe is different in XP than 2K
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 10, 2001, 10:07:28 PM
here is my winnt.sif for xp, the serial is edit tho /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

---= snip ere  =-----

[data]
UnattendedInstall=no
AutoPartition=0

[Unattended]
AutoActivate=\"no\"
DisableDynamicUpdates=\"yes\"
OemSkipEula=\"yes\"

[GuiUnattended]
    TimeZone=85

[UserData]
    ProductID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[TapiLocation]
    CountryCode=44

[RegionalSettings]
    LanguageGroup=1
    Language=00000809

[Identification]
    JoinWorkgroup=Home

[Networking]
    InstallDefaultComponents=Yes


----= End Snip =---


that work a treat when installing /wink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\';)\' />
it sets everything to UK /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' /> and the network to home
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 11, 2001, 06:56:44 PM
and the file \"winnt.sif\" works in the i386 dir???i know Winnt.sif doesnt and WINNT.SIF...as far as the actual info in the sif file you should read over Eric\'s post again...im now usint the %OEM% directory as he mentioned to copy over what i usually use and i do copy the NTUSER.DAT file as he mentioned too..saves alot of time...

o yeh why dont you do a unattended install anyways?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on December 11, 2001, 08:15:32 PM
That winnt.sif lives within the i386 dir
It just sets some defaults to the uk insted of the US
It removes the need to put a key into the installer and saves some timeconsuming changes that i have to usally make!!! /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on December 12, 2001, 03:18:54 AM
Just looked over the posts regarding the \"winnt.sif\" files, I will have to try this with the xp pro disk as well.  Like the options for customized installation. ;-)  BTW Space, I think you made a typo, that should be $OEM$ vice %OEM%.. Just thought that I would mention it incase someone else was to try.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: JBlank2k on December 14, 2001, 01:24:19 AM
I\'ve been following this string for about a week I guess. I have a pretty basic question... All I want is a Dual boot Install for Win98SE and Win2k Pro... I have the SP2 Streamlined and have added directories for updates and 3rd party software. Is there anyone who has perfected a proceedure for this? If so I would greatly appreciate any help. Between packing and moving and all the common chaos... My research time has suffered :Þ
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2001, 05:56:52 AM
JBlank2k,

how much the size of your iso now ? with win98se and win2k Pro together with utilities ? I tried to setup one but went out of range to 700 MB then I can\'t find a decent 90 / 99 min cd around.. I would like to know what is your iso size ? and which dirs you eliminated if that is within 630 MB ?

Thanks,
Vijay.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: JBlank2k on December 14, 2001, 11:53:29 AM
This is where I stopped really. After following the posts, I downloaded pretty much all of the tools mentioned that I didn\'t have. I had so many and had such an array of starts and no finish /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' /> Let\'s see... I have the directories setup without the image files so far and then an image of win2k.
The Win2k image alone is about 308 MB on disk. This is only the updated i386 directory and the needed files for the \"Cdrpack\" process.

The Directories I have that I want to create an image for include:
HFNetchk
i386
IE 5.5 SP2 All Win Versions
IIS 5 Security Update
IIS Lockdown Tool
Win98
I have a few more I would like and so far the directory sizes are 536 MB on my hard disk. The image files under the i386 for cdrpack are only about 489k... I\'m not sure if I helped or hurt on this one but If I could get the process for imaging in CDImage I will create it and let you know how it turns out.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2001, 07:38:29 AM
CDImage \"will not\" help you reduce the size if there are no common files. It would reduce the ISO size if there are common files. For eg. Win2k pro / server / a server all use same driver.cab and a lot of other files.. so they are reduced to one single physical copy and other references are setup as \'shortcuts\'. But if you want a XP Pro / Win 2K Pro the files are different entirely, so you would end up with 300+ (win2k) and another 400+ for XP. May be we need a bootable DVD !!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on December 17, 2001, 08:29:49 PM
CAn you even use a DVD to boot from???if so then all worries are over...can this happen???
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: christmille on December 18, 2001, 11:30:22 AM
I think this can help, if you do have enough bucks for the time being.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Smille02 on December 20, 2001, 07:31:37 PM
Probably already mentioned, but I wonder if one could build a ram disk, change the command.com to operate from there, and use the old assign function to fool the OS that a=b or something... If you did that you could put anything you like under ./i386 - even Solaris if you wanted to /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' /> and continue about the MS hardwired ways -  Just a thought...

--SWM [email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on December 27, 2001, 04:05:48 PM
Has anyone made a successful boot Cd with multi OS on them?  I am looking for a solution on this, but every where I have looked it is very difficult to do.

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: eekarum on December 28, 2001, 01:24:50 AM
Here is my winnt.sif file, works on both 2000 and XP PRO.
However, it disables Luna theme, MS error reporting,
remote desktop client, .net messenger  etc... on xp

the references to .reg files on a: .. are compiled (maybe hives) registry entries
containing all the tcp-ip tweaks and completely hidden stuff about your domains
that SETUP finds while upgrading NT workstation to NT server.....

it is always changing, and that\'s why lines are commented out, or just have no values.
anyway, it works ~!.....
========================================
Anything remotely resembles slipstreaming the SP6 into WINNT 4.0 ?....
cause i always SP6 \'n on top of a fresh installs. it would be nice not have to do all of that extra work
Hopefully, someone knows the answer !
========================================
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;###################################################################
;# This should be changed to whatever you set ComputerName to.
;#   
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;###################################################################
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;#
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;###################################################################
 
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   PathFTPRoot=\"D:Program Filesinetpub\"
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[SystemRestore]
============================================
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: eekarum on December 28, 2001, 01:38:28 AM
NT, 2000 and xp search for a file called winnt.sif in the floppy drive at the beginning of text-mode setup

by the way, because of the MSDOSINITIATED entry in the above winnt.sif
this only works from a floppy disk (you can change it),

insert floppy with this file (winnt.sif) at the beginning of text-mode setup. before you press F6 and all that....
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on December 28, 2001, 02:36:05 PM
Oz,

  If you are viewing these posts, I know you took your site down. Is there anyway that I can get your help?  My email address is [email protected].  I am trying to make a bootable CD with NT4/W2KPro on it and I am having alot of problems with it.  You seem to be very knowledgable on this and wanted to know if you could help.

Thanks

Greg
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: mindless- on December 29, 2001, 01:19:56 PM
Hi all!

I\'ve been reading this post for two weeks now and I\'d like to inform that I\'m writing a complete tutorial/how-to about making multiple OS boot CD. I\'m going to write it first in finnish and then in english.

I\'ve made two cd\'s, other with finnish and english W2K Pro and other with english W2K Pro, W2K Server, NT4 Workstation and NT4 Server. I removed some of the unneeded Support-files and was able to cut the size of the image to 702 MB =) So I got it burned to a 80 Min CD.

I have used the winnt.sif trick with XP and 2K. For NT4 I used one tool found from NT4 Resource Kit CD or something similar to that. (Can\'t remeber, found it from school\'s computer class =) )

I won\'t post any link now because I can\'t upload the tutorial to my school\'s web server. When I get my ISP\'s webspace to work I\'ll upload it there.

If anyone has suggestions or other ideas please email to [email protected]


 mindless
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on December 31, 2001, 12:08:14 PM
Oz sort of disappeared.  His manual can still be found if you hunt for it though.  Version 2 of the manual was posted by The_Flames.  Version 3 is now posted at my site.  It is still being worked on but enough is there for you make the iso file.  I have several links to Flames site at mine.  Just click on my name to get there.

I have been on holiday so I have not updated my site since early last month.  I hope to put more information up soon.

Thanks all,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on December 31, 2001, 03:43:37 PM
Hey mindless- sounds great.  I am looking to make a bootable CD that has W2K and NT4 on it.  If you have a manual for it that would be great.  Biggest thing I am looking for is a Bootable CD that will also install both OS\'s and install some programs that I need installed in a certain order.  I have been told that the unattended install works but I am not to sure.

Thanks

The Marine (Greg)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on December 31, 2001, 03:49:24 PM
Hey Twinkie,

  Thanks for the info.  Let me know when you get you manuel up.  Email me at [email protected].  I loved your site too.  All of you have given me some great ideas.  Problem is I had to weed through all the postings.  I am in the Marine Corps and trying to make installation easier for Marines in the field. All that I have learned here has been great.  Thanks again.

Greg
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Dave on January 01, 2002, 10:46:31 AM
You need to copy the service pack indentifier file \"cdromsp2.tst\" to the root of the cd
that should elimate the request for sp2 to be inserted into the a drive.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: goyard3x on January 05, 2002, 03:26:04 PM
Anyone know what is up with Bart\'s site? Haven\'t been able to get on lately, did he move it or shut it down?

  Thanx,    Goyard3x
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2002, 08:11:10 PM
Hi all, i have been reading with interest the posts, I had used Bart\'s info to make mutli-boot cd. I also ended up writing a small autorun utility to endable me to install drivers and software depending on the OS running - had looked for one on the net but couldn\'t find one which done what i wanted.
If anyone is interested can get it here...

http://jove.prohosting.com/~techinfo/restore/ (http://\"http://jove.prohosting.com/~techinfo/restore/\")

Seeya
Dave
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2002, 08:21:18 PM
How can i make xp auto complete the CD key code when doing an install, or stop the install from asking like can be done in w2k.  I have used msbatch with 98/me, but that doesn\'t work in xp !

Davo
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: hkazemi on January 06, 2002, 11:36:05 AM
I just looked at Google\'s cache of the site:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:8ICZb.../+Bart+CD&hl=en (http://\"http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:8ICZbdrLwpEC:www.nu2.nu/bootcd/+Bart+CD&hl=en\")

It was hosted at Saburovo.com which suffered a hard drive failure as mentioned here: http://www.saburovo.com/ (http://\"http://www.saburovo.com/\")
\"FREE HOSTING USERS
- Server\'s hard disk used for free hosting failed
- Free hosting sites will be spread among 3 servers (I have 28 servers with RackShack in total)
- Please read the details here\"

And also here http://www.saburovo.com/freehosting.html (http://\"http://www.saburovo.com/freehosting.html\")

I bet Bart\'s site was among those on that drive...I hope he has a backup somewhere...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on January 08, 2002, 10:53:54 AM
Outstanding on your program.  That is just what I was looking for....thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: fugazi on January 08, 2002, 02:03:46 PM
i created a 3-in-1 Win2K SP2 CD following the instructions on Twinkies site and after reading all the posts here. Worked great after two attempts.

I did however get a \'Insert Service Pack 2 CD\' prompt when i removed the CD after the file copy stuff happened...my first test using VirtualPC went without a hitch and no \'insert...\' prompt when i just left the CD in....not sure what that means just yet.

Does anyone know difinitivly if/how you can incorporate an Unattend.txt or Winnt.sif into the mix to accomidate an unattended install? Any links and such to using the 3-in-1 and adding post-SP2 hotfixes, IE6 Uprade, IE6 Update etc...

Great work everyone! Many thanks!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2002, 02:57:11 PM
Yeah Twinkies has updated his site.  There are instruction on there.  He is putting more on this week.  Did you intergrate SP2 with you W2K?  It should have not asked you for the SP disk.  I did it the way that Twinkie said and it worked right the first time...

Check out his site.http://www.geocities.com/twinkie_cream_m/

TheMarine
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2002, 11:52:20 PM
i\'m experiencing trouble. don\'t know what\'s up.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2002, 11:53:04 PM
i\'m experiencing trouble too. don\'t know what\'s up.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: HappyTOshare on January 09, 2002, 09:02:42 AM
Hi Guys,

Very good work indeed. Well I have started going through this wesite recently, dont know OZ or his work, but congrulations to oz and to you all for all the good and hard work.

I will soon be coming up with all the information I have and everybody is welcome to share it, distribute it. Also it will not be copied from anywhere. If I have to REINVENT THE WHEEL, then so be it.

If u guys have any suggestions, like forming a group, team please do post them, as team work is always better than one individual. Again all that work will be free for all, can can be freely shared.

Very good work SPACE and THE_FLAMES. Please do keep it up.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: fugazi on January 09, 2002, 12:19:13 PM
[indent]In reply to:

Did you intergrate SP2 with you W2K? It should have not asked you for the SP disk. I did it the way that Twinkie said and it worked right the first time...


[/indent]

I did slipstream SP2 into all three. If i leave the CD in the drive when installing Win2k Pro (only one tested ATM), I don\'t get prompted for anything, however if i remove the CD after the text mode portion is done, it gives me the \'Please insert Service Pack 2 CD\' prompt...if i throw the 3-in-1 back in, it continues on it\'s merry way...not a show stopper, just an oddity. If anyone knows why i\'d love to fix it through...i thought just maybe it might be because of the step where you copy the *.tst (cdromsp2.tst i believe) file, i copied it from the ADVSRV directory...the file is empty in all three...who knows?

anyway, on to the unattend.txt/winnt.sif work...I\'ve got 7 more days to have a working install process...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: DavoNZ on January 09, 2002, 07:18:17 PM
I have used the following method to intergate the service pack\'s into my windows 2000 install CD for 2 years now. I have never been asked for any other CD when I have installed from the CD i have created.


Make a directory on your HD for the Windows 2000 cd eg: d:w2kcd

Copy the whole windows 2000 cd to that directory.

I got the service pack from a PC mag CD, so to extract the service pack ready for intergation into the win2k install cd copy the service pack w2ksp2.exe to your HD ( in my case d: ).

Open a DOS box in windows then run the following command:

D:W2ksp2.exe /x

You will be asked for a dirctory to install the server pack to, i use d:sp2

When the service pack is extracted to intergrate it with the CD type:

d:sp2i386UpdateUpdate.exe -s:d:w2kcd

Once that is done, I then use CDRWIN to burn the CD. You can get CDRWIN from http://www.goldenhawk.com/ (http://\"http://www.goldenhawk.com/\")

If you require help to write the CD using CDRWIN, leave a post and I will upload onto a web site.. Or just use what Bart does, but i find CDRWIN much easier to use and quicker...

Seeya Davo
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 10, 2002, 07:41:46 PM
I would be happy to offer more advice and I am trying to update the sections as requests come in.  However the two comments about having problems don\'t help.  You got to list what the problem is guys and girls.  There are a couple hundred readers in here who can help.  That\'s why I love this site and keep coming back.  The manual I posted was largely written by everyone here.  If you need help... POST!

Don\'t mean to yell, but helping everyone out is my idea of fun.  It sometimes bugs me when people complain about problems and then don\'t ask how to fix it.

I\'ll go calm down now.

Updates: Not on the site yet.
Internet Explorer Administration Kit.  Download it and run the wizard.  Put distribution on CD.  Add to unattend using cmdlines.txt file.  That appears to be the easiest way to \"slipsteam\" IE into the install.

I am currently looking for switch commands to supress reboot for DirectX 8 or better and Media Player 7.1   I will add to the unattend section of the manual -- Anyone?

The directions to burn the bootable CD are already posted here at thetechguide.com.   Go here: http://www.thetechguide.com/win2kbootcd/ (http://\"http://www.thetechguide.com/win2kbootcd/\").  The settings are all the same even for the Multiboot CD.

Another option to using the unattend to install programs is Daves cool program http://jove.prohosting.com/~techinfo/restore/ (http://\"http://jove.prohosting.com/~techinfo/restore/\")  Take a look and see if it helps.

Hope to post again soon,
Thanks to all who contribute,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on January 11, 2002, 12:24:45 PM
Hey Twinkie,

   On XP you said to extract the bootdisk images out of the bootdisk directory.  I have checked three copies of XP and did not find it.  Two were legal copies. Where can you get a copy of the Bootdisk? All most go it set up.  Just go to get XP done and I am in there.

Thank again for the great site.

Keep treading on
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: thatkgbagent on January 11, 2002, 02:44:06 PM
Twinkie,

i\'ve got a single OS boot cd going (win2k) and also would like to suppress the reboots of directx and media player.  i have found something out, though:  i\'m installing these in the GuiRunOnce section in separate batch files.  if i let it reboot, then, as long as the auotlogon count is upped (i\'m at 7 right now), the GuiRunOnce continues after the reboot.  there is a caveat, though:  if running batch1.bat, batch2.bat, and batch3.bat, in that order, and a reboot is triggered in batch1.bat, then when the GuiRunOnce resumes after the reboot, it executes batch3.bat and completely skips batch2.bat (also skips anything else in batch1.bat that follows the line that triggered the reboot).
my workaround for now is:  i stick a dummy batch in there (hello world) that is harmless and doesn\'t matter if skipped.  so my GuiRunOnce section looks like:

================
[GuiRunOnce]
   \"%systemdrive%Installshotfixes.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsempty.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsapps1.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsempty.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsieupdt.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsempty.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsapps2.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsempty.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%InstallsOrncinst.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsempty.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%InstallsO_reg.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsempty.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsapps3.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsempty.bat\"
   \"%systemdrive%Installsdx.bat\"
================

where empty.bat is just:
================
echo hello world

exit
================
my question then is:  is there a way to permit the reboot without requiring response to the dialog box that pops up (check ok for reboot) after, for instance, directx?
also, is there a way to force a reboot from the command line, arbitrarily?  (there are some apps that i\'m installing after which i\'d like to force the reboot, but can\'t.)

kgb
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 11, 2002, 05:51:36 PM
Workaround: You will need to use shutdown.exe from the Resource Kit.  I grabbed it out of the NT4 but I think it is still in the 2000 one as well.  I will check.  Anyway, during the install copy shutdown.exe to the harddrive and point to it with this bat file.

@echo off
rem shutdown
pathshutdown /l /y /t:0
exit
rem reboot
pathshutdown /l /y /r /t:0
exit

That will force a shutdown without any user intervention.  I used to know how to do that on 9X machine without need of shutdown.exe but need to remember how.  I will post again if I find my notes on 9X.  It may help anyone who does not have access to the Resource Kit.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 11, 2002, 06:40:27 PM
Go to M$ Knowledge base, search for Q310994

You have to download the floppies.  Why?  Got me!

I will be updating the XP page this weekend.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: thatkgbagent on January 11, 2002, 06:53:21 PM
i don\'t have that tool (but will try to get it).

the directx 8.1 download is something like dx81nteng.exe.  when i type that at the command prompt with \'/?\', it says that the setup options are /Q, /T:, /C, and /C:.
/Q is for the quiet modes of the package.  do you know how to find out what the quiet mode options are?  i\'ve been using /Q:A and that installs it nearly completely, but hangs at that last prompt for reboot (just needing to press the ok button - ridiculous).  /C: is for overriding an author defined install command.  how is this used?  how do we find out what the author defined commands are?
i was able to use /Q:A /R:N for the install of IE5.5sp2 (with reboot suppressed), but the /R:N doesn\'t seem to work for either the directx8.1 or media player 7.1.

kgb
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 11, 2002, 07:52:06 PM
Extract directx into a folder.  copy that over with oem options and run this from the batch file.

dxsetup.exe /silent /reboot

It installs with no dialog progress and no need for you to select any ok box before reboot.  Still looking at the Media Player exe to find the same options.  I found a reference to /Q /R:N in there though.  I was gonna try that tomorrow.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 11, 2002, 08:00:12 PM
on a whim I just tried that without adding /reboot

I don\'t know if because I already installed it did not need to reboot or if that is the answer.  I will try it out on a test machine over the weekend.

Anyway, it installed without the need for reboot just now.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: thatkgbagent on January 11, 2002, 08:44:01 PM
sorry, what do you mean by copy it over with oem options?  do you mean copy it to the $oem$ folder on the setup cd?

from my attempts, directx seems to behave such that it doesn\'t reboot if it\'s already installed, but does force a reboot if it hasn\'t been installed yet.

i got ahold of shutdown and will be trying that...

kgb
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: DavoNZ on January 11, 2002, 09:33:11 PM
XP doesn\'t have the bootdisk images on it - or at least my xp pro doesn\'t. The bootdisk images on win2000 (and NT) were so you could make bootable diskettes and then boot you PC form the diskettes, but now that most everybody has bootable CD drive there is no need for the boot images. What xp does and win2k (or so i think ) is when the CD boots a small boot program is loaded into memory, it gives out the message \"press anykey to boot from CD\", then it loads another program (setupldr.bin or similar name) on the CD that expands files on the CD needed for setup. So of course if you are going to rewrite a bootable xp cd you need to extract the boot program from the CD... check www.geocities.com/koolasnz/ , it hasn\'t been completed (just started it yesterday), but in the download menu i have put i bootget - the 3 programs are from bart\'s (last time i checked barts site was not there), download it and read the instructions and you will be able to extract the boot image from any bootable CD... dos, w9x, ME, NT, 2k and XP...  Then you can rewrite any boot CD you want...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: XRay1720 on January 14, 2002, 04:49:07 AM
Hey People.

First of all: This forum is great. Keep up the great work.
Thx to Twinkie, The Flames and OZ for the guides and stuff. Very very useful.

Following those instructions i made a ISO. It boots and starts the install without any probs.
But after it loads some drivers (shortly after F6) it says the following:

\"WPROvgaoem.fon\"
\"WSRVvgaoem.fon\"
\"ASRVvgaoem.fon\" Could not be loaded. Reboot.

Shouldn´t those files be in the \"uenglishxxxi386\" folders ?
After examining all *.sif *.txt and *.dat files they all point to the correct locations. As i downloaded them and never edited them. Also i made the directory structure exactly as in twinkies instructions.
If i copy those files (vgaoem.fo_) in the directories (WSRV-WPRO and ASRV) it continues with another error message.

\"cxxx.xxx\" Could not be loaded.

Do i need to copy the whole \"i386\" folder to the bootdisk folder ??

Please some suggestions what i did wrong. Anything else just works fine.

Warm greetings.
XRay1720


P.S.: I´m also working on a \"How-To\". So if someone    
        interested send a e-mail. Will send as soon as it is  
        complete. Also working on a localized version in  
        German.

[email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 14, 2002, 11:40:49 AM
place any folders you want copied to C in the following path:

/i386/$OEM$/$C

you can change the drive letter of course.  Then point to C:%prog% to execute your install.

Still working on getting directx to not reboot.  You are right about not needing to reboot if already installed.  My mistake.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 14, 2002, 11:48:05 AM
There is a pointer missing somewhere.  I have not had that problem.  Double-check your SETUPLDR.BIN and TXTSETUP.SIF.  Txtsetup has one edit and Setupldr has three edits for Win2000.  If you are still having the problem and are positive the files are correct post again please.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on January 14, 2002, 12:23:59 PM
the files that are on my site here or  here  (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/the_flames\") has the files that oz used they are the basis for most peoples sucessessfull attempts to making a working 3 in 1 cd the guide on Twinkie\'s guide is easer to follow than mine, so this is just letting you know were you try to get the files if your copies are currupt!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 14, 2002, 12:38:36 PM
In the W2000 section I am pretty sure I used the files hosted by Flames.  The only change was to the diskemu.cmd file I think.  Otherwise, the files should be the same.

Why recreate the wheel?

Note to all: It appears that Geocites puts a limit on the downloads from your site per month.  I hit that already, so I will be looking into finding another home for my site soon.  I may even get a domain name to go with it.  Depends on how much $$$ I can come up with.  Till then, if you run into problems with my site please check in with Flame\'s site.

Hopefully you don\'t mind Flames, /wink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\';)\' />

Thanks,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: thatkgbagent on January 14, 2002, 06:17:16 PM
twinkie:  got shutdown, got it to work.  now my guirunonce is really long and i have a huge autologon count, but i have it installing nearly all the basic applications i want.  just having a glitch on my orinoco (wireless card for laptop) client in suppressing a dialog box that opens.  i did have to extend the time limits on the forced shutdown to be sure that the softwares had enough time to install themselves fully (some were getting truncated and failing).

do you know how to pipe in just a mouseclick for a dialog box button?  (not that big a deal since there should be a way to suppress the dialog box in the first place, but just curious...)

smooth like butta.

kgb
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2002, 06:41:59 PM
To slipstream the i386 directory, execute the following command.

c:installsp2fulli386updateupdate.exe -s:c:installw2kcd

Note that some of the documentation incorrectly refers to /s.  Also, ensure that there is no space between the –s switch and the destination path.  Note also that it’s the CD root that is specified and not the i386 directory itself.  This operation can only be performed on a Windows 2000 computer.

The directory should now contain at least the following files and folders:
i386
cdrom_ip.5
cdrom_nt.5
cdromsp2.tst

If the CD is not a Windows 2000 Professional CD (e.g. Server) then the identifier files required will differ.  Refer to www.bink.nu for details.

The cdromsp2.tst file needs to be in the root, otherwise you will be prompted to insert the SP2 CD during setup.  This is a zero byte file, so can be created by hand if necessary.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on January 15, 2002, 09:20:19 AM
Has anyone tried a multi ghosting image yet created with cdimage.exe?????if it is possible it would make things alot easier for you that are trying to have certain files installed after initial boot. If you were creating this disc for use by someone other than yourself you would not be dictating what gets installed and leave that up to the user. So obviously you would be better off with a ghost for yourself in this case.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: fugazi on January 15, 2002, 11:00:23 AM
I managed to get the DirectX 8.1 to install without rebooting, in a round about way...

what i did was ran the \'dx81nteng.exe /Q:A /R:N, and then in my script put a wait of 1 minute, then using a utility to kill processes, killed the process....then scripted a reboot with shutdown.exe....

haven\'t noticed any ill effects as of yet. the same process DID NOT work for Media Player 7.1...

Not real sure why Microsoft would make it that difficult to automatically deploy those two...dummies.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2002, 11:25:10 AM
...i also just got both to install without hacking or rebooting.

extracted DirectX8.1 to a folder, then ran dxsetup /install (did not prompt nor force a reboot)(verified DX8.1 installed)

extracted MediaPlayer7.1 to a folder, then ran setup_mp /Q:A /R:N (did not prompt nor force a reboot)(verified MP7.1 installed)

Give it a shot. This was tested on a fresh Win2K Pro SP2 with the applicable hotfixes installed prior to testing.

I\'d be happy to assist anyone trying to do the same. I so far have everything automated and generating post-install reports and hfnetchk reports. Moving on to the scripted Office XP install....oh the joys of sysadmin...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 15, 2002, 12:31:33 PM
The problem I think we are all having is the error with setup_mp running in dos mode.  The system does not recognize the exe as a valid prog.  Some tech notes in the M$ KB note that you should only run MP71 install from explorer.  What kind of file are you using to get MP71 to install.  Batch, VB, custom????

Note: dxsetup /install /silent does exactly what you say.  I just tested on a new machine at work.  No reboot, no dialog.  Yeah!

Thanks,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: fugazi on January 15, 2002, 01:56:12 PM
what i am doing:

install win2k pro sp2 (using 3-in-1 cd and winnt.sif on floppy)

winnt.sif contains
[GuiRunOnce]
Command0=a:part1.cmd

[part1.cmd] = Sets some temp variables needed later during script, maps Z: to %REPOSRV%%REPOPATH%, xcopies an 89MB folder called SUPPORT to c:winntposttempsupport.

(In Support i have all the hotfixes, IE6, MP71, DX81 etc...)

...script runs hfnetchk and saves as a report to %POSTINSTALLREPORTS%, sets variables permanently via registry merge (so i don\'t have to continue to manually \'set\' everything). calls %PATHTOSUPPORT%IE6IE6SCR.CMD( which installs IE6 silently), sets the RunOnce registry via merge to run %PATHTOSUPPORT%part2.cmd on next boot, then calls %PATHTOSUPPORT%reboot.cmd, which contains commands to do shutdown.exe (from reskit) to reboot the system.

[part2.cmd] = contains commands to run another hfnetchk report, install IE6 update Q313675, set registry again, reboot again...

[part3.cmd] = installs hotfixes:q252795, q285156, q285851, q296185, q298012, q299796, q302755 and q296441. Then runs qchain.exe, runs another hfnetchk report, sets runonce again, calls reboot.cmd

[part4.cmd] = calls %PATHTOFIXES%MP71MP71SCR.CMD, which unzips mp71.exe and then installs using /Q:A /R:N, runs another hfnetchk report, sets registry, calls reboot.

[part5.cmd] = calls %PATHTOFIXES%DX81DX81SCR.CMD, which unzips DX81NTeng.exe and installs using /install, sets registry, calls reboot.cmd

[part6.cmd/officexp.cmd] runs hfnetchk report, maps a drive to %REPOSRV%%REPOPATH%OfficeXP (also var\'d as %PATHTOOFFICE%) and launches an Admin Install (with transform) of OfficeXP SP1, saves the log to %PATHTOREPORTS% and calls reboot.cmd.
============================================

this is obviously a work in progress and a lot of testing has been done to work out the process and timings (still not 100%).

I think i may *zip* the whole support directory on the server and unpack to the local system...to save copy time across the network, not sure if it will speed things up or not. also need to work on adapting it to work from CD if possible...also going to be adding quite a few more \'post install tweaks/registry mods\"...never ending...

It does seem to be going very well...just takes a bit of patience. I tried to write each script modular and using the variables at all times, this way all I need to do in my part1.cmd is modify the %REPOSRV% value to a different repository server and i can use it anywhere in my organization.

If anyone has further questions or wishes to add anything, feel free to email me @ [email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2002, 11:42:25 AM
extract the contents of your MP7.exe file to a folder , use winzip

if there are any .MSI files in the media player setup package, try running them under msiexec.exe with a switch to prevent reboooting

or install the INF files with sysocmgr.exe using a modified sysoc.inf file
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 16, 2002, 12:52:30 PM
Okay, just tested the windows media player silent install using your commands on a total of four machines now.  Guess what, the last three worked fine.  I am going to have to figure out why my computer did not work.  I will stop pestering you about how you did it now.  Oops,

To copy over the updates and fixes I used an oem folder to copy over a cab file.  Then used the windows extract to then open the cab to the right spot for further install.  Works for me.  I will post back with the location of the cab creater.  It is somewhere in the forum I am sure.  Pretty sure this is where I got the file from anyway.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on January 17, 2002, 10:09:00 AM
Thanks for the info. Twinkie had on his site that XP had a BootDisk directory and I wanted to make sure his site was correct.  Helping out in fine tuning on Multi OS bootdisks.  Almost there myself.


Thanks again

TheMarine
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on January 17, 2002, 10:39:50 AM
I just knoticed that i didnt put my urls correctly on my post /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />

there there are if you want the files if you cannot get them from Twinkie

 main link  (http://\"http://guy.ipfox.com\")

 other route  (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/the_flames\")

sorry to anyone who tryed the link before /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on January 17, 2002, 06:30:14 PM
Hey thank for the update.  I will check your site when I get back...

Thank again

TheMarine
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2002, 03:56:27 AM
hi all

I have read twinkie\'s manual and try to create my own bootable w2k CD with OEM drivers... but my localized version of w2k cannot obtain access to $oem$ folder during unattended setup - at all! No files copied, no drivers installed...
I tried find solution on microsoft KB and found this:
Cannot Obtain Access to $oem$ Folder During Unattended Setup (Q234536)
( http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...ymous%7c2020893 (http://\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2fsearch%2fviewDoc.aspx%3fdocID%3dKC.Q234536%26dialogID%3d2283271%26iterationID%3d1%26sessionID%3danonymous%7c2020893\") )

Hmm... I really cannot do it?

P.S. Sorry for my english...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 23, 2002, 12:01:37 PM
Now what strikes me as odd is that I have three CD\'s using OEM that came from large company\'s.  Gateway, Compac and Dell to be specific.  Now why would there be a Knowledge base articale saying you can\'t use OEM off the CD when I have done it and so have several large company\'s?  I will play around and see if I can figure this out.  Anyone else got any idea\'s please post or email me. Uh, Anonymous could you post the version number or 2000 type you have.  Maybe it\'s connected somehow.

Thanks,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2002, 12:44:05 AM
I use w2k ver. 5.00.2195 Russian edition (from MSDN disk).
When I installing from msdos using winnt.exe - OEM drivers installation works fine. And, if I trying create boot CD - it not work.
I think, bootdisk images in my version incorrect /sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' /> I\'ll try to use bootdisks from original, english version /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

ps. Can you send me your bootdisk images via email? About 6 mb...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 30, 2002, 02:18:32 AM
Hmm.
When I put $OEM$ under i386 folder - installation works from dos, but not works on boot-cd.
And, when I put $OEM$ directly under UENGLISHWPRO - not under i386 - it works fine!
Twinkie, pls check http://www.ee.ethz.ch/~slist/realmen/msg00003.html (http://\"http://www.ee.ethz.ch/~slist/realmen/msg00003.html\") - and, maybe you\'ll update your manual?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on January 30, 2002, 03:20:15 PM
Now for some reason the $OEM$ folder works in DOS.  Granted.  Next, M$ says it does not work from a CDROM install.  ????  I found an entry in the knowledge base about moving $OEM$ to the root of the install location during network installs.  Sorry don\'t remember the Q number.

So, I will update the manual in the next few days discussing that $OEM$ on the CD\'s be placed in the root of the CD (ie UENGLISH%OS% instead.  Hey Anonymous, email me with the name you want put in the credit section.  

Thanks,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2002, 12:42:39 PM
Hi,
   Can you tell me how to create a Multiboot CD with multiple OS.. I am a bit new to this concept .. So please give me detailed instructions.. I have created a win 2k pro Boot CD with SP2 slipstreamed.. My email is ramu901Email Removed
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2002, 07:23:04 AM
Not too sure about this, if it were the case RIS setups would fail aswell to copy $OEM$. Just double check your WINNT.SIF. I checked Q234536, and it doesn\'t make sense.

A big thanks to all the contributors to this thread, there are some real pearls of wisdom. It is the last time I\'ll use geekcorps diskstate to remove redundancy out of my I386\'s to fit them onto one cd.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2002, 10:30:26 AM
If you get prompted for the service pack disk you forgot to include the CDROMSP2.TST file (Service pack 2) in your bootable disk
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: zilla on February 03, 2002, 02:47:28 PM
Anyone built an auto run on the 3in1 CD yet?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on February 04, 2002, 03:11:29 AM
Funny... I\'d done something similar last year, but not so complex.  I use Ghost frequently, and instead of making a disc that conformed to the MS standard, I\'ve gone ahead and used a Win98 Boot image (floppy), and just put the install sources in 3 separated dirs (i\'m using Win98SE, WinNt4Wkstn, and Win2kPro), wrote a boot menu in config.sys, and a launch script that copies the sources to the C: drive (in either win98, or i386), then launches the setup.exe (w98) with options, or winnt /s:c:i386 for winnt/2k.

It\'s worked very well for me, and updating the disc with changes is no hassle.

nhaddemanEmail Removed
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: nullsession on February 05, 2002, 05:16:47 AM
check out nullsession.com, i\'ve made a how-to where i show how to make a bootable win2k cd with sp2 slipstreamed.

/count
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: earlb on February 15, 2002, 08:36:31 AM
thanks to http://www.tech-hints.com (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com\") as well as Barts for the 3 in 1 man pages. I used the Bart option with the w2kall.bin file. Booting works fine and the menu option selection works as well. Although, when Setup has completed the loading of the files and prompts you to [Enter] to continue...etc...

on pressing ENTER the next screen displays the following message....

Setup cannot find the End User Licensing Agreement (EULA)
Setup cannot continue, To quit, press F3.

Has anyone experienced/seen this problem before???? How does one overcome the EULA

p.s. I am not using unattended installation...

thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: aCaRo on February 16, 2002, 04:27:05 PM
hello!! thanks for this threat it\'s great to see how many people is working for making this cd run.

I have made all this steps but i\'ve got the same error like XRay 1720.

after it loads some drivers (shortly after F6) it says the following:

\"WPROvgaoem.fon\"
\"WSRVvgaoem.fon\"
\"ASRVvgaoem.fon\" Could not be loaded. Reboot.

Anyone knows how to resolve it???
And another question: i\'m spanish and my cd have the 3 versions in spanish.When the bios starts the cd the messages are in english.Do you know how can i put them in spanish too??
Thanks a lot!!! (sorry for my english )
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: aCaRo on February 17, 2002, 10:00:20 AM
Hello!!!
i\'m going crazy with this multiboot. I have done all the steps that people has done here but i\'ve got the same error that gots XRay1720: when it seems to start to copy the temp files of the SO i obtain the following message:
WPROvgaoem.fon\"
\"WSRVvgaoem.fon\"
\"ASRVvgaoem.fon\"

Could not be loaded. Reboot
and i return to the menu but with every option i choose i have the same message.
Can yoy help me???
Thx to Twinkie, The Flames and OZ for the guides and stuff
I have done all the steps in Twinkie,OZ and Flames guides and i dont know whats the problem.

Thx to Twinkie, The Flames and OZ for the guides.
i\'m an spanish man that though that this multiboot was impossible.I see i was wrong.

A lot of thanks.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on February 20, 2002, 02:09:43 PM
I am still having problems even getting this error.  I get similar errors only on CD\'s with a scratch over that file.  May or May not be the case with you.  I will keep looking.
As to the english bootup.  Both the dat files and the loader from Bart\'s site were written in english.  You can edit them if you would like (sorry I don\'t speak spanish) but I don\'t know if that will work on the loader.  I have edited the dat files without problems.  I will drop a line with Bart to see if there are any warnings about changing the language option.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: neo on March 02, 2002, 05:25:45 PM
Folks, i\'ve seen that WinXP is mastered with CDIMAGE.EXE v2.46, but on the net i find only 2.39 from \'97, 2.46 is from \'2000, so if somebody would find this, it would be VERY appreciated !!!!

thanx a lot,
neo
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2002, 05:21:24 AM
Im pretty sure it is just looking for the file EULA.txt
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 03, 2002, 06:28:46 PM
i mad mine with 2.39:
xp home
xp pro
.net webserver pre rc1
.net server pre rc1
.net adv server pre rc1
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 04, 2002, 07:02:37 AM
It\'s okay, i\'ve found 2.47 /biggrin.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':D\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: hunter on March 04, 2002, 06:21:04 PM
If anyone have cdimage.exe never than 2.39, could You tell Me where to get it. I need it to see the changes, if any, there has been made, and for testing with windows xp. I already have cdimage 2.39.

Regards

hunter
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: edizh on March 05, 2002, 01:03:08 AM
so, can anybody share cdimage 2.46?

thanx.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on March 07, 2002, 06:50:05 AM
the only thing new about 2.37 is the addition of DVD iso creation, I believe the older versions will work just as well for cd\'s
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: rickjh on March 11, 2002, 05:11:43 PM
I\'m getting the same thing as earlb....

Setup cannot find the End User Licensing Agreement (EULA)
Setup cannot continue, To quit, press F3.

The file is there (inside each /i386/ dir...)

I\'m using the method from twinkie\'s page, with Bart\'s updated \'w2kall.bin, so dirs are /ASRV/i386     /WPRO/i386/  etc.
It doesn\'t use the UENGLISH structure.

Any ideas?

btw, thanks to everyone involved in all the info given here /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: fulattrix on March 12, 2002, 08:05:39 AM
hey guys I have been able to make a 3 in 1 cd according to the manual given by twinkie.My cd boots properly in all 3 different flavours.I have slipstreamed sp2 too.I have not changed the \"setupp.ini\" file.Now during installation it says
\"setup cannot find EULA. setup cannot be continued.\"How can this problem be solved?which file(s)are responsible for dislplaying/checking whether EULA is aggreed or not?Can that file(s) be altered?OR can this be done by unattened instal?
Can somebody help me to make a unattened file ONLY TO SKIP THE \"EULA\" PART.friends please please help me.
...fulattrix
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: fulattrix on March 12, 2002, 10:28:04 AM
hey,I have also expirienced the same problem of eula.u got any solution?If yes please please mail me on fulattrixEmail Removed
thanking you in anticipation
fulattrix...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on March 12, 2002, 11:04:45 AM
Try using unattended setup. When booting directly from a CD using a file called winnt.sif (textfile) on a floppy or a *.txt file when using winnt.exe or winnt32.exe. The winnt.sif can be integrated on the CD, you have the instructions earlier in this thread.

In the [Unattended] section there has to be a key OemSkipEula with the value \"Yes\". Like this:

[Unattended]
OemSkipEula=\"Yes\"

Read more about this in the Unattended.doc. I think it is on the original CD under SupportTools within the deploy.cab.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on March 12, 2002, 04:34:19 PM
I know that the HighPoint Technologies HPT370  drivers are built into XP, does anyone know of a way to incorprate  these drivers into the 2k  3-1 cd, so installing directly to a HighPoint raid device is possable and eliminating the need for the \"magic\" floppy disk ???

I\'m sure it shhould be posable as XP has the drivers build in!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on March 12, 2002, 06:52:43 PM
\"magic\" floppy disk ??? If you mean pressing F6 in the beginning, yes there is a way.

Put the files Hpt3xxNT.inf, Hpt3xxNT.sys and Txtsetup.oem into the $OEM$Textmode folder. Then in winnt.sif the following sections:

[MassStorageDrivers]
\"Hpt370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller for Win2000\"=\"OEM\"

[OemBootFiles]
Hpt3xxNT.inf
Hpt3xxNT.sys
Txtsetup.oem

Then you have have to modify the [disks] section txtsetup.oem so it points to the distribution point and of course OemPreinstall=Yes in the [Unattended] section
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Asterix on March 14, 2002, 04:38:28 PM
Use Linux instead of that piece of [censored]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on March 15, 2002, 05:41:29 AM
In addition to the files mentioned by Fjellu, you should also verify if there is a *.cat file available for the HPT370 and copy it also to the Txtmode folder.

Also there is a very important modification in the [disks] section of the Txtsetup.oem file you will also have to make in order for this to work.  You must replace the backslash \"\" in the path with a period \".\" .  Without this modification there will still be a reference to a floppy drive for the drivers.

The following resource link gives a good explanation of this process.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...b;EN-US;Q288344 (http://\"http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q288344\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2002, 12:35:26 AM
Hello All,

I have made 3 in 1 Win 2k CDROM, yet I get very strange (rather funny) error: \"Please insert SP2 disk into drive A:\"
press enter to continue
press F3 to quit

I am thinking that I slipstreamed SP2 incorrectly.

Thanks a lot to makers of this terrific HOWTO guide. Exellent job guys!!

Thank you
/Alex
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Jackeroo on March 18, 2002, 04:05:09 AM
you should put the file \"CDROMSP2.TST\" that created by the SP2 installation program to the root of the cdrom
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2002, 05:24:45 PM
I got similair problem but it is after the install completes and i add windows components.  It askes for the sp2 disc.  The only way i thought of to resolve this is to extract sp2 to my 3in1 disc. please letme know if this is a known problem or if im going to have to procede with the extraction option.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2002, 09:44:33 PM
I am having a similar problem when i am able to install but after install it ask me for sp2 disc when i add  windows componets IE DNS server please advise me what to do
cheers
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Bill Marriott on March 23, 2002, 02:11:55 PM
If you are using the www.tech-hints.com site to compile the cd, the downloads for the asrv, wsrv and pro bootfix files are incorrect.  The files that are out there right now still have the uenglishwpro etc listed as the source path.  That is the reason that you are not able to see the EULA.  You can go into each of these folders and change the txtsetup.sif so that it points to the correct folder.  Edit with text editor and do a search for UENGLISH.  Just make the path appear as pro, server or adv_srv depending on which files you are editing.  Hope this helps.  I am going to email [email protected] and let them know that those files are out of date, especially if you are using the w2kall.bin file.
On another note, i have followed the instructions to extract the files from floppy and apply the various version to those folders, the wpro, wsrv and asrv folders.  In the instructions, it says there are supposed to be 107 files with another folder with two files under it.  My folders are only showing 105 files with the folder + two files under it.  I can send a txt file with the listings to anyone who can tell me what files i am missing or what step i am missing.
Thanks.
bill marriott
[email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on March 29, 2002, 03:16:54 AM
Bill,

Please refer to \"page 7\"of this thread for my resolution to this problem that you seem to be having.  As per the instructions, there are 107 files total extracted from the \"CDBoot\" image files.  You seem to be missing the \"System32\" folder which also contains 2 additional files.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on April 03, 2002, 03:19:45 AM
eekarum,
i notice you put the HPT370 Mass Storage Driver in TextMode dir


Does it work well?

my case is that when i put the file in the TextMode,i can use
winnt /u:unattend.txt /s:xxxxxxx
and
winnt32 /unattend:unattend.txt

to automate install the drive

but when I burn it to  CD,it always complains like below:

File txtsetup.oem caused an unexpected error (18) at
line 1041 in F:nt1privatentosbootsetupoemdisk.c

Press any key to continue.

Could you post your txtsetup.oem file and TExtMode directory  tree here

thanks  very much

Sorry for my poor English:)
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Sic1Nine on April 04, 2002, 01:31:57 AM
Did you modify the txtsetup.oem file?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: apollo on April 11, 2002, 06:25:34 AM
I\'ve been trying to create a multi boot CD(win98/win2k/winXP).
The problem is that my floppy drive is usb connected(it won\'t boot and will not works under dos mode).

Any idea where can I download such a ready made bootable CD\'s iso file?

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on April 11, 2002, 12:38:06 PM
With Twinky\'s webpage I was able to build a 5 OS bootable CD without effort.  The problem we are running into is a minor one but would help out greatly if we can find a fix. All of the Win2K OS\'s work great.  NT workstation works great after having to delete the OEM in the Pid and replacing it with 270, that will fix the cd key thing.

Problem is that when you are loading NT server it goes to find you Controller card and can not find it.  If you try to add it, it will ask you to put Disk 3 in the CD-ROM.  It seems that it has trouble finding controllers cards and said it can not set up your hard drive.  Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

The Marine
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The Sandman on April 15, 2002, 02:21:08 PM
I just stumbled across Oz\'s / TheFlames / Twinkies installation instructions on creating the 3-in-1 Windows 2000 CD.  Everything appeared to go OK when I created the CD, but when I boot from it I get the error:

Running xxxxSECT.DAT
No Emulation Type Image (Raw)
00000800000000001

for all 3 menu choices.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: TheMarine on April 18, 2002, 12:07:03 PM
Have you look at Twinkie\'s website? http://www.tech-hints.com/ (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/\") If you do it exactly like he instructs it will work fine. I had no problems with W2k only NT.  Still trying to work it out.  Twinkie is on the money there.

The Marine
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2002, 08:14:56 AM
Ok, well, I am tryin to create a xp multiboot cd, but everytime I trym, it gives me an error sayin i need 4GB free, I have 17GB free, has anyone else run into this, or know why I get this error?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: salisbury on April 24, 2002, 11:46:39 AM
I am interested in building a Windows 2000 Pro bootable CD.
I need to be able to run this from a laptop without a hard drive for remote access to a network.  Can you provide the necessary steps I can follow to make such a bootable CD?
Will I be able to load modem drivers to access the corporate network?
Thank You,
Terry Salisbury
[email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on April 25, 2002, 01:03:29 AM
TheMarine - I believe your problem stems from the fact that the way to create these cds is by using symbolic links to make it all small enough to fit on one cd.  Now, seeing as how NT and 2k are 2 different OS\'s the problem comes from that they both have the same strusture, so it trys to combine NT and 2k by using 2k\'s files, instead of NT 4.0, the only way to fix this is to figure out a way to change the structure of either NT or figure out some way to tell it NOT to use symbolic links for the NT part.  Hope this helps.  Im still trying to figure out how someone made a .NET and XP CD with the 3 .net servers and 2 XP\'s, cuz I still get an image size of over 1 GB with the .net and xp, maybe someone can explain which optimization they used.  Also, salisbury, no, you cannot make a disc like that.  IT HAS to be installed, the only thing that comes close is a win95 CD that allows you to run everything, but all registry setting are null and void because the CD isnt read/write, only read. So any changes made after burning the CD will not take.  Also, I have tried making this CD, and it isnt easy.  I seem to run into some problem down the road.  But as far as an NT bootable CD, the only way to do this is find the embedded port of it and run that from CD.  Now, if anyone would care to explain how to make win95/98 run solely from cd, it would be greatly appreciated, I have read the only Doc on how to make it, but I still cant get it to work.  Please, dont give me a link to that document, Ive tried, printed and created steps, I need someone who has done this and made it work.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: mr_daemon on April 25, 2002, 11:45:43 PM
you need to add the cdrompst.tst to your directory holding the win2k files w/ slipsteaming (ie c:cd  NOT c:cdi386)  That files comes from the bootfiles.  Good Luck.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2002, 03:07:33 PM
Anyone who has created a .net and xp all in one cd, please tell me how you did it.  I dont think it can happen, cuz even with all optimizations, it still reads like XP Pro and Home are combined, and then .net web, server, enterprise server are all combined seperate from xp, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2002, 09:28:28 AM
hi
ive got same error like Sandman:
\"
Running xxxxSECT.DAT
No Emulation Type Image (Raw)
00000800000000001
Please enter...blabla\" and than when i press any key ,setup starts and everything looks okey.But how to remove this error ?
 koszopal
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on April 29, 2002, 09:52:50 AM
ive got simmilar error
but after this error i could enter to setup
could any1 tell me what to do with this error ?
 koszopal
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on May 01, 2002, 04:08:18 AM
Where you able to make a boot menu for a bootable CD rom? If so could u let me know how you did it? Email me at MikeThommEmail Removed
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: kruemelmonster52 on May 09, 2002, 05:45:10 AM
@aCaRo from Page 15:
i had the same problem, but the solution is very easy: just grab the missing file from the %DRIVE%:ROOTUENGLISHADV_SRVI386 and copy it into %DRIVE%:ROOTASRV

in addition, you\'ll need 3 files for make it working: the \"vgaoem.fo_\" (you were talking about), the \"c_437.nl_\" and the \"kbdus.dll\"

hope this was useful

but now my problem :-)
the textmode-installation works fine till he\'s copying all the files to the hdd (just before the 1st reboot) and then he\'s asking me about a \"mdmrpci.inf\" - file. i can skip this error and he continues installing without errors.i was looking for it on every w2k-cd, but i\'ve found nothing.

does anyone have an idea?

(found the file on my winxp pro cd, maybe it\'s working, i\'ll try that)

=> so here i\'m back, the xp-file has worked.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on May 10, 2002, 01:32:23 AM
This is a amazing thread...its only about bootable windows cd\'s yet it just wont die. Does someone have this entire thing in a saved file??? or a .txt.??
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: kruemelmonster52 on May 10, 2002, 05:08:50 AM
small problem over here:
my win2k 3-in1 works just fine, but my xp 2-in-1, my nt 2-in-1 won\'t.
with xp, i get the \"eula-not-found\"-error while nt is telling me i should insert the nt-cd (after agreeing the eula)

as i\'ve seen some more problems with \"eula-not-found\" in this thread i hope that somebody has yet found a solution.

greets from germany
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: kruemelmonster52 on May 10, 2002, 01:08:03 PM
got my nt 2-in-1 working. i made everything according to www.tech-hints.com - guide, but he has forgotten something.
when reading \"preparing the bootfolders\", he\'s telling [indent]In reply to:

Then you will now need to copy the file BOOTFIX.BIN from each of the I386 folders to the respective folders under ROOT:
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHNT4WKSTI386
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHNT4SRVI386

From there copy BOOTFIX.BIN respectively to:

%Drive%:ROOTNT4W
%Drive%:ROOTNT4S


[/indent]

but there\'s no bootfix.bin!!! but as it\'s the the archives (nt4s.zip and nt4w.zip), you can get it working by copying the bootfix.bin into both the folder with your extractet bootdisk and your i386-folder.

2nd: if anybody has a working w9x x-in-1 cd, i\'d like to get the autoexec.bat and config.sys of the bootimage you were using.

thx
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on May 11, 2002, 11:14:44 AM
Kruel - hello

the EULA problem you are having is probably from having txtsetup.si_ still in one of yourf olders, check the XPHM,XPPR,NTW,NTS folders for the file, you should have txtsetup.sif in there also, if you got from twinkie.  If it isnt, do and \"extract /e txtsetup.si_ txtsetup.sif\" then open with notepad and fill out the part about EULA and serial number if you like. \"XP is the only one you need serial for, the others you can change the PID in setupp.ini \"last 3 digiits to 270\"


Also, I added 98SE to my W2K-3in1 CD, so now its W2k/W98 5 in 1 - this is my autoexec.bat and config.sys

OK, well, just noticed I changed the layout and cut that part out, gotta go make the cd again, will reply later with exactly what it says.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on May 13, 2002, 02:27:14 PM
I have the same problem - is there a solution. Anyone?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on May 13, 2002, 03:50:46 PM
When you see:
Running xxxxSECT.DAT
No Emulation Type Image (Raw)
00000800000000001
Press Enter to ...

That is not an error.  That is the boot file from the Microsoft CD.  If you press a key you will start setup like normal, otherwise it boots to the HD.  If no OS is on the machine it will error out.  No way around that so far.  The No Emulation Type Image (Raw) is the type of image we are all using.  The serial number.... got me.  I got the file from Bart.

You are correct.  I forgot on the NT page to mention that the bootfix.bin file is in the zip not on the CD.  It was not until 2000 that you could skip the CD and boot to harddrive if you left the CD in.  NT4 CD\'s will just keep booting on the CD over and over because they are missing the file.

As to the EULA txt missing.  Some people get it and others don\'t.  Same with the \"Value 0 on the line in the section [SourceDisksFiles] with  key \"SP2.cab\"\" error.  Some users have listed that it has to do with the order of steps while making the CD.  IE:
slipstream sp2 then modify txtsetup.sif, not the other way around.  SP2 modifys txtsetup.sif.  So making the boot floppies and then applying SP2 will result in errors.

As to missing files during install and pressing F3 to bypass.  To date (I could be wrong) 100% of those errors have been due to a bad copy of the CD.  Lint or a scratch on the original CD.

Also, I just updated the Win 9X/ME section of the manual.  Take a look and drop a line if more is needed.

Thanks,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: omni871 on May 13, 2002, 04:29:30 PM
I would also like to know where the bootfix.bin got created or taken from.  Cause it is not where the directions say it is and I would like to create one for NT 4.0 TSE.

In reply to:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then you will now need to copy the file BOOTFIX.BIN from each of the I386 folders to the respective folders under ROOT:
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHNT4WKSTI386
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHNT4SRVI386

From there copy BOOTFIX.BIN respectively to:

%Drive%:ROOTNT4W
%Drive%:ROOTNT4S



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: omni871 on May 14, 2002, 08:05:19 AM
So where do you get the xxxxSECT.DAT file if it is not on the CD?  On the site I just downloaded the zip files, but where were those files gotten to modify?  The only reason I ask is because I need to get one for NT 4 TSE and I don\'t know it is.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: kruemelmonster52 on May 14, 2002, 02:08:29 PM
just go to www.tech-hints.com, there\'re all files you need
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: omni871 on May 14, 2002, 08:07:58 PM
sorry for the multiple posts......accidental
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on May 15, 2002, 10:35:08 AM
I sent a note to Bart about TSE and hopefully will hear back from him soon.  I don\'t have a TSE disk so I can\'t test out that one, sorry.  I had assumed that the boot sector for TSE would be the same but I could be wrong.  I will post once I have more info.  

As to where did the dat files come from.  Well Barts site.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Hacki Hacker on June 26, 2002, 04:55:55 PM
TO create a setup CD is easy with all this hints.
Can anyone tell me hoe to create a CD that brings you to a command promt?
I nned to boot W2K or XP from CD with the possibility to run copy commands from the command prompt.
Solution?
As I understand I need to find out how to build a BOOTIMG.BIN and a BOOTCAT.BIN for Windows 2000.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on June 28, 2002, 06:35:10 PM
I posted a DOS.IMA file at my site that will do that for a multi boot CD just recently.  Try that.

I am also looking at SmartStart from Compac to develop a format and install command from the cd with one key.  I am getting a lot of help on that one.  Should have a draft soon.

May be more info on the adding SRP1 and later hotfixes to the 2000 install as well soon.  Just got an email with the draft in it.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2002, 08:01:21 PM
I need the files which are on the original NT4CD. I got most of the NT4 editions copied.

Please post them up here.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2002, 07:54:28 PM
hey twinkie, any ideas on how to bring up recovery console in 2k with the ability to do anything?  Basically something like this:
A way to bring up recovery console without logging in to an install and a way to add it as a boot option like \"1) Boot into Recovery Consoles\"

There are four (4) environmnet variables that can be used in the Recovery Console to expand the functionality:

These variables default to FALSE, but you can set them to TRUE:

set allowwildcards = true - Allows you to use wildcards with some commands (such as \"del *.bak\").

set allowallpaths = true - Allows you to change directories (the cd command) to include all folders on all drives.

set allowremovablemedia = true - Allows you to copy files from the hard disk to a floppy disk or other supported removable media.

set nocopyprompt = true - Allows you to copy files without being prompted to continue when you are overwriting an existing file.

You must enable the SET command in the recovery Console using any of the following:

         The Security Configuration and Analysis snap-in in Microsoft Management Console (MMC)

         The Domain Controller Security Policy in Administrative Tools.

         The Domain Security Policy in Administrative Tools.

         The Local Security Policy in Administrative Tools.

Use Local Policies / Security Options to enable Recovery Console: Allow floppy copy and access to all drives and all folders.

Then issue a secedit /refreshpolicy machine_policy to initiate a policy refresh. Once the policy is applied, you can use the SET command to set any/all of the four environment variables to TRUE.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: mobius on July 04, 2002, 12:42:33 AM
I\'ve been trying to make a spanish 3 in 1, windows 2000 bootable cd, i\'ve been able to get it to boot from the cd, when i select an option i also get Running xxxxSECT.DAT No Emulation Type Image (Raw) like some other people but if i press a key to continue, it starts the boot process but it is in english, i wanted it to be in spanish. I followed the directions from tech-guide.com but instead of uenglish i used uspanish and used the boot images from the windows 2000 in spanish cds. is there something that i did wrong to cause this? thanks.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2002, 01:23:45 AM
Twinkie,
I am doing an XP all, and 98 SE multiboot CD. You say in the guide at www.tech-hints.com, place the modified SETUPLDR.BIN, TXTSETUP.SIF, and BOOTFIX.BIN in the folders XPPR and XPHM respectively. I have a question. I used WinImage to see what was on the Floppy images. I noticed that the files mentioned above are in there. I don\'t think they are edited. I think I might have to inject these files into the boot Images. The XPROOT.ZIP with DISKEMU.CMD, DISK1X.BIN, and LOADER.BIN, how do you know that these files read the Images and the other files place in XPHM, and XPPR? The EULA.TXT missing problem could also be caused by this. I need an explanation about this because I don\'t have CDRW. I only have CDR.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on July 08, 2002, 05:42:28 AM
Even with a CD-RW it is better to get hold of Virtual PC from Connectix.com. For troubleshooting purposes, checking your project with Virtual PC is more efficient and timesaving.

You just close down Virtual PC if something goes wrong, make adjustment to your project and boot up Virtual PC again.

I strongly recommend  it for all types of CD projects.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: narene on July 08, 2002, 10:00:08 PM
I don\'t get it. Can Virtual PC emulate the beginning of boot? With the file as an ISO? I thought Virtual PC was to allow multiple operating systems run at the same time. Anyway, please type the instructions. I am only 11 years old, and have a lot of things to learn. I though it was Virtual Drive, from some other company, which let\'s you emulate CD Drive in Windows?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on July 09, 2002, 04:11:46 AM
Virtual PC emulates also the boot process. The file as an ISO and loaded with Virtual Drive, Virtual CDRom os some othe similar software. I think even Nero has something.

I prefer Virtual CDRom, it´s small and does the trick. You just need two files, the program VCDControlTool.exe (23kb) and the driver VCdRom.sys (8kb). The trick is to find out on the net.

For making the ISO use CDRwin
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2002, 05:53:40 PM
I am gettting an error when I try Virtual PC with my ISO. It says, Error (some hex code i think), and stops there. It won\'t even go into the menu! Please help someone on the board!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on July 15, 2002, 06:39:13 AM
Some hints which I have found myselt. Be sure to make a w2k pc with Virtual PC. Increase the ram amount to Virtual PC if possible. When loading Virtual PC do not have any other CD:s in you normal drives. Only have one iso loaded.

From the file menu try resetting the Virtual PC. It sometimes \"hangs\".

If you still get the error try burning the iso to a cd and check if it is really bootable and doesnt give the same error when booting the PC.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2002, 03:45:45 AM
I run xp with about 30MB Ram left out of 128MB! Damn it. It is like WTF!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on July 22, 2002, 11:04:45 AM
Hey all,
Update time again.  Fjellu sent in some great documents for slipstreaming SRP1 as well as other hotfixes that are now up on the site.  Also, worked on the oem and unattend section thanks to some other hints from Fjellu.  I also posted some files that need to be deleted from your CD in the event you get the no EULA.txt found.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: A-star on July 24, 2002, 02:55:23 AM
I made a boot cd following the manual but I\'ve got a few problems.
I made a unattended install file WINNT.SIF, but if I place it in the I386 folder, it just doesn\'t do anything, I tried to put it in the folder where the extracted bootfloppy\'s are, but got no result. If I put it on a floppy and use it from there, I\'ve got no problems.

Also I\'ve made my own custom install of IE 6.0, I included mdac in the setup but it stops on a EULA screen, anyone knows how to bypass this automatically?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on July 24, 2002, 03:08:23 PM
It seems that the extracted the boot floppy disk folders might not be necessary at all, if you could edit the diskem1x.bin to point directly to the proper i386 folders and not to the extracted floppy disk folders, according to Twinkie.

However both diskem1x.bin and Barts w2kall.bin point to folders where the extracted floppies recide. The windows install process starts from the extracted boot floppies folders. The setup information is read immediately in the first fase of the install process. So you should put your winnt.sif file in the floppies folder. That way it will work.

For Data Access Components 2.70.9001.0 it should be enough to include the parameter \"/Q\", in order to avoid any questions. Be sure to choose \"Completely Silent Installation\" at the \"User Experience\" stage.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Ziak on July 25, 2002, 08:50:17 PM
I have made the 3in1 W2k and it works great. Thank you all who have provided the great info for making these CD\'s . I just tried to make a 2000 PRP/ XPPRO CD and i have ran into a little trouble. For some reason when i run the XPRO setup in Virtual PC before it gets to the first file copy phase it give me an error that it cant find an earler version of Windows and to put an earler version CD in. Strange thing is I have a Corporate Edition CD and have used it many times to do clean installs and never got this error. Just to make sure, I ran the same CD I copied files from to make the muti CD in Virtual PC and it worked fine. I am not sure what the problem is. I was thinking it might be the .dat or bin files, I followed the directions on Twinkie\'s Website. Was woundering if anybody might know what the problems is or if there might be some kinda of folder structor I could put on the multi CD so i dont have to have a 98 or 2000 Pro CD to complete the install of XPPRO from my multi CD.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on July 26, 2002, 02:11:07 AM
I ran into the same problem using the w2kall.bin from Twinkies site. The problem was a wrong SetupSourcePath in txtsetup.sif
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: glad2002 on July 29, 2002, 01:50:13 AM
hello friend
how did u do that creating multiple bootable os in one cd
please please tell me

and send me the reply on [email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2002, 05:27:53 PM
I know this is old but i\'m getting the same error when i try to put the Promise Fastrak onBoard RAID controler drivers on an bootable Windows 2000 CD.
Anyone solved this problem by now ?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on July 31, 2002, 02:54:15 PM
How can I create a boot menu on a bootable CD to have the following options work?

1. Boot From Hard Disk (Default)
2. Boot From CD ROM
3. Floppy Drive

Timer - 25 secs.

The idea here is to create what a bootable Windows CD gives you when you boot from it.

It gives you a selection menu to choose boot from hard disk or boot from cd, this prevents the cd from reinstalling over and over upon each reboot. Any ideas? I know it has to be some sort of link table configured in the config.sys, I created the menu, I just can\'t make the selections do what I need them to do.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 01, 2002, 10:43:31 PM
i made a 3 in 1win2000 but it says please insert the sp2 cd into drive a:,but i didn\'t made any sp2 with the original cd,how can i do,please tell me here:debug3000Email Removed
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on August 02, 2002, 12:54:05 PM
1) Check out Bart\'s site for a custom boot menu.  My site uses his info so you may find what you want at my site as well.  Of course it came from him so either way you are going to need his files.  www.nu2.nu

2) Are you using original files or download ones?  The downloaded ones come with SP2 in them.

Hope this helps,
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Fjellu on August 03, 2002, 03:28:44 AM
You get the \"insert sp2 cd\" problem most often because you don\'t have the file \'cdromsp2.tst\' in the root of the CD.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 03, 2002, 10:14:14 AM
I also followed the instructions from www.tech-hints.com and and getting the same error for the multi-boot cd. The irony is that I had already slipstreamed sp3 into pro, srv, adv srv (I have them burned on separate cd\'s). It gets this error for me when setup is loading machine specific data...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: snackwell on August 03, 2002, 11:07:30 AM
Hi. I followed Twinkies\' page to the letter. I am also getting the Please insert the disk labeled Service Pack 2 CD into Drive A: * Press enter when ready.

NOW READ THIS: ALL 3 VERSION OF WINDOWS 2000 (PRO, SERVER, ADVANCED SERVER) ALREADY HAVE sp3 SLIPSTREAMED (SERVICE PACK 3) and I DID INCLUDE THE CDROMSP3.TST IN THE ROOT DIRECTORY ROOT (IT IS ALSO IN EACH OF THE 3 DIR\'S FOR THE 3 VERSIONS)

Did someoen read this carefully to understand what I\'m doing? Is this a problem with the txtsetup.sif (since I get the error on all 3 installs from a beautiful boot). Is this a problem with the loadsector count from cdimage.

I get the same error with loader.bin AND w2kall.bin

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Bernieboy on August 04, 2002, 07:41:47 PM
You have to the copy the new
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHADV_SRVI386TXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHPROI386TXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHSERVERI386TXTSETUP.SIF
to
%Drive%:ROOTASRVTXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTWPROTXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTWSRVTXTSETUP.SIF
en edit SetupSourcePath =\"\" to \"UENGLISHADV_SRV\", \"UENGLISHPRO\" and \"UENGLISHSERVER\".

Good luck
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: snackwell on August 07, 2002, 05:06:58 PM
Well, that got rid of the SP2 Error but it still stops at the same spot, now with the following error:

7962 Professional
8632 Server
8649 Advanced Server

Where XXXX goes in the error message below:

Line XXXX of the INF file is invalid.

Setup cannot continue. Press any key to exit.

This is fun. The environmentalists here hate me now!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: snackwell on August 07, 2002, 05:11:04 PM
This was also using w2kall.bin instead of loader.bin
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: snackwell on August 07, 2002, 05:54:48 PM
Update: as I mentioned below about the DefaultPath=  in txtsetup.sif, evidently, the number of lines in the file is hardcoded somewhere, I deleted the two extra lines I had in [ ] which was the DefaultPath=c:winnt and the SetupSourcePath=\"\". I had wanted to keep the original settings as comment. I was able to install with the 2 extra lines removed and changing the DefaultPath=C:WINDOWS (at least through the blue screen part in Virtual PC 4.32 and am currently verifying on a test machine.

I tried it again with loader.bin and got the same error about the INF file (see end of this post).

I assume the INF file refers to is the DOSNET.INF. I did a search by line number in each file (using the goto feature of Microsoft Word) and it came to the line below:

d1,mdmrpci.inf

Update: the file is all the directories under ROOT in i386. The only thing was I had originally changed the default=c:winnt to default=c:windows and put the default=c:winnt inside [ ] so that the lines looked like this in the txtsetup.sif files:

[defaultpath=c:winnt]
defaultpath=c:windows
=================================================

You have to the copy the new
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHADV_SRVI386TXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHPROI386TXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTUENGLISHSERVERI386TXTSETUP.SIF
to
%Drive%:ROOTASRVTXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTWPROTXTSETUP.SIF
%Drive%:ROOTWSRVTXTSETUP.SIF
en edit SetupSourcePath =\"\" to \"UENGLISHADV_SRV\", \"UENGLISHPRO\" and \"UENGLISHSERVER\".
============================================================================

Well, that got rid of the SP2 Error but it still stops at the same spot, now with the following error:

7962 Professional
8632 Server
8649 Advanced Server

Where XXXX goes in the error message below:

Line XXXX of the INF file is invalid.

Setup cannot continue. Press any key to exit.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2002, 05:57:43 AM
Here is a kickass guide on how to do that.
It\'ll let you put multiple-windows install cd\'s onto
once cd (as long as it fits)

perfect for creating a
win98/win2000
boot cd

http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html\")

http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html\")

http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html\")


http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html\")



http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html\")



http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html\")



http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html (http://\"http://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: thordog on August 10, 2002, 07:15:01 PM
I think you can resolve the sp2 problem by removing cdromsp2.tst from the ASRV, WPRO, and WSRV folders.  When I did the 3in1 with 2k, all 3 versions had had sp2 previously slipstreamed, and I just removed cdromsp2.tst after slipstreaming sp3 for the 3in1.  Didn\'t run into any problems.

Hope this helps.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2002, 03:44:31 PM
i have solved the SP3 problem, inside the TXTSETUP.SIF files there are some references to sp2.cab.  the easiest thing to do is jsut copy the TXTSETUP file out of the W2KSP3 files. They are in the IP (Pro) IS (Server), and IA (Adv Server). Then just update the location of the setup from \"\" to the UENGLISH?? location.  

Anyway, I recieve another issue now, when i try setting up on of the OS\'s, it gets all the way to where it asks if I want to Setup, Repair, or ???.  I hit enter, and it tells me it cant find a previous version of windows, and that i need to put in my nt3.51, nt4.0, w95, or w98 cd to verify i am entitled to the upgrade...   This didnt happen on the sp2 bootable discs i made of these separetely.  Also, I have a winnt.sif file in the root directory.. is this the proper location?


thanks for the great topic and info.

louis
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: The_Flames on August 12, 2002, 07:55:25 PM
you want winnt.sif in each I386 folder, or they are just ignored!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2002, 09:24:59 AM
Please Help!!!  I have created a W2K mutli-boot CD (pro, svr, adv), using the W2Kall.bin boot method,  in which each OS installs perfectly, however I cannot get my WINNT.SIF file recognized!!  I have placed it in the respective I386 directories... and it doesn\'t work.  I have placed it in the directory where the extracted boot-disk files are.... and it doesn\'t work.   If I have winnt.sif on the floppy.... It Works!!  I am at a loss here, as the unattended portion is the most important part of the process for me.  I can use the floppy I suppose, but I would love to be ablet to get it to work from the CD.  Is there a file somewhere that points to default locations for the winnt.sif file??  Any input anyone?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2002, 09:48:55 AM
I have the same issue.  I have a W2K mutli-boot CD which works great, but I cannot get it to see of use the winnt.sif files, which I have tried to put in both the i386 directories and the floppy-disk-extracted direcotries.  If I put it on a floppy it works no problem.   If anyone has some insight to this I would much appreciate it
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Spector on August 14, 2002, 10:11:22 AM
Has NE1 seen the 3in1 .NET CD.  Nice boot menus and a few nice utils.  Would be nice to know how or what was used to create that?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2002, 03:54:47 PM
OK, I have the W2K multi-boot CD all rip-roarin\' and ready to go.  All 3 OS\"s work great through Virtual PC, but error when I cut the image and boot it in a real computer.  It boots, I get the menu (I am using w2kall.bin), I choose an OS and during the first phase it gives an INF error, saying that it can\'t find txtsetup.inf, or it is corrupt.  Why?  Help?  Please?  Anyone????
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2002, 10:13:26 PM
I have figured out how to create multiple i386 directories. Look at the txtsetup.sif file. (It\'s a plain text file in the i386 directory)
If you change the i386 in the [SourceDiskNames.X86] section to something else, that will take care of the source file location.
The other section is the [SetupData] The SetupSourcePath =
could be changed. I don\'t think you would require this change, but I thought I\'d mention it just in case.
I am extremely interested in how you modified the bin file though. Please provide more info.
Oh ya, one more thing that I\'m sure you know---There is a text file in the root of the CD that will identify it as a Windows Nt 4.0 or 2000 CD. The name of the text file is in the SourceDisksNames.x86 section (4.0 is cdrom_w.40)
Hope this helps!!
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on August 20, 2002, 01:07:27 PM
was this the first website in english this subject got started and resolved within a week?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: David on August 23, 2002, 11:46:22 AM
I keep seeing all these messages and it just seems to me liek one person will say this work adn another will say no no wait this is the only way.  I am one of those who would really like to jsut amke a win2k/win98se/ (and anyhting else i woudl like to put on it)   bootable cdrom with a boot menu   the only problem is i have no clue how.  And i have not really been able to find a guide with step by step instructions last i saw of oz\'s page it was an angelfire error page.  Does he have a different one up witht he guide.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: David on August 23, 2002, 08:28:33 PM
Sorry for the so recent post i figured it out execpt i cant run virtual pc 5 cause i only have a amd 350   is there any other progrma that is liek virtual pc that i could use
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Twinkie on August 26, 2002, 06:04:28 PM
Use google to search for 4.  It should be out there somewhere.  I have seen it also in the Kazaa search engine.

Wonder if this post will make it to the board since I mentioned Kazaa.  Hmmm..  not that I support warez or anything...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Avni on October 18, 2002, 01:25:11 AM
okay..i have a question related to all these posts here..
what if i already of different windows 2000 images with office 2000 and other small programs in it. I mean there is a little difference between each image, then how should i burn all of those images on one bootable cd which gives me the option of selecting the image i want. Should i use cdimage itself..or do i need to try something else. Please help me out here.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2002, 02:26:58 PM
\"File txtsetup.oem caused an unexpected error (18) at
line 1041 in F:nt1privatentosbootsetupoemdisk.c\"

I am encountering this problem after I do the $OEM$Textmode scheme. Has anyone here have a workaround for this?

My txtsetup.oem file, has this parameter:

[Disks]
d1 = \"AMI MegaRAID IDE Driver\", xpsp1, .
d2 = \"AMI MegaRAID IDE Driver\", xpsp1, .
d3 = \"AMI MegaRAID IDE Driver\", xpsp1, .
d4 = \"AMI MegaRAID IDE Driver\", xpsp1, .

[Defaults]
scsi = MegaIDE100_Whistler
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2002, 09:23:10 PM
Hello, I am using Bart\'s method (Multiple boot images (isolinux/memdisk)) But I can\'t get Win ME boot floppy work. System hang after load the image file
Here is my isolinux.cfg (partial)
label 5
    kernel memdisk
    append initrd=winme.img

do you get the same result ?? Thanks.

Regds
LAM Chi-fung
[email protected]
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2002, 02:15:00 PM
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2002, 02:44:48 PM
Seems to me that this way is too difficult, and complicated, you should try this \"bootable CD wizard\" at this site:

 http://bootcd.narod.ru/ (http://\"http://bootcd.narod.ru/\")

In Russian language but with included translator for english and others.
It took me ten minutes to have ready to burn.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on December 30, 2002, 04:29:15 PM
anyone else get this error
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2003, 05:08:37 PM
\"setup cannot find a previous version of windows\"
all other versions in win2k 3 in 1 work eccept asrv
i have redone all steps over and over (troubleshooting just about every damn file) with licensed versions of oem pro,server, and avanced server. and right before advanced server starts installing it says it cannot find previous version. the original cd installs fine slipping sp3 into all the i386 dir goes great no errors eccept asrv. im pulling my hair out someone shoot me some suggestions.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2003, 11:43:15 AM
try copying bootsect.bin setupldr.bin and txtsetup.sif from your i386 folder to where you put the disksets (ASRV?) - I had this problem because I had the old ones pre-sp3 and it wouldnt work...also, see if the i386 folders are the same...you may have deleted a folder to reduce size and accidentally deleted the wrong folder (unsure cuz the win9xmig/upg folders are what deals with prev. windows and such)...the only folder that you can successfully delete and such is compdata, any folder with \"upg or mig\" in them and \"lang\" other than that, all other folders need to be there, since I am sure you are using the full i386 folder, I would suggest moving those 3 files in the beginning, this was my problem saying it needed the cd or some stupid thing like that.  If that doesnt work, try a new boot loader.  I assume youre using diskemu or bootscriptor, but Im talking about what boot file they load, like wpro.bin for windows pro and such, find a new one for asrv, or just copy wpro.bin/dat and make it asrv.bin/dat...hope this helps, if it doesnt make sense, tell me and ill clean up my thoughts.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 18, 2003, 03:17:41 AM
Would you please post the step by step instructions on making the 3 in 1 w2k bootable disc slipstreamed with sp3 and if all possible fully unattended once an os is selected.
Thank you
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 21, 2003, 11:39:27 PM
Will you please give me the steps you took to make your 3 in 1 boot cd of w2k.  Thanks
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2003, 11:28:48 PM
Hi there
I have been reading and reading and reading some more on how to make 3 in 1 bootable cd of W2K slip streamed with sp3 but I can not seem to get it.  I followed all the instructions and made diagram of the whole thing so I don\'t miss a thing but at the end when I made the ISO image and tested it with the Virtual PC software I get NTDETECT failed after I select one of the os in the menu.  Could you and would you please help me.  Thanks
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2003, 02:52:01 AM
I get NTDETECT failed, what can I do
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2003, 11:35:59 PM
okie.....i\'ve read n tried and its not working here iether, grrrr.
Could someone send me there iso minus the actual OS files.
Shouldn\'t be very big. As well as any pertaining info.

thx

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thx.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: yhamm on January 30, 2003, 05:08:50 AM
I have created a Windows XP Home/Professional Multiboot CD but the *.cmd data in the root doesn\'t work when I start it in windows XP. Is that normal?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz. on February 06, 2003, 02:00:03 AM
Gee is this thread still alive!

Anyway the NTDETECT error has to do with \"Don\'t add the \",1\" ISO file extension\"

So make sure you dont have -y1 in the command line in CDIMAGE

I added that once to the line, and got that error, so reason why MS dont add it themself to their OS CD\'s.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on February 08, 2003, 11:10:36 PM
Thanks for the info but I did not have a -y1 in command line for cdimage, I did as the Tech-Hints.com (Windows 2000 Multiboot CD) site said.  Any thoughts.  Please
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2003, 02:35:54 AM
I followed tech-hints guide but I seem to get an error during the setup process. After the drivers finish loading, on the bottom of the screen, it says \"Setup is loading Win2k install\" and then a blue screen pops up. It says something about initialization failed. I was wondering how could I fix this?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2003, 06:54:48 PM
See Bart\'s bootable CD page at http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/\").

If your Windows XP files are already \"slipstreamed\" with a service pack you must also copy the win51ic.SPx or win51ip.SPx file.
This will prevent the CD asking \"put the SPx CD into drive A:\" during install.

It worked for me /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Avneet on March 27, 2003, 06:42:04 PM
hi plizz can u email the instructions and the software u used to make this CD..plizzz ..i really need it..thx

for ur help

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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Spiderman on March 28, 2003, 06:07:21 PM
hi ok ..i have been reading this thread but still havnt got wat i wanted...i want to make  multi boot cd containing windows 98 SE, windows 2000 Pro and windows XP Pro ..so is there anyway to do this..i really need to know .plizzz..so i hope someone can help me..

thx
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Houbi on April 13, 2003, 12:13:44 PM
Hi
I've been trying to make a Win2000/WinXP bootcd. However I cant get it to work. Win2000 will correctly boot but when I 'hit enter to install' it first asks for the EULA which cant be found. Making a WINNT.SIF took care of that error, however it now complains about not having a previous OS and enter CD something. Exact erorr message is: (directly translated from my lang)
The cd could not be read or it is not a cd with Windows NT 3.51 or 4.0
Insert the cd with Windows NT 3.51 workstation, Windows NT 4.0 workstation, Windows 95 or Windows 98.
* Press enter when CD is inserted
* Press F3 to exit

---------------
In my cdroot a folder called \"W2KP\" contains the I386 folder of win2000, I've tried both with SP3 slipstreamed and the original.
The 2kbootsector in the cdroot is hexedited to point to this folder. The setupldr.bin is hexedited to point to that folder and the txtsetup.sif is edited to point to that folder, however it wont find the eula or the folder at all it seems during installation. What is wrong?
I got the cdrom_ip.5 and cdrom_nt.5 in the root and in the W2kP folder.
I read something about txtsetup.sif being hardcoded could that be the prob?
Could it perhaps have to do with the letters being all caps or not?
--------------
And a note to all you f* lamers asking quote:
hi plizz can u email the instructions and the software u used to make this CD..plizzz ..i really need it..thx

No, it aint never gonna happen that anyone helps a lowlife like you that wont even try yourself but want someone to do all the work for you.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: MrU on April 18, 2003, 04:35:28 PM
[quote name=\'cybervyk\' date=\'Jun 1 2001, 02:43 PM\']I have read a number of posts here regarding the building of the Win2k boot CD.  I have succesfully done this many times since the first success.  I've also made a bootable Windows NT 4.0 Server CD with the 2000 bootimg.bin and bootfix.bin.
  I was, however, wanting to take it a step or two further.  I would like to be able to set up an optional boot that would enter either the Windows 2000 setup or the Windows NT 4.0 setup.  The first and most devastating problem is that they both want to run out of I386.  I have also succesfully hacked the bootimg.bin (seems to be a popular name for the boot sector image off the the 2000 CD) to start from a, say, 4386 or 5386 folder.  The boot is succesful, but the installation is very choppy because so much of the installation is hard wired to run from the I386 directory.
  I have not been able to find any help on the internet concerning the bootimg.bin, the boot sector from the cd.  Most all of the sites with instructions on building such a cd offer the file as a seperate download, the rest simply instruct someone to use (usually) CDRWin to rip it off of the 2000 CD.  But, I can not seem to find discourse with those who may be more familiar with how this tiny little program works.
  Anyone who has been inside of it would certainly recognize the "SETUPLDR.BINBOOTFIX.BINI386" at the end of the data section.  I'd mentioned that I was able to get it to run from "5386" for example by changing "BINI386" to "BIN5386".  I can do this for a number of boot sectors, but would rather find a way to get it to start from w2ki386 or     nt4i386.  
  Toward accomplishing this, I've come across two stumbling blocks.  First, I can not seem to get the thing to recognize more than four characters for a path, i.e., I cannot tell it to go to nt4i386.  The second stopping point is that I also cannot seem to specify a path any deeper than one off of the root.  Again, being limited to four characters, I tried to set up my files in a directory called simply 86 under another folder off of the root caled 4.  Hacking the boot sector file with 486 instead of I386 still did not work.
  Anyone have further insight into the nature of this beast?
  Thank you and please also give me feedback if I have been unclear.  I tend to do that from time to time.  =/

  Vic

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by cybervyk on 06/01/01 04:16 PM.</EM></FONT></P>[/quote]
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Evilvoice on April 19, 2003, 03:45:53 PM
Uhm, MrU what was your point, as this thread has developed wincdman has already been used by most people here, or those who do know about it dont want to use it, I have no idea why you posted that.  Ok, for Houbi, IM trying to understand but let me see if this helps.
1.  Create a folder to be root (this can be called root, or the name of the os's on the cd, i called mine w2k98)
2.  Make a folder for each os thats only 4 letters long under your root folder
  a.  Examples (w2kp, w2ka, w2ks, volp, volh, xpro, xhom, home, xppr, adsv, serv, wsrv, wpro) All these are good, but make sure you are able to tell which is which os
3.  Now, under this 4 letter folder make another folder, call this one nr1efre_en (this is for windows 2000 enterprise server, nr2pfre_en would be for xp pro, nr2efre_en would be windows 2003 enterprise and so forth and so on, you can use any folder name, but I like those as they go with the way microsoft actually names its cd's)
4.  Within this path root\4letter folder\nr??fre_en\ Put your i386 folder, you 0K files (cdrom_ip...blah blah blah), setup.exe and anything else you want (I only have for w2k pro the files cdrom_ip.5, cdrom_nt.5, cdromsp3.tst, autorun.inf, setup.exe, read1st.txt, readme.doc, spnotes.htm, and the folder i386 in nr1pfre_en).
5.  Within the I386 folder you can delete all folder with upg and mig if you do not intend to ever run an upgrade or migrate from another os, you can also delete the lang folder if you only want to use english, and you can delete the compdata folder (no idea what its for).
6.  DO NOT EDIT txtsetup.sif or setupldr.bin in this folder, ill get to it in a second
7.  Download the boot floppies for the os your gonna install.
8.  Extract the boot floopies (make sure you extract with pathname) to the 4 letter folder
9.  Edit setupldr.bin to point to your four-letter folder (should find either 3 or 4 instances)
10.  Edit txtsetup.sif to point to the path of your I386 folder (should look like \"\4letterfolder\nr1pfre_en\\"
11.  So within nr1pfre_en you should have an untouched setupldr.bin and an untouched txtsetup.sif.

And that should be it.  Youre done.  Pack the cd and boot it (as long as youre using a bootloader like bootscriptor, cdshell, or something - hopefully you know about those and are using them as you can just update them with the info to the w2k.bin or wxp.bin file.  Hopefully this is understandable - I opt for this way which is different from tech-hints or anyone here as I havent seen it displayed, because it makes the root of the cd look cleaner and without have a \"root\" folder /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Houbi on April 28, 2003, 03:51:23 PM


Evilvoice: Thx for the reply but I actually solved my prob some time ago  /smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

My mistake was putting the I386 files in a folder not called I386 but directly in a folder called W2KP or WXPP in the cdroot.
What I did was put these files in cdroot\WXPP\I386 and then I put the bootfloppy in cdroot\WXPP.
That miss got me quite pissed for a while though  /rolleyes.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':rolleyes:\' />
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: kog on June 06, 2003, 02:44:01 AM
Hello

I have a bootable cd that has 8 versions of windows XP (I didn't even know they had that many). I never have used it myself, but I have read the detailed instructions of how the cd was created. Quite nifty.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: ESiemiat on June 24, 2003, 12:55:53 PM
I am experiencing some strange behavior with Images I create with CDImage.exe v2.39 & v2.47. I can create ISO files using the -o switch just fine. I can even burn them to the CD without a problem. The trouble occurs if I later wish to copy the CD that was made from the ISO file.

What happens is the CD copies without errors, and on the surface everything looks fine. But when I do a binary comparison 1 or 2 files don't match; They are missing data at the end of them. If I copy all the files off the CD and recreate the ISO file all works OK for the initial burn, it's just copying that causes the problem. Any ideas why?

I have tried using EZCD, Nero, and Alcohol 120% with both normal and a 1:1 copy. Each time with the same problem. Even weirder is the fact that the same files error out each time off the same CD. But different ISO files cause different files to to get corrupted.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Space Between on June 25, 2003, 03:13:17 AM
You overburn???

also have you tried cdrwin or discjuggler???? both of those are good.

i ran into problems myself like that once.  what i did was copy the image
with cdrwin and extract all the files out using isobuster...worked fine.
however off the disc this wouldnt work right.

you did opt to use the HIGHTEST binary comparison when creating the .iso right?? the
tut on how to make the multi os cd with cdimage across the web seem to
not choose this option in the command line. It is a MUST that you use that
option or else this could result in cross-linked files getting corrupt or whatever.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: tbirke.de on June 27, 2003, 02:36:11 AM
Hallo,

my 3in1 cd's without SP, with sp1, dp2, sp3 works fine. Now i tried sp4. when setup runs i got the message that i have to insert the sp3 cd. The cdromsp4.tst is in the root directory.

Can anybody help?

Thanks
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: tbirke.de on June 27, 2003, 02:37:37 AM
the os is w2k....
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Major Disaster on June 27, 2003, 06:49:15 PM
-------Copied from other topic---------

I too am having a problem creating a working Slipstreamed Windows 2000 SP4 3-in-1 CD. Mine is always asking for the Service Pack 4 CD.

Now before you all jump in, here's some more info...

I have a fully working Windows 2000 SP3 3-in-1 CD. I am copying the CD contents to my harddrive, applying the slipstreaming process to each of the versions of Windows 2000, copying the cdromsp4.tst file to the root directory of my CD files, copying the new txtsetup.sif files to their respective bootdisk folders, editing the copy in the bootdisk folder to point to uenglish/xxxx based on the version of 2000, and then finally creating the iso and burning it to disk (CDRW).

Obviously, I am forgetting something, but what is it that am I missing?

thanks,
Jeff


PS. I am able to make individual SP4 CDs for each of the versions of Windows 2000, so I am obviously missing something here (especially if others are successful in making a windows 2000 3-in-1 cd with SP4 slipstreamed)...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Oz on July 01, 2003, 01:22:29 AM
You have to copy over the SETUPLDR.BIN into each boot folder too, then do a search and replace for the I386 with the name of the folder where it resides.
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Major Disaster on July 03, 2003, 02:44:55 PM
Well, thanks to someone on one of the other threads, the solution to my problem was that in the \UENGLISH\ directory structure I needed to have the CDROM_nt5, CDROM_iX.5, and CDROMSP4.tst files in the root of each of these structures.

Strange how my SP3 3-in-1 Windows 2000 CD didn't have this and worked fine.

thanks for everyone's help...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: tguy on May 24, 2004, 04:55:29 PM
Oz,

Where did you download the Windows 2000 3in1 CD from?  I have been looking all over for it.

I tried making my own copy but got emulation errors after selecting the OS version to install.

T
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Guest on May 24, 2004, 09:51:16 PM
Hey all,

I just stumbled upon this site...  wish i found it sooner, it would have saved me a lot of time.

Anyway...  I'm trying to make a multi-boot cd that will boot (among other things) directly into the Win XP recovery console.  I can get it to boot to the windows XP setup no problem, just can't get it directly into the Recovery Console.

BTW.. I'm using isolinux, and memdisk.

Thanks,
Jim
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Guest on May 24, 2004, 09:55:16 PM
[quote name=\'ESiemiat\' date=\'Jun 24 2003, 11:55 AM\']I am experiencing some strange behavior with Images I create with CDImage.exe v2.39 & v2.47. I can create ISO files using the -o switch just fine. I can even burn them to the CD without a problem. The trouble occurs if I later wish to copy the CD that was made from the ISO file.

What happens is the CD copies without errors, and on the surface everything looks fine. But when I do a binary comparison 1 or 2 files don't match; They are missing data at the end of them. If I copy all the files off the CD and recreate the ISO file all works OK for the initial burn, it's just copying that causes the problem. Any ideas why?

I have tried using EZCD, Nero, and Alcohol 120% with both normal and a 1:1 copy. Each time with the same problem. Even weirder is the fact that the same files error out each time off the same CD. But different ISO files cause different files to to get corrupted.[/quote]
 My best guess is that you created an iso image that doesn't conform to the iso standard.  During the copy, some files may get hacked to conform to the standard.

Jim
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: anona678 on September 03, 2004, 01:52:29 PM
Hi!

can someone please tell me once I've made the 3 in 1 image what command do I use on CDIMAGE.exe to re-create each single OS image again?

thanks in advancve
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: vipin kumar sahu on October 24, 2004, 02:37:54 PM
[quote name=\'Oz (AUS)\' date=\'Jun 14 2001, 08:28 AM\']Hi M8

Yes it is a tricky one. I have lately be looking into something similar, but I want 98SE and Win2kSP2 on the same install bootable CD. I have not yet figured out how to load the info about multiple sector in the bootcatalog file. What you are trying to do I guess is trickier with NT4 and NT5 working of the same install folder. But there probably is a workaround it.[/quote]
 hi,
dear sir/ma'm
plz tell me in detail how to create a multi bootable disk


thanks in an anticipation
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Guest_hitman on November 16, 2004, 06:00:54 PM
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Guest_Wraith on December 01, 2004, 02:43:15 PM
It's a long shot, but I'm hoping you guys are still around. Sorry for dredging out such an old thread, but I really need to get this done again.  I do on-site computer repair and I have to reload OS's for people who have misplaced their CD's fairly frequently. I Had a Win2k 3-in-1 that worked great, but somehow it got a deep scratch in it and no longer works. I have all three versions of Win2k and the redist. of SP4, I just need to know how to build another disk. I tried to download OZ's manual, but now the only thing there is another one of those INCREDIBLY annoying flash presentations telling me to click the SP2 info bar and DL the active X control. Even if I WAS trusting enough to do that, the info bar doesn't even show up! There's just nothing there but the flash!

Does anyone have a definitive set of instructions on how to do this yet?
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Guest_Wraith on December 01, 2004, 02:45:21 PM
Doesn't look like my first try went through. Hope I'm not double-posting here...
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Guest on December 21, 2004, 01:21:06 PM
I found a program called MagicISO. It works great forcreating multi-boot CD (http://\"http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-create-multi-os-cd.htm\") for installing multi-os.
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-cre...multi-os-cd.htm (http://\"http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-create-multi-os-cd.htm\")
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: Guest on April 22, 2005, 12:43:32 PM
Also, on Windows XP Professional CD,
if you burn the ISO with Nero, one file will get "edited"
If you burn it with CDRWIN, it will stay as it should.

The file in question is
..\I386\ASMS\6000\MSFT\WINDOWS\COMMON\CONTROLS\CONTROLS.MAN
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: imran on April 26, 2005, 05:23:46 PM
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: trane77 on June 14, 2005, 04:37:14 PM
Hey Everyone,

    THis is the first article i've seen that is actually correct.  This is for a multiboot DVD, however the instructions should work the same for a CD.  Excellent article

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Hope this helps Cheers
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: sarabjit Singh on November 07, 2005, 07:06:22 AM
Hello  
I was reading your postings at the techguide.com . But i didnt
understand much. Can you explain me how i can make my cd win2k bootable. I have
already slipstreamed sp4 in win2k. now i dont know how to make it
bootable. Second how can i make my cd bootable with multi operating systems.
And what type of operating systems i can include in that. I will be
very thank full for your help. Tell me the steps to to do these things.
Hope to hear from you soon. take care god bless u
 
Sarabjit Singh
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: sarabjit Singh on November 07, 2005, 07:06:56 AM
Hello  
I was reading your postings at the techguide.com . But i didnt
understand much. Can you explain me how i can make my cd win2k bootable. I have
already slipstreamed sp4 in win2k. now i dont know how to make it
bootable. Second how can i make my cd bootable with multi operating systems.
And what type of operating systems i can include in that. I will be
very thank full for your help. Tell me the steps to to do these things.
Hope to hear from you soon. take care god bless u. Plz contact me at scorpiosurdEmail Removed
 
Sarabjit Singh
Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
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Title: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s
Post by: valent5 on November 08, 2005, 01:46:16 PM
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