Post by: Jazkal2 on April 29, 2003, 10:08:24 PM
WindowsPE Homepage (http://\"http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/programs/sa/sam/winPe.asp\")
For those that have never heard of it:
It's a mini version of WinXP. It is small, will load off of a CD or Network, and is hardware independent. It's 32bit and a lot of tools that work in Win2k, WinXP, and Win2k3; will work in WinPE.
If you find anything, let me know please.
- Jazkal
Post by: geckopj on April 29, 2003, 10:25:47 PM
Post by: Josetann on April 29, 2003, 11:34:35 PM
Post by: Guest on April 30, 2003, 02:41:21 AM
/ohmy.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':o\' /> Is there a NEW released of WINDOWS /unsure.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':unsure:\' /> WHATS new in WINDOWS PE
Post by: The_Flames on April 30, 2003, 07:06:50 AM
it seems to be a make a PE disk using a xp cd and a current instalation
/smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />I believe that windows PE offical version is based on 2k ... so this could be very intresting
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Post by: Jazkal2 on April 30, 2003, 10:09:14 AM
/ohmy.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':o\' /> Is there a NEW released of WINDOWS /unsure.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':unsure:\' /> WHATS new in WINDOWS PE[/quote]This is not a new release of a Windows Desktop/Server OS. This is a new tool that will replace floppy disk DOS. It allows you to boot from a CD or Network, and it has most of the functions of WindowsXP.
WindowsPE is based on the WindowsXP Kernel. The drawback is that only Microsoft OEM's and Enterprise customers have access to it. But after looking over Bart's WinPE Homepage (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder\") , it has been brought to the masses.
- Jazkal
Post by: roids on April 30, 2003, 10:25:13 AM
I was poking around on a erd commander 2002 iso image and noticed the following ini file
its called winbom.ini
and contains
[Factory]
WinBOMType=WinPE
Reseal=No
[WinPE]
Restart=No
[PnPDriverUpdate]
[PnPDrivers]
[NetCards]
[UpdateInis]
[FactoryRunOnce]
[Branding]
[AppPreInstall]
I guess winternals is using winPE to make its erd commander cds now
Post by: roids on April 30, 2003, 10:27:03 AM
Post by: Guest on May 01, 2003, 05:22:09 PM
Post by: Jazkal2 on May 01, 2003, 05:24:48 PM
Are you using an off name NIC?
- Jazkal
Post by: Guest on May 01, 2003, 06:00:35 PM
Are you using an off name NIC?
- Jazkal[/quote]
Well I built it off an install in a vmware virtual machine. I tried to test it in that same virt machine and no luck. I tried it on my desktop machine and no luck. My desktop has a common intel nic. Even freebsd and openbsd support it with their default installs.
Post by: gosh on May 01, 2003, 07:01:42 PM
f:\winpe\mkimg.cmd f: f:\temp f:\winpe.iso
where:
f:\winpe has winpe build tools
f: is your xp cd
f:\temp is a temporary folder
f:\winpe.iso is the cd image you want to make.
That's it! The site listed above, http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/\") , make a tool to automate this process. I looked at the tool, and it just seems really confuzing and poorly made. Why make a tool for something you can do in 1 short step? In my above steps, all you did is copy a folder to the hard drive, put in the xp cd, and run the above command. Bart's way is to download a file, run a tool that is buggy, then it makes the image.
In my opinion, there's been tools made lately to automate things for newbies, like that slipstream tool at flexbeta.com, that just end up causing problems. Do we really need a tool to make windows pe? Rather than dumbing down things to the lowest person, why not give people the info to do it themselves?
Oh well, use the tool if you want. If you want the winpe build files PM me and ill PM you a small 300k file that lets you make windows pe - no tool necessary.
-gosh
Post by: captdilly on May 01, 2003, 11:54:44 PM
f:\winpe\mkimg.cmd f: f:\temp f:\winpe.iso
where:
f:\winpe has winpe build tools
f: is your xp cd
f:\temp is a temporary folder
f:\winpe.iso is the cd image you want to make.
That's it! The site listed above, http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ (http://\"http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/\") , make a tool to automate this process. I looked at the tool, and it just seems really confuzing and poorly made. Why make a tool for something you can do in 1 short step? In my above steps, all you did is copy a folder to the hard drive, put in the xp cd, and run the above command. Bart's way is to download a file, run a tool that is buggy, then it makes the image.
In my opinion, there's been tools made lately to automate things for newbies, like that slipstream tool at flexbeta.com, that just end up causing problems. Do we really need a tool to make windows pe? Rather than dumbing down things to the lowest person, why not give people the info to do it themselves?
Oh well, use the tool if you want. If you want the winpe build files PM me and ill PM you a small 300k file that lets you make windows pe - no tool necessary.
-gosh[/quote]
Well the OEM Preinstallation Kit is only legally available to OEM's. I know you can warez it, but the tool that Bart provides is completely free, and legal.
Post by: Jazkal2 on May 02, 2003, 07:44:29 AM
I agree. The whole point to Barts tool, is that WinPE isn't available to the masses (Legally). I happen to work for a company that does have a Legal right to it.
On a side note, I'm wondering if Bart's tool does away with any of the WinPE in-built handicaps? Such as rebooting after 24 hours.
- Jazkal
Post by: Guest on May 29, 2003, 05:39:35 PM
Post by: gosh on May 30, 2003, 09:17:34 AM
gosh
Post by: Jazkal2 on May 30, 2003, 02:46:05 PM
Sorry, I was under the impression that he wrote his own build. Where did you get your info? This is the first I've heard of it.
- Jazkal
Post by: royalbox on May 31, 2003, 06:48:56 AM
Microsoft asked bart to remove pe builder from his site as it contained copyrighted files.
But putting that aside, are you saying that you can make a winPE type disc like bart's program does, without a copy of winPE?
UPDATE:
it's OK, I've just seen your other post about this.
Post by: Guest on June 12, 2003, 02:56:55 PM
I like gosh's file though
/biggrin.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':D\' /> , and suggest ya all consider saving it for P2P goodness in the future.
Post by: gosh on June 18, 2003, 02:37:53 AM
Post by: Bolean on June 18, 2003, 02:54:26 AM
What to do with that files?
Post by: gosh on June 18, 2003, 08:08:22 PM
If youre just gonna edit my posts and call me a pirate, i'll leave this site and go some place else.
-gosh
Post by: Jazkal2 on June 19, 2003, 05:00:44 PM
Your correct, and you can sign up for free to become a M$ OEM at http://oem.microsoft.com (http://\"http://oem.microsoft.com\")
Then you are using WinPE legally.
Post by: scalar on June 20, 2003, 12:42:43 AM
The 3 or more is the key.. how many of you have bought an OEM license via NewEgg or some such? Then how many of you wanted like 3 or 4 OEM license CDs? I'll bet very few people have ever ordered more than one copy, so your chances of getting the preinstall kit are much less.
So, basically for a source, you should look to NewEgg or other nerd-oriented parts stores that will sell OEM licenses with some other inexpensive bits of hardware.
-Scalar