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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: November 07, 2003, 02:41:35 PM »

goddam hippies. "free software" does not always mean free in the free beer sense. more often people mean it in the free speech sense. if nobody gave mandrake any money, you wouldn't be able to look forward to the next release. dumbass. if you can oafford it, sign up for mandrakeclub, if not, wait, or buy a magazine with the isos on the coverdiscs (linux format (UK) has them on the front this month... £6, 3 cds, full OS, great mag)

First of all, you should be better to wait for the public release because Mandrake is going to add new patches. What you find in a magazine, is just a copy og what has been released to Clubers. If you want to support Mandrake, it's not a good idea to buy them anyway.

Also, FREE SOFTWARE for me is FREE, without cost. Many commercial distros are fully comparable to free ones (Debian, Slackware, ...). Commercial distros just added some configuration tools, a graphical installer, sometimes an updater and some facility.
No real and deep changes, so  the OS is based on the work of the Linux community, not on softwarehouses efforts.

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Software / Fedora

« on: November 07, 2003, 02:02:45 PM »

Has anyone tried Linux Fedora new release?

If so, what about it?

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: November 07, 2003, 07:06:22 AM »

It seems Mandrakesoft is working on some bugs, so it should be better to wait official releases in order to obtain a more bug free distro.

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: November 05, 2003, 11:08:01 AM »

That's allows you to download the raw tree, from which you can create your isos.

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: November 03, 2003, 03:02:53 PM »

For all who are interested, Mandrake announced this:

Update Nov 3rd, 2003: due to the LG issue the public release of Mandrake 9.2 ISOs has been delayed for a few days.

From: Mandrake download page - Click on the second Now button.

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: November 03, 2003, 07:26:37 AM »

It's really ridiculous now: three days later the annouced date for the public realease, Mandrake is not giving anything: no information, no iso images. http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':angry:\' />

I downloaded the raw tree, made the four CDs of the cooker, and tried to install it on my notebook (DELL Inspiron 8000) where Mandrake 9.1 runs perfectly.
I met the following problems:

1) The setup program froze at the end of the third CD, when he asked me to insert the fourth. I rebooted and restarted installation from scratch and this time it didn't crashed. Maybe I waited too much and system tried to go into standby, but I'm not sure. This never happend neither under Mandrake 9.1 setup, nor under RedHat and Slackware setups.

2) The ACPI support doesn't work properly. I can't switch my notebook off without pressing the button. Halting the system make Linux save data, switch the LCD panel off and wait with the power light still on.
On Mandrake 9.1 I could switch it off from KDE, just enabling ACPI from Mandrake Control Center. Now this doesn't work. http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':blink:\' />

3) I don't agree with the choice of Mandrake to remove shortcuts to Konsole, Control center and Documentation  from the panel, leaving only K, Desktop and Home. But this is a little problem, which can be easily solved.

So, I can say my first experience with Mandrake 9.2 was not that good. I like the LILO splash screen, and the revised Galaxy theme, which has a better quality look. But If I have to spend hours to obtain what I already had with Mandrake 9.1, I'm not going to upgrade.

Anyway, I'll wait for the official release of iso images, even if I don't think there will be many differences.
I've always considered Mandrake a good distro, but now I'm looking elsewhere for a really free distro, maybe with less look innovations, but with a best care in hardware support and compatibility, in the case the the iso release will still have the same problems.

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: November 01, 2003, 12:09:01 PM »

I made a mistake: I told the mkcd tool is in the root directory of the raw tree, but it's located in the misc directory of the same tree.

Moreover, it can be run using the MakeCD script.

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: November 01, 2003, 10:26:12 AM »

If you're in a hurry to have Mandrake 9.2, just choose a mirror close to you, open a shell window and type

wget -r -l=100 ftp://...

The download time is just the same for the three iso images.

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: October 31, 2003, 09:10:05 PM »

To create CD images, you just have to use the mkcd tool which is located in the root directory of raw tree of MDK 9.2.

If you saved downloaded files under Windows, in a FAT partition, you should be able to create your iso images booting from a Linux Live CD (like Knoppix) always running mkcd. Then you can burn CD from Windows.

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News / Mandrake 9.2 available for download!

« on: October 31, 2003, 05:50:42 PM »

I don't see any difference in releasing Mandrake using the traditional tree or the iso images. Using tools like wget it's pretty easy for everyone to obtain the whole tree structure and then create CDs.

I don't think not releasing iso images together with the release tree will bring Mandrake more subscriptions to Mandrake Club or will make more people buy packages. Who want to support Mandrake just do it, images or not.

Moreover, if people don't buy packages and don't subscribe, reasons are elsewhere:

- Lacking support (see some post above).

- Availability of other zero cost Linux distros which have comparable features to Mandrake.

- A good part of the software reserved to clubers, is freely downloadable from the Internet.

I agree with you Will Smith, free software is freedom, but also accessibility.
Where is the freedom if you have to pay to have access to software?
Having source codes is just for very expert users. For common users, free software just means without cost.

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