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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: February 17, 2009, 06:14:40 AM »
[quote name=\'death_angel07\' post=\'457330\' date=\'Feb 6 2009, 12:57 AM\']hey buddie thats a main mines a lvl 4 and i dont really care about it ill just bot another 1 or just yeah not play rs at all like the rest of u no lifers[/quote]


Hey all its been a while I've been very busy. But it looks like he hasn't send the money so I've been forced to show reveal hes address:

George pavlou
4 kingswell road
kingsthorpe
northampton
NN2 6QB

Mobile according to him is: 07541647443

School website is: http://www.campion.northants.sch.uk <-- so hey even if hes address is wrong which it isnt u can catch him here.

He's 14 years old and heres a pic of him:

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: February 05, 2009, 09:36:42 AM »
[quote name=\'Sonic.\' post=\'457288\' date=\'Feb 4 2009, 10:54 PM\']I guess it will arrive tommorow and so you know if you try anything funny when i do recorded mail my uncle will come[/quote]

kk ermm is it possible in getting the recorded post number so I can track it?

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: February 04, 2009, 10:52:17 AM »
[quote name=\'death_angel07\' post=\'457226\' date=\'Feb 3 2009, 01:51 AM\']lmfao that lvl 4 is hella bomb like u dont even know 71 fish yeah its bomb[/quote]

Hey all... ok Ive sent Sonic my final letter which has the address to pay the money to and even with the letter preposted. The money will be going to a third person who will verify that he has paid it. If this all goes well I hope that death angel07's issue is also solved. If thats not solved hopefully I'll be able to help you resolve it.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 27, 2009, 04:23:35 PM »
[quote name=\'Kaosune\' post=\'456800\' date=\'Jan 26 2009, 01:09 PM\']scammer exposed![/quote]

If anybody wants information regarding sonics personal information including school he goes to, address or anything else including his girlfriend! Which I all have add me on msn so I can give it to you. I've been scammed by sonic or so he thinks and the funny thing is hes going to get a nasty supprise at hes school very soon if he doesnt pay up. MSN: [email protected]

When you add me please email me as well to say why you added me lol - coz I use this email for other things.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 23, 2009, 07:54:40 AM »
[quote name=\'Mikester\' post=\'456585\' date=\'Jan 23 2009, 01:53 AM\']Ok I already sold oak to someone else but we could still make a deal, will you be on msn?[/quote]

I've spoken to Sonic we agreed that he must start the work before the 25th. The day the training must be completed for the next installment is still a unknown factor. But mikester try to email him because its quiet difficult in trying to get hold of him for some reason.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 19, 2009, 12:02:07 PM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'456338\' date=\'Jan 18 2009, 10:27 PM\']I'm not backing him up, I'm protecting you from doing something you may regret... Geez.[/quote]

I'd guess I was more paranoid then anything... or maybe I wasn't but I guess our voices shared the same message that things would get done. And I hope this is the real thing but sonic said he had internet issues the last past days so he wasnt able to contact me or anyone else. So hopefully he will be able to service my account. I'd like to give a special thanks to Pyro Raccoon and Eloyman and to all those viewed the topic!

Heres the keystone message today where he said hes gonna do it... Note: I was really P***ed off at this time thinking he was gonna say "scammed" or something.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 18, 2009, 08:14:28 AM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'456306\' date=\'Jan 18 2009, 09:43 AM\']You haven't fraud him but you have committed a fraud by breaking Jagex' contract. As for the proof,



If it is close within their ability, jagex can take legal action because anything to do with runescape whether it be your account, money or items, it belongs to jagex. If they find it possible, they can prosecute you for selling their property without any authorization. This goes the same for training of accounts.[/quote]

Im paying him to play and hes deciding to play and train my account - so yes it remains the property of jagex but then everything on this forum as in activity is illegal so I dont see why your trying to back him up.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 17, 2009, 06:28:24 PM »
Actually your wrong, because there are many people over the years who have breached their contract by sharing there account and have been banned. That is an entirely different scenario but at the end scenario they have been banned and NOT prosecuted. But theft for a service is a case that can be solved by the court. Hopefully it doesnt need to go to that, but before you do come up with scenario at least have some solid written proof from jagex that says that you will be prosecuted if you breach the 11 rules etc.

But the weird thing of it all was that I was going to give him £40 additonal pounds for training my account but hes decided to scam or not respond on £20 which is very weird from even him. I hope it all goes well but if it doesnt those who have been scammed will get hes FULL UK ADDRESS so they can speak or write to him personally like I will. Going to write to him and then deal with it myself if nothing happens.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 17, 2009, 05:11:04 PM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'456281\' date=\'Jan 17 2009, 09:13 PM\']Now, you see, here is a major flaw in your plan:

If you take legal action, you recognize yourself amongst the court. You will have to tell the WHOLE truth about anything they ask you. The court could very well then summon Jagex to court to verify. When you register on runescape, you accept the terms and conditions, which is a contract... You are bound to Jagex' rule by CONTRACT. This will be highly likely seeing as the both of you are in the U.K. and so is Jagex. The only outcome you'll get from taking legal action against him, is the following:

Sonic will be:

Prosecuted for theft (both from you and jagex)
Prosecuted for fraud
Sued for breaking a contract
Prosecuted for misadvertisement

You will be:

Prosecuted for theft (from jagex)
Prosecuted for fraud
Sued for breaking a contract

This will go on your permanent criminal record as well.

but don't worry.... Sonic is a trustworthy guy.[/quote]


We'll see how it goes... but thats as a last resukt 0-- but no i havent fraud him.

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For Sale / Wanted / Training4u
« on: January 17, 2009, 02:55:05 PM »
Hey, Mikester heres a link to the topic regarding the training which I've listed the legislation he is breaking if he doesnt pay up or finish the service:

Legisation and Topic

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 17, 2009, 02:52:49 PM »
This is the legislation that he is going against, well thats only a last resort if he doesnt pay ofcourse. But heres the legislation:

        Theft (Amendment) Act 1996

    1996 CHAPTER 62

    ARRANGEMENT OF SECTIONS

    An Act to  amend the Theft Act 1968 and the Theft Act 1978; and for connected purposes.

    [18th  December 1996]

    Be it enacted by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:"

    1 Obtaining a money transfer by deception

    (1) After  section 15 of the [1968 c. 60.] Theft Act 1968 insert"

    “15A Obtaining a money transfer by deception

    (1) A  person is guilty of an offence if by any deception he dishonestly obtains a  money transfer for himself or another.

    (2) A  money transfer occurs when"

    (a) a  debit is made to one account,

    (b ) a  credit is made to another, and

    © the  credit results from the debit or the debit results from the credit.

    (3) References  to a credit and to a debit are to a credit of an amount of money and to a debit  of an amount of money.

    (4) It is immaterial (in particular)"

    (a) whether the amount credited is the same as the amount debited;  

    (b ) whether the money transfer is effected on presentment of a cheque  or by another method;

    © whether any delay occurs in the process by which the money transfer  is effected;

    (d) whether any intermediate credits or debits are made in the course  of the money transfer;

    (e) whether either of the accounts is overdrawn before or after the  money transfer is effected.

    (5) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.  

     

The one I have underlined is the exact legislation he is going against, and he already owes another member of The Tech Guide Forum.

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Trader Feedback / The IP check request thread
« on: January 17, 2009, 11:53:01 AM »
Request Sonics IP check.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 17, 2009, 11:26:34 AM »
I'm hoping he doesnt but I've got hes full address so lets just say I'll be getting my money back one way or another if he doesnt pay me... but im hoping we dont need to take it to the pit of fire and this can all be resolved.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 17, 2009, 11:22:30 AM »
[quote name=\'shell-shocker\' post=\'456244\' date=\'Jan 17 2009, 03:52 PM\']Well I live in Birmingham and he lives in northampton. But I orignally wanted training from you eloyman. If your possible in getting me the refund I'll be happily in getting training from you. But the only problem is I cant use paypal at the moment. Hopefully once I've gotten the refund I'll be able to ... unless he trains the account. The distance between my house and hes house is: 61.3 miles �" about 1 hour 11 mins. Im just hoping for the best... but I joined this forum hoping that there will be less scams and users with more posts will be more kosher.[/quote]

Heres an example of some of the stress i get and what happens to me while trying to contact sonic... it would be better speaking to a wall because at least I would not it was there still.


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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 17, 2009, 10:52:56 AM »
[quote name=\'eloyman\' post=\'456239\' date=\'Jan 17 2009, 03:44 PM\']Does he live within distance of you[/quote]

Well I live in Birmingham and he lives in northampton. But I orignally wanted training from you eloyman. If your possible in getting me the refund I'll be happily in getting training from you. But the only problem is I cant use paypal at the moment. Hopefully once I've gotten the refund I'll be able to ... unless he trains the account. The distance between my house and hes house is: 61.3 miles – about 1 hour 11 mins. Im just hoping for the best... but I joined this forum hoping that there will be less scams and users with more posts will be more kosher.

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Trader Feedback / Training Service with Sonic?!?
« on: January 17, 2009, 10:40:32 AM »
Hi all before you all go through the same thing I'm going through let me explain whats happened. Sonic agreed with me £60 to train my Runescape account mining to 99 and wood cutting to 85. Ok, so we decided to do it recorded delivery so I could see where sonic's address is encase I need to take legal action (which I may do). So I posted the money on the 15th January 2009. The money arrived a day later with sonics confirmation that its arrived.


But it took me from morning all the way until the 10pm to find out if hes received it or not. It should be hes own responsibility to tell me, but what happened after that is a complete mystery for me. He said he'll talk to me in 30 minutes which would make it 11:15pm which I waited and he didnt come back on. Infact I was on until 00:00. So today he came on MSN but no response. So I thought fair enough he maybe busy or he may have forgotten. So I've emailed him details about my runescape account and rules he must follow while training like store all raw materials within the bank dont sell anything etc. But he still hasnt logged in, what I'm thinking about doing is sending him a letter or two if he doesnt respond or do anything by sunday. Hopefully I'll get a refund if he doesnt train my account by sunday because I've done my part now waiting for him to do hes part. In the extreme case he doesnt pay I'll one go to hes house or two I'll take legal action as this is pure theft if he doesnt do hes part. Any ideas whats going on or anything or any contact phone number I can call him on?

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For Sale / Wanted / Training4u
« on: January 17, 2009, 10:15:15 AM »
Well today I'm abit worried Sonic hasnt started training my account and im worried in thinking I've been scammed. Hes received the money but hasnt started and everytime I speak to him now (since I've sent the money) he doesnt respond. The only time he responded was the time within the msn picture just once so far. And he hasnt even logged into my account to train it... either hes busy or somethings up - but hes keeping me in the dark. http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' /> Any ideas on what I can do?

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For Sale / Wanted / Training4u
« on: January 16, 2009, 05:49:52 PM »
Update at 22:48 on the 16th January 2008: Sonic has received the money, so thats a CONFIRMATION. Heres the image to prove it This now means the training can take place. If theres any further update I'll keep everyone posted. Hope to talk to you all soon.

~Ben.

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For Sale / Wanted / Training4u
« on: January 16, 2009, 03:09:14 PM »
Update: I beleive its arrived... not 100% sure - but tommorow I will contact the Post Office to find out.

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For Sale / Wanted / Training4u
« on: January 16, 2009, 02:58:46 PM »
UPDATE: I've sent the money and its arrived today.. but Sonics not responding to he's MSN and I've emailed him to see whats going on but no response. So I'm abit worried - but I'll keep everyone updated. If need be I will take legal action if he tries to scam as I've got hes address. But hopefully we dont need to jump into the thorns and this can be clean sailing for both me and him.

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