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Marmaduke

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« on: July 15, 2001, 01:36:28 PM »
OK, Im having some different problems with Easy CD creator 5 than I have seen posted elsewhere. Im running windows 2000, and I dont have the BSOD or slow startup, but the program itself runs slow! i.e. when I click the file menu, it wont pop up for 4-5 seconds, or anything to do with that window, i.e. if I drap and drop the window, it wont move to the new location for 4-5 seconds.
I have installed both the patches on Roxios web site, but still hasnt helped. I did a complete un-install, and reinstalled Easy CD 4, but now it wont find my CDR (Plextor 12x)
Anyone have any ideas?


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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2001, 02:55:58 PM »
Update EZCD Cremator 4 to the latest version with the patches on www.roxio.com
It should now see your writer.

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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2001, 11:08:11 AM »
Are you perhaps running a P4/Intel 850?  I\'ve have many of the same GUI problems that you have described, especially with the animated file menus in Office 2000 Pro and with scrolling long webpages.  Sorry rhis doesn\'t help much, but I\'m sure it\'s nice to know that you\'re not alone with your symptoms.

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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2002, 06:08:04 PM »
DO YOU HAVE IE 6?
I NOTICED THAT AFTER I INSTALLED IE6 MY PROGRAMS THAT NEED THE HTM SUPPORT DO RUN SLOWER, I WENT BACK TO IE5 AND THEY RUN FASTER

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2002, 11:58:44 PM »
Big_Z is right...defiantely ezcd CREMATOR.

anon is right too. Many people have had serious issue\'s with performance in ie6...it basically not such a great browser. Every since ie4 ms has seemed to not really change much beside\'s performance...and create compatibility problem\'s with the standards presented by W3C.

ez cd cremator....is hands down the worst thing to use in the world to burn cd\'s. If you have to use it...that\'s a different story. Adaptec really gave up on making it a great app before they sold it...and roxio has done nothing to improve it. It still, if im not mistaken...install\'s to a directory named Adaptec. This puzzle\'s me because if adaptec sold it to roxio why doesnt roxio change this?? probably because they havent changed much of anything since they bought it.

ezcd creator has sooo many problems reported. 1 was it would/never report a correct ISRC at one point in time. 2 was it couldnt read .CDA/.WAV file\'s correctly and somehow managed to make the song\'s sound less detailed. 3  was it would just give up if there was any sort of protection on the disc. This is not a problem for most people but some of use that need to legitatemly (cant spell) back up disc\'s it is. 4. was that it, and im pretty sure it still doesnt, read the EFM encoding right...im sure it still doesnt do this. 5. was it had serious issue\'s with RAW read and write. Pretty much it will never do a 1to1 copy ever.

Some of these issue\'s im sure has been worked out...but then again who can tell. I have only used ezcd creator at school...because it is all they got/allow. I have not used the application anywhere else for almost 5 years now. I can tell you this, adaptec was never *wanted even in the early 90\'s...well atleat 93\'. A high-school friend of mine, had a father who had a cdr and ldr in his basement. His dad was what he said a \"Print Author\"...i have never been sure what that means. However, at that time he copied some cd\'s...not many, and his father alway\'s biatched about him doing it because if it...uhhh...fuc\'t up more or less...he would have to call the company that sold it to him and have them come and fix the \"adaptec files\" in it everytime. I have no clue what those file\'s where and why he needed to call anybody...but he claimed to have to do this. (which btw i had no clue how cool a cdr was at that time :-)..not until we learned you could copy 3DO/Saturn games with it :-)

I have had a cdr since 1998...the most reliable software you can get is cdrwin. The most versatile (and some say powerfull) is DiscJuggler. Next to that for 1:1 copies i hear CloneCD takes the cake. I have not used that program for about 3 year\'s but even at that time it was great.

A average call would be Nero. I like it, i think it has a pretty good interface. However it seem\'s to me over the year\'s that it has got a \"down the middle\" rating. So take that for what you will. I know it has more options than the others...however why i dont use it today is because some of the switch\'s don\'t work no more...and there seem\'s to be NO documentation on the switch\'s for 5+. I emailed Ahead and they got back to me with a email that was sooo confusing i had no clue if they were even talking about their Nero program or a remote control.

If you know all this already ignore it all :-)...i \"Just Say NO!\" to EZCE Cremator.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2002, 10:02:03 PM »
Just to correct your rant on a few points, ECDC was never SOLD to anyone.  Adaptec split itself into hardware and software companies.  Hardware stayed Adaptec, Software had to be called something else (since they weren\'t gonna be a subsidiary, or somesuch), so somebody came up with Roxio.  If you had investigated the situation at all you would have found this out.

It still says Adaptec on the install directory because the product was under development when the name change happened, and \"Roxio\" did exactly what Adaptec was going to do with the product, since the exact same engineers were still writing it.

The fact that it had assloads of bugs (much better now that 5.3 is out, but still not perfect) on release is because Roxio spent assloads of money on marketing and making the UI look pretty, and tried to save on the backend by hiring junior engineers and QA people.  This is not a \"theory\" of mine, but a fact relayed to me by a dozen people at the company (most still employed there) whom I know socially (names withheld).

To the original posters, and all others with similar issues, make sure you get the latest patch for ECDC 5.  Anything below 5.02b sucked in Win2K (could crash it w/BSOD on uninstall), anything before 5.10 won\'t run on WinXP, and anything below 5.3.2 could screw up in WinXP SP1.  Roxio stopped hiring junior people a while back, so they seem to be digging out of the crap code in ECDC 5, but they are still really marketing/image driven...

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2002, 01:49:00 PM »
Then my rant\'s on all but Roxio being sold...everything but that...are correct??


The software sux in my opinion.

You should NOT have to put up with a companies lack of responsibility and quality for their own CUSTOMERS just because........well just because.


If it come\'s with your burner that is one thing...just dont buy it yourself. Buy something better and cheaper. Believe me that is not hard to do either.

How long has adaptec been in the cdrom business anyway??? How many problem\'s does EZ have???

Again...in my opinion. Adaptec never gave a zhit about the private consumer\'s. They were always targeting hardware vendors/makers. Also that seemed smart to me.


BTW...that last post above...anony post about my \"rants\". That is probably the best and honest post i have seen about Adaptec...maybe EVER...actually yes EVER.

Im totally, and TRUELY happy that they are getting their zhit together. For me, right now, their software is still zhit. However, i like the Adaptec company. I don\'t think cdrom\'s would of been such a success without that company. Im taking that the \"Anonymous\" poster know\'s what he is talking about, and also believing him.

It would honestly suprise me, if EZCD cremator became the highest quality application for cdrom writing. In all reality i think they just left the ball on the ground for too long to really think to get back in the game and be tip top and head of the class (atleast in quality...god/god\'s know they sell).

Nice post however. The post above this one is the first post i have seen where someone that actually know\'s people from the company...and actually state\'s their product is not soo good to date.

Im eager to see EZ 6 now.



btw...i only use adaptec because at my school it\'s all they seem to know. I can say this, which ALOT of people would disagree (some dont), but the GUI just plain sux. I mean, if this is the version im thinking of, it has when it open\'s up crossbared window??? Like at the bottome right you \"drop\" your files??? Has a big read nasty button for recording?? The GUI is probably good for the general user\'s...however it is a waste of space if you have burned like 10 cd\'s or so. The entier top portion of the crossbar...both left and right window\'s could be totally left out.

Nero...i have a problem with this interface aswell.  However ive typed too much as it is.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2002, 10:56:04 PM »
Let\'s see...  the possible options are that I work(ed) for Roxio, I work(ed) for Adaptec (or maybe even both, if I left when Roxio split), I\'m married to or dating someone who works or worked for one or both of these companies, I\'m friends with or roommates with someone from one or both companies, I work for or know well someone who works for a competitor,  I am connected to a partner company, or I just watch the industry like a hawk.

... Or maybe all of the above.  Or none.

At any rate, yes I do know the inside of that company (at least figuratively) pretty well.  Actually, customer service wasn\'t bad at all, once you got past the long hold times that they suffered from from time to time.  Then again, every CS or TS place that I\'ve ever dealt with has had long hold times.  Engineering and QA were problematic on the whole until they cleaned house twice in a year.  I have no indication that ECDC 6 will be better tested than ECDC 5 was, but I know that at least the gross skill level has risen in the 2 years since Adaptec started work on ECDC 5.

In case you were curious, ECDC 6 has a very pretty interface, but whether it will be the performance hog that ECDC 5\'s interface was remains to be seen.  Also, with all the bitmaps in the GUI I\'m wondering how well this thing will work with text-to-voice screen readers (for the blind) or localize to different languages.  ECDC 5 reportedly sucked for the blind folks, but I\'m basing that on an accessability report that a non-profit org put out on the industry which mentioned Roxio, not my own usage.  I\'ll reserve judgement on perf., loc., and acc. as the copy that was smuggled to me was hardly complete.

One last note, your comment on audio was correct, but most (if not quite all) of the WAV issues were solved in 5.1, and 5.3 cleaned up all the rest that I knew about.  The RAW-mode writes were never part of the spec, though, so you can\'t really fault them for not doing something they never claimed to do.  The copier was always a sector-correct copy mechanism (data was copied), not a bit-correct copy or a pit/land-correct copy (all flaws, especially intentional copy-protection ones, are copied).

If I want bit-correct RAW mode I use either CloneCD or Nero, but more often the former.  For general work I\'ll use ECDC (now that they modernized the engine behind it, the GUI suits me fine) or WinOnCD which is made by Roxio\'s European group and not marketed in the states, but which kicks serious ass.  WinOnCD\'s interface is in the neighborhood of Nero\'s, clunky by usable, but it does everything that I could want and gives me as many or few options as I want to deal with for a given burn.  My copy of WinOnCD 6 arrives soon! (tee hee)

At any rate, Roxio didn\'t put OEMs above customers, it put style over substance and cheap labor over quality engineering and testing.  They make a boatload of income from OEM bundling, true, but if you check their SEC filings you see it is less than half of the income.  Much of the rest comes from upgrade sales of people moviong from the OEM to the full version.  As such, they need ther customers to like them, and they know this.  In fact, they obsessed over the UI to the point that they sometimes ignored the actual code behind it, all to try and make the system easy for new users.

If they had paid less attention to the interface and more to integrating their tools (1 audio app, not 2.5) and building their drivers and installers/uninstallers to spec (Microsoft quietly took them to task more than a few times.  Oops.  Do I work for Microsoft, perhaps?) they would be in a better place with the enthusiasts instead of just hanging on to their core userbase, Ma and Pa Kent.

The upside?  It looks like ECDC 6 will have a copier (no idea if this one does RAW or not), a data CD/DVD app, a SINGLE (!) audio app (record, edit, rip, burn, fold, spindle, mutilate, whatever), and a basic VCD/DVD video app.  This is a nice change over 5.  There may be other things to come, but when I saw it those were the four in-place modules.  I assume it will get photo-editing of some sort and packet writing is pretty much a given.  Besides that, we wait and see...