Win2K and Nero hassles..

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

I recently upgraded from Win98 to Win2K (aaah...stability. Niiice..), and mostly, it all works fine. However, a few little things are acting very, very annoying.

For the record: it\'s a Dell PIII 450, right before the upgrade a threw in an extra 128 megs of SDRAM (total 256 now) and a 40 gig HD (Maxtor, 4 partitions, set to slave, IIRC, on the same IDE channel as the other HD.) Have a 12x AOpen 1232A CDRW and an OEM LG CD-ROM drive on IDE channel 2.

Problem is this: used to be, prior to hardware and software upgrade, that I could burn VCDs using nero, no problems, no buffer underrun preventions. From time to time one or two, if I was running a lot of other stuff or was copying disc to disc \'on the fly\'.

Problem since the upgrade: even when burning from harddisk, I get at least 5, sometimes up to 15, buffer underrun preventions. Media doesn\'t seem to matter, older and newer versions of Nero do the same thing, which HD I burn from doesn\'t seem to matter.

Added to this, the whole system goes a little jerky/juttery when I\'m burning; multitasking capability dimishes significantly.

Anyone experiece similar problems? Ideas? Tips? Hints? Anything?

Beyond that, I\'m loving Win2K (And hating Turtle Beach for not having proper Win2000 drivers for the Monetgo. It still works, but not very reliably..)

[rdc]

Have you upgraded to the latest version of nero burning rom
5564 . Is your cdrw burning proof . Augment your buffer
File ,preferences,buffer . Uses part of your ram and 128 is a bit at the low side . SDRAM is cheap nowadays .
W2K needs more RAM than win 98  .
I set my buffer in nero to 80mb(maximum) , but then I have  750 mb and a scsi writer . You may use up to  40 % of your ram  makes it  a 50mb buffer .

[Anonymous]

Yes, latest version of Nero up and running. I\'ll try augmenting the buffer size, see if that helps, though. I\'ve got a total of 256 megs of ram, I recently bought an extra 128. System resources meter never seems to be using all of it..

I\'ve got an AOpen drive, has JustLink (so buffer underruns aren\'t really \'coaster creating\' problems..), I\'ll crank up the buffer, burn a disc or two, see if that helps.

[rdc]

If you have 256mb you may set your buffer to maximum (80mb)
good luck

[Anonymous]

Tried it, still no joy.

A \'mere\' 6 buffer underruns this time around. What\'s confusing and annoying me is that I never had this problem with Win98 (first edition) and half the RAM. Most frustrating...

Seems to work a little better with the larger Buffer size, so...

[rdc]

There is not much left that you could do :
Disconnect the slave cdrom  , or
See if there is no firmware update for the cdrw on the aopen site http://www.aopen.com/tech/download/Optical/crw/crw1232a.htm  
Set the cache drive to the drive with the most space left ,or
See if your connections are 100% (I screwed up 10cdr because of a cable that was not perfectly attached any more) .
Did you install service pack 2 for w2k.
The best way with cdwriters  is a scsi card and a scsi cdwriter , but this isn\'t much help now , but in either case
Good luck again

[Anonymous]

I guess I\'ll pop off the cover and giggle the cables...

I think the CD-ROM drive is set to master, the CD-RW is slave (I think...been a while since I installed the thing..) Updated the firmware, Win2K service pack 2 is installed and working, etc etc...

I just find it odd that this worked before, but seems to, well, not, right now. Guess I\'ll go bother the Nero tech support guys, see if they\'ve heard of the problem...

[Anonymous]

I had the same problem with underburn although i have underburn prevention enabled.  I  used to have 1 cable connected to 2 drives (cdrom and cdrw) from the same IDE channel.  I fixed it by using two different cables for two drives coming from two different IDE channels.
It worked for me.

[meV]

HI!

I\'m using Nero 5.5 on Windows 2000 Server with 256MB PC100, I have IOMEGA ZIPCD 3840INT -E (burn-proof). I didn\'t need to configure anything else after installation, And I never had any BufferUnderrun error --- It always record at 12x -which is the maxspeed.

*****Although you could run other task when Recording, It is advisable to disable Realtime Virus Scan -- this is because it intercept all I/O Read/Write request.

My IDE configuration is a little wierd --- I use Cable Select

PRIMARY     *****Master-CDROM
                    Slave - Fujitsu 6.1GB

SECONDARY       ***** Master-Iomega ZIPCD 3840INT
                          Slave -Seagate 19GB

The only philosophy I used here is.

1. I didn\'t want to place two HD on the same IDE channel
-Makes HD data access faster if accessing datas simultaneous from both HD
-*****Also by placing CD&CD-RW on the different IDE Channel data transfer is between two IDE channel (faster for same reason )

2. *****CD-RW must be a master drive.
3. CDROM  is master because it never wanted to be slave on Master/Slave Jumper setting (it doesnt hurt to *****make CDROM slave on the Channel other than that containing CD Writer)

Best:
*****Some people say that you get perfomance by adding extra IDE card

meV

[rdc]

You allways can ask the nero techs , but this is not a 100%guarantee to solve the problem . I would personnally make the cdrw the master (I thought it was) and the cdrom the slave , and if this doesn\'t work disconnect the cdrom and try to run the cdrw without any slave cdrom  , and give it another  try first .
You may say ,it worked fine in win 98 , but here you speak of two different systems , with different capacities and compatibilities .
I had an IDE HP cdrw  before and it was set to master too .
I didn\'t have any major problem , but then a computer is composed out of a lot of components that can play a role in good or bad functioning

[carlstephenson]

Have you tried running aspichk.exe from Adaptec?
Maybe you have the same problem I had - no ASPI layer.
Installing ASPI and ASPI32 solved my problems.

[rdc]

wnaspi32.dll is part of nero and is in the same nero folder as the burning program is .Winxp pro ,winxp ,and w2k does\'t have aspi layers installed they do have winaspi32.dll .Some programs need wnaspi32.dll from there own brand or doesn\'t work with the w2k or win xp one., then you simply put another one  in the same folder as the program or there is one included , not all the wnaspi32.dll files are from adaptec ,nero has his own , there\'s the one in winxp and win2k (system32)from acard technologies an there is also one from jukka pokohainen .
My whole system is scsi (asc29160), and there is no aspi layer installed because it\'s not supported by the OS ,only wnaspi32.dll , and  my system doesn\'t need aspi32.sys .There is a reg plug in for win nt to enable an aspilayer , but I won\'t recommand it .

[The_Flames]

There is also a doggy hacked aspi layer\'s , one is aspi4all and the other was aspi_me, but adaptec asked the peopel who created them to remove them as it broke copyright, you could do a google search for them, they generally work well!

[rdc]

Thx flames , I knew of  a registry plug in for the adaptec aspi layer for winnt , but I never heard of hacked aspi layers , but I\'m not surprised they exist .Nevertheless I didn\'t need any for the moment , neither in w2k nor in winxp pro .
I normally use copernic  2001 for searching , very good too .

[rdc]

Take it from me , the aspi32 layer is incompatible with winxp, just as adaptec says.
I tried it and my (ide)dvd didn\'t play anymore so I renamed aspi32.sys to aspi32.syx and the dvd worked again .
I restored winxp to 1 day before the installation of aspi32.sys to get rid of the registry entries aspi 32 made and the added files so no harm done .