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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2008, 07:22:24 PM »
i added it to the hosts the ad thing doesn't come up but it made the site load a lot slower even worse than before...
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2008, 07:26:30 PM »
Remove that entry from the hosts file then

Afterwards, can you try running firefox in safe mode enviroment

In a Run command window copy>paste the following

firefox -safe-mode

Don't click OK or Go yet
Instead close Firefox and click OK

Try cnn.com, any difference?
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2008, 07:28:35 PM »
no i already tryed that and got rid of every add on. Even uninstalled and reinstalled. And also tried firefox 3 beta.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2008, 09:20:07 PM »
Are you on Cable or Dsl?

Can you post the MTU settings, may be of some help

I'm not using Vista, but try the following
Run a command prompt window as admin

Type in
netsh interfaces ipv4 show subinterfaces
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2008, 03:00:54 PM »
I am on DSL

Here is what i think you asked for. When i put what you wanted in cmd prompt nothing came up so i took off the s in interfaces.


EDIT: A tech specialist just suggested i try it in safe mode. I did and it still doesn't work.


EDIT2: Now i do remember something. I download tweakvista. http://www.tweakvista.com/tweakvistautility/download.aspx.

Awhile back i downloaded it and used
Internet Optimization - TweakVista can improve your Internet surfing performance by changing the underlying Internet settings on Windows Vista to fit the capabilities of your PC. http://www.stardock.com/products/tweakvista/

I can no longer use the free version to attempt to fix what i did. If that is what is causing the problem. I have a feeling it isn't but i know that messed with my internet settings so it could be. It says i already used the free trial. And the only way to fix it is to restore my computer. Well my restore points go back that far.
Do you think something from that might of caused the problem? Oh that is right you don't have vista so you wont be able to download and see what settings that i could have changed.
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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2008, 10:29:48 PM »
Geesh, I hate when I hear used tweaking programs when there unsure what they are changing
It get's diffucult
If at all possible, save any files you to disk or USB

Then restore to a point before you had problems, see if it helps
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2008, 02:54:55 PM »
True...
But anyways i am going to do what i did on this computer on my other vista machine to see if i can recreate the problem.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2008, 03:10:49 PM »
Good news... I have successfully recreated the problem on my other computer and successfully fixed the problem at the same time. Tweak vista is definitely what i had cause it. I am going to find a way to be able to use the trial again.
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2008, 03:14:21 PM »
Sorry, didn't mean to imply you didn't know what you were doing
Just meant that you may have changed a setting by mistake and a reversal may be needed

Was there an MTU setting in the program?
Just curious

EDIT>>Just seen this

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Good news... I have successfully recreated the problem on my other computer and successfully fixed the problem at the same time. Tweak vista is definitely what i had cause it. I am going to find a way to be able to use the trial again.
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2008, 03:31:54 PM »
I don't think it was just a trial version and i only had a few choices of what i could do. I will upload a screen shot soon.
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2008, 05:08:15 PM »
According to TweakVista you should of created a restore point when you installed
Unless you unselected the option

Here's a screen shot of the Internet options
http://www.tweakvista.com/tweakvistautilit...ta_Internet.png

Take note of the following
Enhanced and Aggressive settings may cause problems with some sites.....
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2008, 05:20:27 PM »
yeah i saw that on my other computer...
sadly my restore points only go back to February 14 and i did this way back in like december...
I guess i will just have to live with it until i can find a cracks opps i mean good version of tweak vista since i can't use it anymore because of the trial.
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2008, 05:26:33 PM »
Since you have 2 Vista computers, and one works properly
I wonder what would happen if you checked your RWIN and MTU settings at Speedguide
Maybe we can see what is different in both computer comparisons

http://www.speedguide.net/sg_tools.php

At the link click on SG TCP/IP Analyzer

The results should show after a few seconds
Edit>>The MTU settings you posted earlier >>1496
Which should be correct for dsl
It may be an Rwin setting that TweakVista changed
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2008, 05:34:11 PM »
let me install logmein so i can run the other computer from this one so i don't have to run up and down stairs... will take one min

K it is installed and running

Do you want me to run that on both computers?
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2008, 05:39:12 PM »
Here are results of pc where cnn loads.
SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer

TCP properties for IP = <Edited guestolo>
Browser/OS = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12
Notes: Read the Analyzer FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
TCP options string = 020405b40103030201010402
MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.
MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which equals MSS.
Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 17520
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits (scale factor of 4)
Unscaled TCP Receive Window = 4380

In Windows Vista, unless you have disabled "TCP/IP Auto-Tuning", readings in the Analyzer will only show the Current TCP Window, and the TCP Optimizer will have no effect.
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other RWIN values that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
 64240 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product (Note this is not a speed test):

Your TCP Window limits you to: 701 kbps (88 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your TCP Window limits you to: 280 kbps (35 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 112 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000 (0)


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here is where cnn does not load

TCP options string = 020405b001010402
MTU = 1496
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.
MSS = 1456
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1456, which equals MSS.
Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 65520
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled TCP Receive Window = 65520

In Windows Vista, unless you have disabled "TCP/IP Auto-Tuning", readings in the Analyzer will only show the Current TCP Window, and the TCP Optimizer will have no effect.
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other RWIN values that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
512512 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256256 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128128 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
 64064 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product (Note this is not a speed test):

Your TCP Window limits you to: 2621 kbps (328 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your TCP Window limits you to: 1048 kbps (131 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 112 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000 (0)
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2008, 05:42:37 PM »
Is this the computer that can access all of cnn.com?

I suggest that you actually go to that computer and visit Speedguide again and see if you get the same results
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MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.
MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which equals MSS.
Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 17520
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits (scale factor of 4)
Unscaled TCP Receive Window = 4380
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« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2008, 05:44:30 PM »
ok but yeah that was the comp i was using to access cnn.... brb
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« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2008, 05:47:04 PM »
Here it is with log me in not running and directly from the computer
TCP options string = 020405b40103030201010402
MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.
MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which equals MSS.
Default TCP Receive Window (RWIN) = 17520
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits (scale factor of 4)
Unscaled TCP Receive Window = 4380

In Windows Vista, unless you have disabled "TCP/IP Auto-Tuning", readings in the Analyzer will only show the Current TCP Window, and the TCP Optimizer will have no effect.
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other RWIN values that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
 64240 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product (Note this is not a speed test):

Your TCP Window limits you to: 701 kbps (88 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your TCP Window limits you to: 280 kbps (35 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 111 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000 (0)
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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2008, 05:50:45 PM »
Ok, at least we know the results are the same

Let's check and see if autotuning is enabled on both computers
I don't have Vista, so I'll leave the results to you

You can post them, it may be of some help, I'm not sure what Tweakvista changed
Check and see if autotuning is enabled on both

netsh interface tcp show global
As taken from this link

http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php?cat...=89&qid=247
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2008, 05:52:47 PM »
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Ok, at least we know the results are the same
What do you mean?


they were different. The one computer has and mtu of 1500 and the other 1496.
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