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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2001, 08:46:11 PM »
Tried it out last night, AWESOME program, but doubt you can put it up, says for Microsofts internal use ONLY.

But it really works, turned 1.20GB files from Windows 2000 Pro/Server/Advanced Server into a multi OS ISO of less than 500MB.

A simple command line program, less than 70kb, yes 70 kb

Thanks again to David Ying for bringing this program to my attention.

It even makes a bootable ISO. basicly like the original Microsoft CD\'s, well not basicly, it is an original.

Did the Windows 2000 PRO SP2, bootable in one simple commandline, no need for CDRWin anymore.

I can put it on my webpage later on, with instructions on how to use it if anyone is interested.

Oz

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2001, 10:03:10 PM »
If I could program, I\'d make a GUI front-end for this proggie.  Looks to be very powerful.

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2001, 10:15:52 PM »
BTW, I think that as long as you use it to compile MS CD\'s, i.e. a slipstreamed win2k cd, multi windows cd, etc. that it\'d be ok.  I have it ready for download at www.thetechguide.com/downloads/cdimage.exe.  If I\'m wrong and MS wants it taken down, I\'d have no problem with that.

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2001, 01:11:47 AM »
A very, very alpha of the front-end is done.  Special thanks go out to Dexter, he was a tremendous help.  Also, do note that this is my first attempt at coding a Windows program.  Please go easy .

Just download the zip file, and extract the two files into their own directory.  As long as you have the VB6 runtime installed (most of you already do), that\'s all you need.  Run CDImage.exe, and that\'s it.

www.thetechguide.com/misc/cdimage_alpha1.zip

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2001, 01:09:07 PM »
dos is fine by me http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2001, 02:22:40 PM »
Me too, I\'m used to working in linux so the command line doesn\'t scare me much.

But, a gui is nice.

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2001, 04:08:17 PM »
BTW, since I posted this, I made one change to the program.  It wouldn\'t run correctly if you extracted it to a directory with a space somewhere (i.e. c:cdimage was ok, but not c:misc programscdimage).  Same link, same ver number, just fixed that one problem.

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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2001, 01:08:21 AM »
If you want I can make a front-end to it... i downloaded the program and that looks like an easy job...

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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2001, 01:16:07 AM »
Thats a doubt... my Windows 2000 Pro version language is Portuguese Brazilian... and i having problems to extract the boot record from it... i extracted the boot record from a Windows 2000 US version and i was wondering is it will work with the BR version, does anyone had any luck with that kind of problem???

PS: why not post the boot records from M$ CDs for easy access?

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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2001, 11:31:58 PM »
I have all the boot data for MS OS\'s CD\'s on my website, ready for download.

Oz

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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2001, 08:18:59 AM »
Hello Folks,

Is-it possible to get CDIMAGE.EXE ?

Thk

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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2001, 09:54:36 AM »
Could you post directory structure and boot sector of the 3in1 windows 2000 cd? How does the boot process work? It shows a menu where you choose what to install?

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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2001, 04:03:56 AM »
im not too sure...but can someone give a run down of how to make this 3 OS bootable cd...and some of the documentation on how and why cdimage.exe is something more than just another cdrecord....thanks..im interested in puttin 2kpro and win98se on one cd

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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2001, 06:45:00 AM »
Hi there,

Hi tried to use the MS program with no succes. Here is the main command line I came to use:

\"cdimage 2.39\" -lW2POEM_FR -h -n -d -bC:W2KW2KBootCDi386setupldr.bin -o c:W2KW2KBootCD c:toto.iso

Because of the lack of documentation, I could not know the relevance of each argument.
Furthermore, I do not know wich .bin to use on the cd... (I tried with both setupdlr.bin and bootfix.bin, as I think bootfont.bin is not really appropriate).
Finally, I first used Nero for burning the image, but he has problem recognizing .iso and open a dialog box I do not know how to fill, then I turned to CDR win, which has no such problem. Sadly, my image still does not work...

BTW, could somebody tell me the advantages of Nero against CDRwin?

Thank you,

aardvark

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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2001, 08:26:38 AM »
Not sure what you are trying to do, but if it was me, I would do it like this:

c:cdimage -lW2POEM_FR -t05/15/2001,12:00:00 -g -h -n -o -bc:boot.bin c:W2KW2KBootCD c:toto.iso

You are using the wrong boot data, you have to use sector 20 from the original CD. If you dont know how to extrack it, you can download it from my page. In the above example, I have called the boot data boot.bin and it\'s in the root of the C drive. Dont include it in the root of the CD.

I got the process worked out now how the 3in1 is done, dublicated it a couple of days ago from scratch, also did a 98SE/2000 Pro bootable CD and a 2000Pro/XP Pro bootable CD.

I will post the way to do it, but it\'s a very time consuming process to explain how to do it, actually doing it when you know how, does not take to long.

What CDIMAGE can do that no other burn program can do, is as mentioned above \"Optimize\" ( -o ) files, as a file will only be recorded once, even if it appears 2-3 times on the CD, instead a \"shortcut\" will be used.

Oz

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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2001, 03:57:46 PM »
I\'d be very interested in that.  Also if you know the default switches MS uses for their cdimage program for different versions of windows, that\'d be great too.  But I think it doesn\'t make a huge difference, as long as long filenames are enabled (or Joliet).

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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2001, 11:02:05 PM »
Please post a text file on how to do the 3OScd please...and maybe the one for 2kpro/xppro...although the 3 in 1 should clear everything up

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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2001, 05:34:48 PM »
I was changed the I386 folder to w2kpro which came out the error message said \"couldn\'t find NTLDR\". After that I read your forum and changed the I386 folder to 4386 and edit the boot section file to \"SETUPLDR.BINBOOTFIX.BIN4386\" which can find a NTLDR but it came out another error message said the \"NTDETECT failed\".

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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2001, 07:43:58 PM »
Yeh i have got both of those another i cant remember but i think it said \"bootload failure\"..anyways..maybe its the cdrw im using or something..but ive tried alot...i found a link on someone posted in chinese  http://www.cnethand.com/pc/opes/win2/2001714104520.php ...anyhow i ran the latest and greatest systran pro translator on it (not too great) and came up with some 2 none sense...it seems this person has used a different type of command line...  cdimage -lWIN2000_EN -t06/04/00,00:00:00 -h -n -bg:boot.bin -o -m
well ive tried that too...its not like im not trying..its just i dont know what the boot.image is i guess....i am doing 98se/me/2kpro/2kadvanserver...what boot image should i use...i alos have tried many other links and have found how to make a boot image from a floopy of course..but one problem...it seems i cant make a .img/.bin unless i use 9x and im now on 2k ;(.....for most i have got some progress...but lack the correct process somehow...what is that cmd line that this chinese man used that differes from the one here...it mentions something about a menu in the translation...i will post that below....can somebody please help us out here....ive tried alot of different ways its seems im now trying to do the one from  http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/#multi
anyways..here is my pitifule translation of this person\'s article from systran pro software.

(there is some non-related stuff at top of the article related to how to in linux/unix i think and then there is the instructions of the cdimage prog...after that there is this)

Certainly it not only is N which uses to be made WIN2000 gathers 1.  
To all \" massive documents repetition \" situation, all may display
enormous function with it.  But......  Good elephant this kind of
situation are not many......  Everybody lifts example?  


Concrete procedure:  


1, constructs one table of contents, regards as it light plate root
table of contents which is you must make, content which all must put
all makes, for instance, this table of contents calls c:  ewin3in1,
inside separately has  


C:  ewin3in1pro  

C:  ewin3in1server  

C:  ewin3in1advserver  


Table of contents, separately corresponds three WIN2000 edition.  Now
examines table of contents attribute, should or are more in 800M,
unable puts on one piece of light plate.  


2, now with CDIMAGE procedure, (you wants to produce ISO document
table of contents in another one table of contents) center moves:  


Cdimage -lWin2K3IN1 -t07/30/01,00:00:00 -h -n -o -m c:  ewin2k
My3IN1.ISO  


Directly will move CDIMAGE demonstrates parameter explanation.  Under
simply explains one commonly used parameter significance:  


-l:  (Is JKL L, is not IBM I) this is light plate volume sign  

-t:  Will possess time which document will suppose assigns, will look
very specialized  

-h:  Includes hideaway document  

-n:  Permits long document name  


-o:  This is most important, CDIMAGE essence is it.  Automatic
judgement repetition document, only processes one time to repetition
document, and automatic revision correlation document direction.  
Tacitly approves is uses document size and MD5 algorithm carries on
comparison (I also not very understands, probably is and CHECKSUM
similar concept method) from probability angle looks accuracy is quite
high, but certainly is not \" by byte contrast \".  If you request by
byte contrast, with -oc parameter.  But speed is extremely slow.  



-m:  Does not add this parameter speech, will not be able to produce
which will be bigger than 650M ISO reflection  


C:  ewin2k:  This is light plate root table of contents.  CDIMAGE
will start structure light plate table of contents structure by this
table of contents, on hard disk c:  ewin2kpro will turn into light
plate x:  pro  


My3IN1.ISO:  This is ISO document name which finally produces.  It
already was after optimization.  


3, finally only must record software with fever (like EASY CD CREATOR
CREATE DISK FROM IMAGE) engraves ISO light plate promptly may.  


Gathered to this our N 1 completes.  Certainly this piece of plate
only is simple three installments item recording and sending out in in
the same place, moreover cannot start.  Compared with ideal situation
is, makes light plate forms image 2000 such automatically starts and
starts installment, more ideal situation is open machine appears menu,
may choose installs PRO/SERVER or ADVSERVER, then automatic transfer
corresponding installment procedure.  


1) MD ewin2kenglishwin2000pro  

server  

AdvSvr  

And put each version into the dir  

2) copy Cdrom_ia.5, cdrom_is.5, cdrom_ip.5, cdrom_nt.5 to ewin2k  

3) copy anthing else you want into the \" root \" directory--ewin2k  

Make the cdimage with the command:  

Cdimage -lWIN2000_EN -t06/04/00,00:00:00 -h -n -bg:  boot.bin -o -m  


Mainly has 2:  One is puts DROM_XX.5 these documents to light packing
table of contents, lets installment procedure think this is original
negative.  Time ºòÓÃ -bc which moreover needs to make one reflection
document like boot.bin which starts floppy disk then makes CDIMAGE:  
boot.bin lets ISO be possible to start.  



This kind of plate certainly also has shortcoming, moreover is
obvious:  


1, if light plate has some place damage, just again is everybody \"
sharing \" system document, then possible 3 WIN2000 all will to
discard, unable installs.  Ordinary light plate only is damages that
document respective that one edition.  



2, is best must have light plate engraves record machine, this kind of
ISO ¾µÏó, with WINIMAGE solution is has significance, WINIMAGE
certainly does not understand this kind structure which fixes reforms,
it will arrive according to table of contents table all document
solution hard disk, alike document was duplicated certain.  Is equal
at returns to original state before optimization condition.  Likely
that EWIN 6 gathers one, unties behind good likely has about 1.9G.  


But these shortcomings all are not on the other hand important.  

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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2001, 09:03:35 AM »
Could you post the Url were you originaly receved that informaion from????

http://www.cnethand.com/pc/opes/win2/2001714104520.php

ooops I saw that just after posting http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':(\' />

I wonder if a GUI program could automate the process if it was given the reletive folders and image files that were needed???

Edited by The_Flames on 09/25/01 09:04 AM.