Author Topic: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s (Read 83350 times)

Twinkie · « **Reply #260 on:** January 11, 2002, 07:52:06 PM »

Extract directx into a folder. copy that over with oem options and run this from the batch file.

dxsetup.exe /silent /reboot

It installs with no dialog progress and no need for you to select any ok box before reboot. Still looking at the Media Player exe to find the same options. I found a reference to /Q /R:N in there though. I was gonna try that tomorrow.

Twinkie · « **Reply #261 on:** January 11, 2002, 08:00:12 PM »

on a whim I just tried that without adding /reboot

I don\'t know if because I already installed it did not need to reboot or if that is the answer. I will try it out on a test machine over the weekend.

Anyway, it installed without the need for reboot just now.

thatkgbagent · « **Reply #262 on:** January 11, 2002, 08:44:01 PM »

sorry, what do you mean by copy it over with oem options? do you mean copy it to the $oem$ folder on the setup cd?

from my attempts, directx seems to behave such that it doesn\'t reboot if it\'s already installed, but does force a reboot if it hasn\'t been installed yet.

i got ahold of shutdown and will be trying that...

kgb

DavoNZ · « **Reply #263 on:** January 11, 2002, 09:33:11 PM »

XP doesn\'t have the bootdisk images on it - or at least my xp pro doesn\'t. The bootdisk images on win2000 (and NT) were so you could make bootable diskettes and then boot you PC form the diskettes, but now that most everybody has bootable CD drive there is no need for the boot images. What xp does and win2k (or so i think ) is when the CD boots a small boot program is loaded into memory, it gives out the message \"press anykey to boot from CD\", then it loads another program (setupldr.bin or similar name) on the CD that expands files on the CD needed for setup. So of course if you are going to rewrite a bootable xp cd you need to extract the boot program from the CD... check www.geocities.com/koolasnz/ , it hasn\'t been completed (just started it yesterday), but in the download menu i have put i bootget - the 3 programs are from bart\'s (last time i checked barts site was not there), download it and read the instructions and you will be able to extract the boot image from any bootable CD... dos, w9x, ME, NT, 2k and XP... Then you can rewrite any boot CD you want...

XRay1720 · « **Reply #264 on:** January 14, 2002, 04:49:07 AM »

Hey People.

First of all: This forum is great. Keep up the great work.
Thx to Twinkie, The Flames and OZ for the guides and stuff. Very very useful.

Following those instructions i made a ISO. It boots and starts the install without any probs.
But after it loads some drivers (shortly after F6) it says the following:

\"WPROvgaoem.fon\"
\"WSRVvgaoem.fon\"
\"ASRVvgaoem.fon\" Could not be loaded. Reboot.

Shouldn´t those files be in the \"uenglishxxxi386\" folders ?
After examining all *.sif *.txt and *.dat files they all point to the correct locations. As i downloaded them and never edited them. Also i made the directory structure exactly as in twinkies instructions.
If i copy those files (vgaoem.fo_) in the directories (WSRV-WPRO and ASRV) it continues with another error message.

\"cxxx.xxx\" Could not be loaded.

Do i need to copy the whole \"i386\" folder to the bootdisk folder ??

Please some suggestions what i did wrong. Anything else just works fine.

Warm greetings.
XRay1720

P.S.: I´m also working on a \"How-To\". So if someone
interested send a e-mail. Will send as soon as it is
complete. Also working on a localized version in
German.

[email protected]

Twinkie · « **Reply #265 on:** January 14, 2002, 11:40:49 AM »

place any folders you want copied to C in the following path:

/i386/$OEM$/$C

you can change the drive letter of course. Then point to C:%prog% to execute your install.

Still working on getting directx to not reboot. You are right about not needing to reboot if already installed. My mistake.

Twinkie · « **Reply #266 on:** January 14, 2002, 11:48:05 AM »

There is a pointer missing somewhere. I have not had that problem. Double-check your SETUPLDR.BIN and TXTSETUP.SIF. Txtsetup has one edit and Setupldr has three edits for Win2000. If you are still having the problem and are positive the files are correct post again please.

The_Flames · « **Reply #267 on:** January 14, 2002, 12:23:59 PM »

the files that are on my site here or here has the files that oz used they are the basis for most peoples sucessessfull attempts to making a working 3 in 1 cd the guide on Twinkie\'s guide is easer to follow than mine, so this is just letting you know were you try to get the files if your copies are currupt!

Twinkie · « **Reply #268 on:** January 14, 2002, 12:38:36 PM »

In the W2000 section I am pretty sure I used the files hosted by Flames. The only change was to the diskemu.cmd file I think. Otherwise, the files should be the same.

Why recreate the wheel?

Note to all: It appears that Geocites puts a limit on the downloads from your site per month. I hit that already, so I will be looking into finding another home for my site soon. I may even get a domain name to go with it. Depends on how much $$$ I can come up with. Till then, if you run into problems with my site please check in with Flame\'s site.

Hopefully you don\'t mind Flames,

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Thanks,

thatkgbagent · « **Reply #269 on:** January 14, 2002, 06:17:16 PM »

twinkie: got shutdown, got it to work. now my guirunonce is really long and i have a huge autologon count, but i have it installing nearly all the basic applications i want. just having a glitch on my orinoco (wireless card for laptop) client in suppressing a dialog box that opens. i did have to extend the time limits on the forced shutdown to be sure that the softwares had enough time to install themselves fully (some were getting truncated and failing).

do you know how to pipe in just a mouseclick for a dialog box button? (not that big a deal since there should be a way to suppress the dialog box in the first place, but just curious...)

smooth like butta.

kgb

Anonymous · « **Reply #270 on:** January 14, 2002, 06:41:59 PM »

To slipstream the i386 directory, execute the following command.

c:installsp2fulli386updateupdate.exe -s:c:installw2kcd

Note that some of the documentation incorrectly refers to /s. Also, ensure that there is no space between the –s switch and the destination path. Note also that it’s the CD root that is specified and not the i386 directory itself. This operation can only be performed on a Windows 2000 computer.

The directory should now contain at least the following files and folders:
i386
cdrom_ip.5
cdrom_nt.5
cdromsp2.tst

If the CD is not a Windows 2000 Professional CD (e.g. Server) then the identifier files required will differ. Refer to www.bink.nu for details.

The cdromsp2.tst file needs to be in the root, otherwise you will be prompted to insert the SP2 CD during setup. This is a zero byte file, so can be created by hand if necessary.

Space Between · « **Reply #271 on:** January 15, 2002, 09:20:19 AM »

Has anyone tried a multi ghosting image yet created with cdimage.exe?

?if it is possible it would make things alot easier for you that are trying to have certain files installed after initial boot. If you were creating this disc for use by someone other than yourself you would not be dictating what gets installed and leave that up to the user. So obviously you would be better off with a ghost for yourself in this case.

fugazi · « **Reply #272 on:** January 15, 2002, 11:00:23 AM »

I managed to get the DirectX 8.1 to install without rebooting, in a round about way...

what i did was ran the \'dx81nteng.exe /Q:A /R:N, and then in my script put a wait of 1 minute, then using a utility to kill processes, killed the process....then scripted a reboot with shutdown.exe....

haven\'t noticed any ill effects as of yet. the same process DID NOT work for Media Player 7.1...

Not real sure why Microsoft would make it that difficult to automatically deploy those two...dummies.

Anonymous · « **Reply #273 on:** January 15, 2002, 11:25:10 AM »

...i also just got both to install without hacking or rebooting.

extracted DirectX8.1 to a folder, then ran dxsetup /install (did not prompt nor force a reboot)(verified DX8.1 installed)

extracted MediaPlayer7.1 to a folder, then ran setup_mp /Q:A /R:N (did not prompt nor force a reboot)(verified MP7.1 installed)

Give it a shot. This was tested on a fresh Win2K Pro SP2 with the applicable hotfixes installed prior to testing.

I\'d be happy to assist anyone trying to do the same. I so far have everything automated and generating post-install reports and hfnetchk reports. Moving on to the scripted Office XP install....oh the joys of sysadmin...

Twinkie · « **Reply #274 on:** January 15, 2002, 12:31:33 PM »

The problem I think we are all having is the error with setup_mp running in dos mode. The system does not recognize the exe as a valid prog. Some tech notes in the M$ KB note that you should only run MP71 install from explorer. What kind of file are you using to get MP71 to install. Batch, VB, custom?

Note: dxsetup /install /silent does exactly what you say. I just tested on a new machine at work. No reboot, no dialog. Yeah!

Thanks,

fugazi · « **Reply #275 on:** January 15, 2002, 01:56:12 PM »

what i am doing:

install win2k pro sp2 (using 3-in-1 cd and winnt.sif on floppy)

winnt.sif contains
[GuiRunOnce]
Command0=a:part1.cmd

[part1.cmd] = Sets some temp variables needed later during script, maps Z: to %REPOSRV%%REPOPATH%, xcopies an 89MB folder called SUPPORT to c:winntposttempsupport.

(In Support i have all the hotfixes, IE6, MP71, DX81 etc...)

...script runs hfnetchk and saves as a report to %POSTINSTALLREPORTS%, sets variables permanently via registry merge (so i don\'t have to continue to manually \'set\' everything). calls %PATHTOSUPPORT%IE6IE6SCR.CMD( which installs IE6 silently), sets the RunOnce registry via merge to run %PATHTOSUPPORT%part2.cmd on next boot, then calls %PATHTOSUPPORT%reboot.cmd, which contains commands to do shutdown.exe (from reskit) to reboot the system.

[part2.cmd] = contains commands to run another hfnetchk report, install IE6 update Q313675, set registry again, reboot again...

[part3.cmd] = installs hotfixes:q252795, q285156, q285851, q296185, q298012, q299796, q302755 and q296441. Then runs qchain.exe, runs another hfnetchk report, sets runonce again, calls reboot.cmd

[part4.cmd] = calls %PATHTOFIXES%MP71MP71SCR.CMD, which unzips mp71.exe and then installs using /Q:A /R:N, runs another hfnetchk report, sets registry, calls reboot.

[part5.cmd] = calls %PATHTOFIXES%DX81DX81SCR.CMD, which unzips DX81NTeng.exe and installs using /install, sets registry, calls reboot.cmd

[part6.cmd/officexp.cmd] runs hfnetchk report, maps a drive to %REPOSRV%%REPOPATH%OfficeXP (also var\'d as %PATHTOOFFICE%) and launches an Admin Install (with transform) of OfficeXP SP1, saves the log to %PATHTOREPORTS% and calls reboot.cmd.
============================================

this is obviously a work in progress and a lot of testing has been done to work out the process and timings (still not 100%).

I think i may *zip* the whole support directory on the server and unpack to the local system...to save copy time across the network, not sure if it will speed things up or not. also need to work on adapting it to work from CD if possible...also going to be adding quite a few more \'post install tweaks/registry mods\"...never ending...

It does seem to be going very well...just takes a bit of patience. I tried to write each script modular and using the variables at all times, this way all I need to do in my part1.cmd is modify the %REPOSRV% value to a different repository server and i can use it anywhere in my organization.

If anyone has further questions or wishes to add anything, feel free to email me @ [email protected]

Anonymous · « **Reply #276 on:** January 16, 2002, 11:42:25 AM »

extract the contents of your MP7.exe file to a folder , use winzip

if there are any .MSI files in the media player setup package, try running them under msiexec.exe with a switch to prevent reboooting

or install the INF files with sysocmgr.exe using a modified sysoc.inf file

Twinkie · « **Reply #277 on:** January 16, 2002, 12:52:30 PM »

Okay, just tested the windows media player silent install using your commands on a total of four machines now. Guess what, the last three worked fine. I am going to have to figure out why my computer did not work. I will stop pestering you about how you did it now. Oops,

To copy over the updates and fixes I used an oem folder to copy over a cab file. Then used the windows extract to then open the cab to the right spot for further install. Works for me. I will post back with the location of the cab creater. It is somewhere in the forum I am sure. Pretty sure this is where I got the file from anyway.

TheMarine · « **Reply #278 on:** January 17, 2002, 10:09:00 AM »

Thanks for the info. Twinkie had on his site that XP had a BootDisk directory and I wanted to make sure his site was correct. Helping out in fine tuning on Multi OS bootdisks. Almost there myself.

Thanks again

TheMarine

The_Flames · « **Reply #279 on:** January 17, 2002, 10:39:50 AM »

I just knoticed that i didnt put my urls correctly on my post

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there there are if you want the files if you cannot get them from Twinkie

main link

other route

sorry to anyone who tryed the link before

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Author Topic: Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s (Read 83350 times)

thatkgbagent

DavoNZ

XRay1720

thatkgbagent

Anonymous

Space Between

fugazi

Anonymous

fugazi

Anonymous

TheMarine