Bootable Win2k CD with multi OS\'s

[jojitb]

Ok. Thanks Kfh!  I\'m reading the translated one right now and it seems less detailed than OZ\'s version. But I guess I have to liv with it.  I just wish somebody saved OZ\'s guide and then post it somewhere or maybe he could revive his site and just not bother with emails...

[Space Between]

Kfh thankyou..im not too sure on on the driver part but my cdrom is assigned a drive letter currently...im using the boot.img that was suggested at nu2.nu..bart\'s page i think that is... as far as Oz\'s 3in1 guide i got that....i dont know if i should post a link to it but in my opinion good work should not die just because the author did ;P

http://www.homestead.com/ludlowsucks/files/0z_3in1.zip

[jojitb]

Hi Space!
Is the URL correct?  If you don\'t mind and if the file is less than 1MB couldyou send it to my Email Removed account?
mailtto:jojitbEmail Removed

[Kfh]

Hurrah. 2 of my most frustrating problems are solved:

1) ntdetect failed ...
    If you are getting this, then you dont have the correct setupldr.bin in the root asrv, wpro and wsrv dirs. Follow oz/wwwfox instructions.

2) insert sp2 cd-rom ....
   Now this was interesting. Did some search on the ms site and came across a kb article that mentioned it (they describe it as the setup process loosing the cd-rom drive letter). Now the circumstances are different in the kb article, but it got me thinking. I have an ide cdrom and a scsi cdwriter. I was booting off the ide cdrom, so maybe the scsi cdwriter was confusing the brain dead win2k setup. So I removed the writer from the scsi chain and relaunched setup. VOILA, no problems.

Time to create my own 10in1 cd http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'\' />

Space, how is win98 setup going? If you want, I can send you the boot sector off my win98se cd.

Sic1Nine, you can hide files by ticking off the hidden checkbox from the file\'s properties sheet (on the context menu).

[Sic1Nine]

Thanks Kfh.. I was attempting this build from memory since I don\'t have access to Oz\'s site anymore.  Copied the setupldr.bin from the I386\'s of the respective 2k versions to the root ASRV/PRO/WSRV folders and retried the process but still got the same error msg.  Would you also be able to email me that *.zip file that you posted?  sic1nineEmail Removed.  Couldn\'t get it from the link \"We can\'t find the page\" error pops up ;-(   Also tried following the translated version of the wwwfox.net which suggests that the setupldr.bin and txtsetup.sif files be edited for the respective cd folder structures of the respective versions of w2k.. I don\'t recall Oz\'s site mentioning that but did it anyways and .. Lo and behold.. the blue screen.. Installaion blue that is....Joy... ;-)  But alittle ways into the installation got the BSOD screen ;-(  Back to the drawing board.. Going to copy the edited *.sif and *.bin files to the I386 directories of the  respective w2k versions to see if that does it.  Houston we have a problem... I get to where the files are being copied to the hd of the test pc but as soon as it gets to the part where \"Windows 2000 is starting\" I get a BSOD display (*** Stop: 0x0000006B ...yada yada ...Process1_Initialization _Failed).  Any suggestions?  thanks

[Kfh]

The reason you dont edit setupldr.bin and txtsetup.sif files in the oz version is because he has already done the change for you. It is a trivial change in the sif file (it is a txt file) and only a little bit more for setupldr.bin (because it is a binary file).

If you got BSOD, then it is probably because setupldr.bin is corrupted. Use a binary editor to carry out the edits in this one.

[The_Flames]

Before Oz took the 3-1 guide down I Downloaded a copy, if anyone would like I could upload it and place a link to it in here http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'\' />

PS has anyone incorporated win 9x into the cd yet, if so how?

[The_Flames]

Did you know if you use a evaluation boot disk to start an instalation of 2k you will get the evaluation version installed,  I found this out when I could only find my win 2k pro evaluation boot disks, I had the i386 folder on my hdd, when I made the 3-1 cd and tested on a \"virtual pc\" (trial ver) it installed ok but was the evaluation version. so I did a bigger search found the full bootdisks, remade the iso and it worked as the full ver, I wonder what would happen if I used the full bootdisks and a evaluation i386 folder?


I think I\'m gonna play with that a bit http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'\' />

[jojitb]

The_Flames
Could you post it?  I really want to get a copy, please....

[Sic1Nine]

Kfh.. I used the proggie Ultraedit to edit those files.. Not sure how it may have gotten corrupted but I\'ll retry again

[The_Flames]

You will find the guide on my site now

my site is \"http://guy.ipfox.com\"



and people take note, IF I get flamed about the information it will disappear.

[Oz.]

TheFlames.

It\'s really good to see you respect my copyright on the page, also at the very top I have written,

\"However this manual still works 100% OK, one more thing, don\'t steal this manual, it has taken a long time to make!\"

Very nice indeed.

As for the second part of the manual, it was actually written and ready to opload when the abusive emails arrived, so no way I\'ll EVER up it, ESPECIALLY when someone like you steal my work.

Oz

[Space Between]

Oz dont be greedy with information...especially the kind you spent alot of time and effort on creating. I understand you point that is why i was not too sure if i should set a link to it...but as you can see above in my last post i did. However, i didnt not and will not use it to make a webpage...but it saves time from downloading my .zip file which is the same thing as a webpage anyhow. If you dont want your information to be shared...the dont show it to anybody. You should of taxed the page for people to use with a paypal acct. or something. Or better yet make someone actually purchase a license agreement. You think im serious about that Oz??...i hope not because that is ridiculous. Anyways its out there and i would like to say thankyou. Thankyou for putting it up, it was and still is the only way i know how to do it. So all in all your a good guy ;P...no matter what.

Kfh...no luck on the win98se install yet...im not too sure on what yoiu meant by editing the autoexact.bat file. I do that already on win2k but not during installation. Would i make it like this??

[autoexec.bat]
copy W:win98 X:win98
run x:win98setup /is

???or something like that???  will this pause and wait for the copying to complete?? Only problem is i cant control what drive letter the cdrom takes on can i?? currently since i have no dos/fat partition it takes on the role of C:...you did mention something about making sure it takes on a drive letter but can i control which lettter? also what is a good binary code editor??? I dont know much about programming besides names... is VB6, C++, Java a good one???

[The_Flames]

Oz

IF you realy want me to remove the page from my site I will !!!

I didnt want to offend you, I just saw you site removed and other people asking about the information, and I thaught there wouldnt be any harm in sharing the information, If you had registered your handle on the forums I would of mail you first to asked if you objected!

If I were gonna steel the information I would of clamed it as my own, removed any trace of your involment. Insted It was a update of the links( fixed links are not the best way to work from by the way) and added a few links. If you plan to restart your forum, or site, I would add links to them!

PS the information has only been up about 4 hrs !!!

[jojitb]

OZ
I would like to thank you for creating a great how-to.  I\'m just a lttle sad that you took it down just because of some assholes who do  not appreciate your work.  

I understand that you have the right to post or not to post your work but for people like us who want to, how can we learn if people do not give information freely? I really thank The_Flames for posting it again for us who were too late to get it from your site.  I know that if you ever decide to put it up again, he would gladly remove it from his site...

Also, if you do not care to post the 2nd part, could you find it in your heart to give me a copy?  i will not post it to the web, nor will I send it to anybody else, unless you ask me...  

mail:jojitbEmail Removed

Regards,
Jojitb

[Kfh]

Oz, give the guy (flames) a break. The link clearly attributes the page to you. Blame those who sent those stupid emails to you.

For all those who want to make this cd bootable, there is another way to make it so. Read LotusNymphea\'s post in this thread. It is extermely easy and you dont need to edit any binary files. If you want more info, just search for \"bootable cd\" on google and you will be amazed by all the links returned.

Space, I dont think you have to copy all win98 install files to the hd before installing; it can install from cd just fine (but a little slower). You would need something like this in autoexec.bat:

cd win98set
setup

The above assumes that the install files are in the win98set dir. You probably dont need the cd drive letter because the win98 boot image should leave you in the root dir of the cd.

I use ultraedit (also recommended by Oz) as the binary editor.

Good luck.

[Josetann]

It was Oz\'s work, he can do whatever he wants to with it.  Now if someone studied it, and came up with their own how-to, that would be ok.

That said, I would like it if he let it stay up somewhere, with all the recognition but none of the grief.  What I would also like would be to take all this info we have from all these separate places and make some of our own how-to\'s.  Perhaps one just for a multi-boot Windows CD (we could provide all the files we could to make the CD work in different configurations, i.e. three Win2k installs, and Win98...three Win2k\'s and WinMe, one Win2k and one Win98...you get the picture).  And also a how-to on doing this yourself, complete with screenshots, links to programs needed, etc.

[Kfh]

Josetann, this is a good idea. I would be willing to help out in this.

I think I have figured out the 2nd part of Oz\'s way, but I think that the other way (by LotusNymphea) is much better and definitely much simpler. Again, this is not to detract anything from Oz\'s efforts (after all, the \"other way\" picks up where Oz\'s 1st part ends). In all my searching on the web, I have not come across such detailed and clearer instructions as those contained in Oz\'s way. By the way, those who explored Oz\'s web site would definitely miss those other areas as well. Perhaps we can all somehow convince Oz to re-up his site.

Oz, I have visited your forum also, and you complained that only 2 people are interested in 3in1 cd. I think that this thread here is ample proof that a lot more people than that are interested in it and most of them are perfectly reasonable. In this thread, you have been credited the most with creating the 3in1 cd. So many accolades, ton loads of thanks. I dont know how else can one appreciate your work more?

[The_Flames]

As Oz Has requested that the page to be removed in an almost polite metherd I will remove his page.

I feel sory for OZ that he feel that he has to remove the information from every web site but as he has done all the hard work I wont complain.

The site will be removed in 6-8 hrs time when I\'m out of Univeristy and I can get online.

my site has a rule, if I made the content it\'s in the main window or it in it\'s own window.

PS defination of steal from dictionary.com
To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
To get or effect surreptitiously or artfully: steal a kiss; stole the ball from an opponent.
To move, carry, or place surreptitiously.
To draw attention unexpectedly in (an entertainment), especially by being the outstanding performer: The magician\'s assistant stole the show with her comic antics.
Baseball. To advance safely to (another base) during the delivery of a pitch, without the aid of a base hit, walk, passed ball, or wild pitch.



the worst that i did was research without enough inclooded sources as all of those relate to phyisical things!!!!

[The_Flames]

I have had an Idea

If I can rember my batch programming skills I could make an batch file that could do all the required tasks to create the cd,
then I could post that on my site, people would be able to create the 3-1 cd, Oz would have his work removed, I can put the credit for the information to him, and some were somebody may be happy( I hope ).