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« on: October 21, 2002, 06:57:13 PM »
I am going to partition 60 gig H/D. I would like to move all possible files and programs to second partition, reformat and reinstall XP O/S on first partition on 2 gigs, then share files and programs with second  O/S (Linux) to be installed later.Which files and programs can I move safely and how?  Note: Will be using Partition Magic

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2002, 08:17:16 AM »
well move what ever you want to be saved.

but putting windows XP onto a 2 gig partititon? are you trying to choke XP? i sugest nothing less then 5 gigs for XP.

And as much as everyone loves partition magic, i personaly aviod it.

but good luck.

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2002, 12:25:09 AM »
no offense but this
\" Which files and programs can I move safely and how? \"
makes no sense for us here...how can we tell what you have on your computer??? you understand im sure.

anyhow you could just drag and drop them right??? i would imagine.

which also Tracky is right...anything less than 5gigs is a mistake...on a 60gig i would put it at 20gigs personnaly...nothing below 10gig for love i god..i know that...the install of XP alone seems to take up 147Petabytes

also i wouldnt suggest putting linux on the same HDD for unless your carefull not to overwrite the MBR...sounds like you might do this out of experience..so i thought a heads up would be in order.

also...if you move all your folders over...then how will you run them??? like the folder \"Program Files\" is not the best thing to move...nor is the folder \"WINDOWS\" or \"WINNT\". i would suggest formatting to a 15gig for win and the rest to linux...then installing linux first followed by windows...either way make sure you use lilo or whatever you gonna use is setup right.

btw...\"PartitionMagic\" has the nickname of \"PartitionTragic\" for more than it just sounds funny....beware...it might be the worst of the worst for partitioning tools.

however for partitionmagic..i will say this...it\'s recovery options are pretty damn good...but then again for the partitioning performance of that application it has to have good recovery :-)

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2002, 04:31:35 AM »
I have tried linux too (Red Hat 5.0  I think ), a long time ago with no experience at all about linux , I even got me a manual .
 At least , I got two harddisks , one with win 98  and the other Linux  .Everything worked fine untll one day I entered my password in Linux and it didn\'t accept my password anymore and I got rid of it  .I still don\'t know why ,  still ,linux isn\'t bad at all ,and you can do a lot more yourself  in configuring than in Windows , but it\'s not easy .Getting it on one harddisk together with winxp I would never try , even with two harddisks you must keep a clear head or you\'ll install it over your windows operating sytem .
Anyway winxp needs at least  5 gb , but I find 10 even better

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2002, 09:54:20 AM »
The boys are right, 2 gig is way too small to put XP on....use at least 5 but more like 15 or 20 gigs.  In fact if its your primary OS, use most of the drive for XP.  Back up all your important stuff to a file on another hard disk would be the best way to do it.  Then format and repartition the 60 gig.  Depending on what version of Linux you are using, if its newer, the GRUB boot loader (Redhat linux 8 has it, Im pretty sure 7.3 uses it too) will dual boot into XP/2000 and linux.  If you are a newbie to the dual booting, you might want to consider another alternative.  Or you could back up your data onto a 2nd disk, install XP on the 60 gig, then restore the backed up files from the 2nd disk to the 60 gig, then use the 2nd disk as your linux disk.  Install linux onto the 2nd disk (setup as a slave on the primary controller or a master on the 2ndary controller), install linux on it, use GRUB as the boot loader, allow it to overwrite the master boot record, and it should dual boot into either OS.  If you mess up and destroy all bootability, and you want to get back into XP without reinstalling, you can boot off the XP cd, select RETORE/RECOVERY mode and type FIXMBR at the c: prompt.  That will fix the master boot record and allow you to boot into XP and ingore the Linux os altogether.  MAKE SURE WHEN INSTALLING LINUX THAT HAVE THE OPTION FOR MAKING A BOOT DISK SELECTED.  I say this because if you replace the MBR with FIXMBR as previously stated, you can still use the Linux boot disk to boot into Linux and bypass the MBR on the primary disk altogether and some semblance of dual booting will still work.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2002, 03:33:54 PM »
Call me crazy but why don\'t you just upgrade your existing partition to XP so you can keep all files where they are.  if you want to make an extra partition go ahead and use it as storage but if you are seriously considering linux then Windows will never see the linux partitions anyway.  My advice is to leave 2 partitions to windows, one for the operating system the other just for data, and the rest of space for linux.  If you\'re using partition magic, this means 3 partitions. Just leave the last partition blank because almost all linux distro\'s (at least any current ones) most likley contain their own installation programs in which it lets you choose the open space to install to and walks you through the partitioning steps.  (Linux needs to make more than one partition, at least 2, one for / and one for swap, but more is sometimes better like having / on it\'s own and /home and or /usr/bin on their own plus the swap)

If you are going to do this windows needs to be on first.  Someone said put linux on first but (sorry) i\'d have to disagree.  Linux is more configurable and allows better flexibility (not to mention plays a lot nicer with other OS\'s on the system) than Windows.  Usually Windows will overwrite the MBR so if you install linux first with Grub or LILO as the boot loader, chances are Windows will overwrite it if you installed it in the MBR.  Also, with respect to you wanting to put files on a different partition, that\'s a good idea.  Remember, linux can mount a windows partition and you can access the files i.e. you have a folder of music files on the data partition that can be mounted under linux and therefore played by both windows and linux.  However, i would not recommend installing linux on a FAT partition b/c EXT2 or EXT3 (or ReiserFS etc.) is half of what makes linux so great.  If you don\'t know what I\'m talking about then do a little more research into linux before putting it on your machine otherwise chances are you will install it and get frustrated with it, then never use it again.  If you\'ve used linux before and are comfortable with it then by all means give it a little more space if you are planning on using it.  Most casual linux users are going to need tons of room to run it especially if they plan on having a partition they are going to use to access data in both windows and linux.  

Anyway, good luck in whatever you try to do.  Remember this is just my opinion, and everybody\'s got one of those...

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2002, 08:44:11 PM »
Yeh that was me...putting linux on first i mean. I said that because like mentioned you can boot to linux from a floopy or install lilo or grub likewise. If he\'s knew to it then if he overwrite\'s tha MBR for xp then he will be extremely frustrated. But your right...that is what you should do. But if your new to or never done it...then overwriting the MBR for XP will be more frustrating to fix than for linux.

also i would like to say i dont think he is even going to look at this post again to read all this anyways. :-)...seems he has drifted away.

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2002, 01:51:31 AM »
Poor Guy, must\'ve botched up the installation and is getting frustrated already.... I think... since he has not been able to come online in either WinXP or Linux and post a thank you or something for all the tons of good info up here.....

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2002, 02:16:21 PM »
Botched is a nice word for my being down for two days. I used a wizard to walk me through and it placed Mandrake in front of my XP partition, something about it wouldn\'t work past socket 1024. I think my big mistake was labeling the Mandrake partition as active and it took over . No matter what order I set bootup I came back to Mandrake.I tried rescue disks, setting bootup in bios for cdrom, to boot to XP disk but nothing worked. As a last resort I deleted Mandrake and its boot drive completly. Then I had to move XP and all its data as well as the DISE BACKUP cowpletly across the drive to the first primary partition C with D as a logical in that partition. I have 39 gigs as my only  other partition and it is now empty .
I would like to thank everyone for there help and If anyone sees somewhere I corrupted my install, that I haven\'t noticed let me know.
I need to catch up some work today but will jump back in tomorrow. If you don\'t hear back soon after have a chuckle on me.

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2002, 02:48:30 PM »
You can ignore the warning about it not booting from a partition past the 1024 mark.  As long as you install lilo on the boot sector, you\'ll be fine.

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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2002, 03:27:58 PM »
By the way, the only way you can get rid of NTFS is a clean install and complete loss of everything not stored off HD1. I couldn\'t even install Bootmagic to change boot order because it requires Fat 32.

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2002, 06:35:24 PM »
This is true...something that came to me though. XP is different from windows 2000. There is alot of *Security* stuff in it that might and most likely make it harder to fix. Im not sure at all about this...but if i had to say that fixing this problem is easier or equally as detailed as win2k...i would have to say no. It could only be harder.

My *ONLY* experience with XP and Linux was on a friends machine. I couldnt figure it out. Like you, but opposite, no matter if we picked linux or xp it would always boot to xp...never to linux. He wound up deleting xp eventually and is not running Linux (what he knows) and FressBSD (what he sort of knows).

The only thing that i can think of know to why that would happen...is that XP does something atleast alittle different than windows 2000...but then again there are peole to get it to work...but there lucky if they run into no problems and it \"just works\".

IMOP...forget xp for now. Run 2k and see how that works.

Also there is bootdisk\'s out there for XP. I had one that had the kernel on it and would load XP right off that. So if you ran into any MBR trouble\'s...that can work.

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