Networking 2 windows xp

[Homeycheese]

Hey, I was trying to solve this very problem between two Windows XP SP2 machines.  I found that I could not connect to the computer when I did \\computername, but when I was specific like this \\computername\documents Walla! it brought it right up!  I don't know why, perhaps it is one of Microsoft's lame attempts to secure things.

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[Giles K]

In my case the problem was caused by an incorrect node type setting, which was "peer-to-peer". I don't know how it got changed - maybe by installation of the Advanced networking pack, which I later removed to try to get the networking working again. Anyway I changed it to "hybrid" by editing the registry key (see earlier posts) and my networking now works for the first time in many months.

AFAIAA hybrid is a better general purpose setting than broadcast in that it will also work in a WINS server situation (i.e. using Domains rather than Workgroups?)

Thanks to all who have contributed suggestions. I had tried many other things - this was the last one on the list! It's easy to see if the setting is correct by running the IPCONFIG /ALL command from a command window prompt.

BTW, LF - the reason you cannot connect to a machine in the way you were trying is that you can only connect to a shared folder on a disk on the remote machine (could be the whole disk). So the format \\computername\sharename is always required. sharename will be the name given under the "Share Name" box in the "Sharing and Security" dialog (XP).

[Giles K]

I also meant to say that I was having the following error messages:

System error 53 has occurred.

The network path was not found.

and

This computer name is invalid.

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2351

(I got the last one by trying NET VIEW 192.168.0.2 - which was the IP address of the share PC)

[Giles K]

And also the registry key I changed was DHCPNodeType, not plain NodeType (Win XP Pro)

[MABE]

Hi,

I have experienced similar troubles about the network settings, I have not found any solution yet.

I have a PC with Windows ME connected to a Linksys WRT54G, I have one printer installed on the ME.
My (wireless) laptop runs XP

I have change the node type in the XP to hybrid, also I have enabled NETBIOS over TCP/IP.  Also XP firewall desable.

In the ME the node type is Broadcast (I haven't found the way to change it).

When created the network on XP, created the disk and run it on the ME, same Workgroup. -Printers and folders specified as Shared.  I also specifiacally in share the printer under Printer Properties -So the "hand" is under the printer"

From the XP I can see the ME in My network places, I see the Group and the ME, however I cannot access anything else, I cannot see the printer when addig it. I cannot ping the ME machine!

From the ME I cannot even see the group, so I cannot even open the folders that are share under XP. I can ping the XP machine!! http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'\' />   Mabe

[HIRichard]

After reading through the threads and still not solving this problem, I changed the LAN cable (Cat5) and it solved the problem. So, don't rule out hardware. In fact, try that first. It's often the problem and it's the easiest thing to rule out.

[Stan Grz]

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Okay guys, For those of you who are still looking, here is the solution...
Ross has it correct with an MS post.  I had gone through all the basics and everything was correct.  Basic Networking was fine, email was fine, Internet Browsing was fine...anything that was IP based.  I disabled my Norton Internet Security and still nothing.  I could not browse shared folders.

The post from MS Here is to make sure thant NetBios over TCP/IP is turned on Local Area C

Step 1: Turn on NetBIOS over TCP/IP
   Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Network and Internet Connections.
   Click Network Connections.
   Right-click Local Area Connection, and then click Properties.
   Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), and then click Properties.
   Click the General tab, and then click Advanced.
   Click the WINS tab.
   Under NetBIOS setting, click Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and then click OK two times.
   Click Close to close the Local Area Connection Properties dialog box.
   Close the Network Connections window.

Step 2: Start the Computer Browser service
Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Manage.
Double-click Services and Applications.
Double-click Services.
In the right pane, right-click Computer Browser, and then click Start.
Close the Computer Management window.

this solved the problem I've been working on for 2 weeks.  http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'\' />

[same router, same problem]

[quote name=\'Guest_Larry\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 09:39 PM\'][email protected]

I am having the same problem. I have 2 computers both using XP pro. I have a Linksys WRT54G router. Both computers are accessing the internet okay, but I can't seem to share any files between them. I keep getting the same error that everyone else here is getting.

I tried Ross' fix but that didn't help.  My main computer can ping my remote computer, but not vice versa.   http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\'\' />[/quote]
 i tried every fix listed here and on Microsoft and have no firewalls running... I cannot ping the computers in the workgroup or access the computers in the network.  i reinstalled the adapters and everything... no help

[Eureka!]

I tried every fix you listed here and on Microsoft.  Then I found out that even though I thought I shutdown Zone Alarm because it no longer showed up in my startup icons -- however it's Integrity Client  was still a running process ... look for "iclient.exe" in your Task Manager.

I didn't realize it was still running until I figured I'd try complete removing Zone alarm... look for zauninst.exe in your Zone alarm directories!

I have probably wasted days and days on this!

I also have disabled Net Firewall on my XP2 system but will try turning it back on to see if that was having effect.

[ParadiseCowgirl]

All I can say is that making the registry change documented on the first page of this thread fixed the problem for me. So,

THANKS!

I was going batty!

(PS: I have no problem (now) just entering \\computername and seeing all the shared folders)

[colonel]

try enabling file sharing in the nic card properties

[reuben]

I've read all the posts and tried all of the suggestions that have been submitted so far. I have 2 PC's in my workgroup. One is a laptop running Windows XP Home Edition with a wireless connection to the network. The other is connected through a LAN cable to the modem and router and is running Windows XP Professional.

I can successfully ping either computer from either one. I can print from my wireless laptop to my printer which is connected to my other PC that is connected through the LAN. I can see both computers in My Network Places. When I try to copy a file or for some folders even open them i get an error:

[color=\"red\"]\\MyNetwork\folder is not accessible. You may not have permissions to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. Access is denied.[/color]

It sounds like I'm doing better than most people on this string in that I can see and ping the other computer. Both computers are set to "hybrid", NetBIOS is enabled. I have no firewalls, and the XP firewall is disabled. I run an anti-virus program called Avast. I've disabled it to see if it would make a difference but it didn't so I still run it.

I once had Zone Alarm running on my LAN PC but have long since removed it. I've run the Network Setup Wizard many times resetting the network over an over several times.

I installed Windows XP Service Pack 2 and actually saw a benefit to this right away as before I wasn't even able to see my computers in My Network Places, now I can. I have user accounts with same name and passwords and as administrators. I've changed permissions to allow for everything to be read - write - execute on all the shared folders. File and Printer Sharing is enabled.

I'm at wits end in trying to solve this. I just want it to work and I'm at the point of considering an OS reinstall on my LAN computer as it hasn't had one in several years. I'm open to more suggestions, and hope somebody has a similar problem and have been able to get through it.

[Guest]

Many thanks to Jherek for his suggestion - add administrator to guest permissions. Thats the one that solved it for me after 2 months of trying with the help of numerous guys who do this stuff for a living - but who couldn't solve the problem!

[vortexae]

[quote name=\'Guest\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 12:22 PM\']After doing a lot of head scratching and a lot of the suggestions above, here's what worked for me:

Simple file sharing, the only method on Windows XP Home and one of two choices on Windows XP Professional, always uses the Guest account. (Classic file sharing also automatically uses the Guest account if the original logon request fails.) If access through the Guest account is inhibited, then sharing cannot work, except when logging on to XP Professional with classic file sharing through another account.

There is a user rights policy to deny network access to certain users and groups, which contains a SUPPORT user and often, perhaps by default, Guest. If Guest is included here, guest access from other computers will not be possible and yields the error message, "Logon failure: The user has not been granted the required logon type at this computer.". Double-click on the policy and remove Guest from it.

For network access to Windows XP Pro with classic file sharing (Simple File Sharing disabled) through the Guest account, the Guest account has to be enabled on Windows XP and network login for the Guest account has to be permitted in Computer Management, Local Users and Groups.

Hope this helps somebody.[/quote]
It did, it did! This was the solution for me.

My situation is exactly as you describe: My XP Home laptop could see my XP Pro desktop in the workgroup but could not access its contents.

As you described, I went on the XP Pro desktop and went into ...

* Administrative Tools
*** Local Security Policy...

* Local Policies
*** User Rights Assignment...

And found the key "Deny Logon Locally," and removed "Guest" from it.

Bingo!

Of course, now that means that anyone who gets past our hub's firewall and our WEP can also log onto the home computer and access SharedDocs and Shared Printers. Whoopdee. I don't feel worried about this, but my better half would prefer to find another solution. Two things come to mind: Upgrade my laptop from XP Home to XP Pro (expensive) or replace our workgroup with an actual domain and set up the XP Pro desktop as a proper domain controller (complicated and beyond our current knowledge). Any one of you gurus care to comment on either solution or the appropriateness of worrying about it in the first place?

Thank you thank you,
--
Niki

[vortexae]

[quote name=\'vortexae\' date=\'Oct 17 2004, 11:59 PM\']And found the key "Deny Logon Locally," and removed "Guest" from it.[/quote]
I am a moron. Of course I meant "Deny access to this computer from the network", not "Deny Logon Locally". Durh.

Neither computer has passwords set up. I am experimenting with creating a passworded logon on the XP Pro desktop, and mapping to that drive as that user and password from my XP Home laptop, and then adding "Guest" back to the access key here mentioned. I'm not sure what that will do to printer sharing, though...

[paul]

matterdaddy.com's peer to hybrid fix worked for me after being stumped for a long time.  thanks and good luck to everyone dealing with this bs.

[Guest]

I think you need to share something on a computer first,, otherwise windows will not let the other computers know that it is on the network!!!!  (


silent blocking....ie why tell another potential hacker etc, that you exist if you arent sharing anything anyway...)

[Steve Low]

[quote name=\'alexander\' date=\'Jan 15 2004, 03:35 PM\'][quote name=\'matterdaddy.com\' date=\'Nov 14 2003, 05:18 PM\'] 1- Open dos prompt, type ipconfig -all.
2- Look at the 'Node Type' it probably says Peer-Peer or something (this is what mine said)
... we want it to say 'Hybrid'
3- Press 'Start' button > Run... > In the box type regedit. This opens your system's registry.
4- Navigate the tree to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Services/NetBT/Parameters
5- Rt. mouse click and select New > DWORD Value
6- Name it 'NodeType' (without the quotes)
7- Rt. mouse click on it and select Modify
8- Set Value Data to '8' (no quotes)
9- Leave Base alone. 'Hexadecimal' should be selected
10- Press 'ok'
11- Close regedit and reboot. (Your done!)
12- Open dos prompt and type ipconfig -all
For node type it should now say 'Hybrid'
13- Do this to the other computer that you cannot network. Your computers should be able to see one another.
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I do not know what 'Hybrid' is, but perhaps some of the network freaks might be able to explain. I have used this on two different occasions and it seems to be the only thing that works.[/quote]
M$ docs refer to 1 as type "B", 2 as type "P", 4 as type "M", and 8 as type "H"
What this basically means is different ways of resolving netbios names.

1 = broadcast. The host sends a broadcast and the nodes which knows the ip of that name answers.
2 = peer. Sends the request directly to a wins server which looks up the name.
4 = multi node. I don't really remember but I think it starts with broadcast and if no answer does a direct lookup from a wins server.
8 = hybrid. Not sure here either, but I think it starts with a direct request to the wins server and if the server is unable to resolve the name it does a broadcast.

cheers&alex[/quote]


I've struggled with these problems for weeks--spending countless hours trying to resolve them.

Replacing "peer to peer" with "hybrid" did the trick.

Thanks to all for the great guidance.

Steve Low

[Guest]

computer management->user:guest:Properties-> member of: Administrators
worked for me (at least for one direction)

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