i haven\'t tried using winzip, i actually don\'t use it, most of the archives i find are rar or ace archives, so i use winace or winrar. i actually did get the fies to extract, i don\'t know what i did, does having 2 copies of a file make any difference? i found an old one i had downloaded the other day, in a folder i hadn\'t checked, and it extracted fine. now i\'m just trying to get a good download of win2k pro. the one i was going to use has been sitting on a cheap cd for months, and i can\'t get driver.cab to extract. oh well, found another copy that is going slowly, but i\'ll have it in 6 hours or so. thanks for the suggestions. i actually had avoided using download managers, because flashget had been giving me a lot of problems with corrupt files, but since the file i want is a zip anyways, and flashget allows fixing of corrupt zips, i may just try that again. i\'m using getright at the moment but it isn\'t speeding things up any.