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Would you trade with ______ even after what happened?

Pyro Raccoon.
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Account Sales.
2 (12.5%)
Both of them.
4 (25%)
No. I would not trade with them.
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« on: December 06, 2008, 01:48:14 PM »
[color=\"#0000ff\"]Hello There!

[color=\"#800080\"]So, as most of you have read, Account Sales and I had a bit of a bad trade. Although, this was not intentional. Here's a summary of what happened:

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  • I offered him a level 86 (perm muted) with 92 wc for $5 and a one month membership pin. I did not specify whether I wanted a PBP pin or an SMS pin.
  • He agreed to the deal, and we spoke on msn. I went first.
  • He wanted to get a PBP pin, because it's cheaper, but he hadn't ever bought a pin via phone before. (Nor have I).
  • He told me to go to the subscription page and get the number for him to phone (he was phoning from America so I said I was subscribing from the U.S. on the subscription page).
  • I gave him the number, he phoned it, but after a few rings the phone just hung up.
  • He was a little suspicious of this, so he decided to check his phone bill. The bill came to $9.99, when Jagex only charges $7.99 for this type of transaction.
  • He thought I had given him a number that charges him an amount, (so he basically thought i was scamming him) and he decided to take my account from me without giving me the pin or the $5.00, claiming he was someone else who had used a keylogger to use Account Sales MSN to scam me.
  • I found all the proof I could that the person I was speaking to really was Account Sales, and I found all the proof I could that he scammed me.
  • I then posted about this in Trader Feedback, and he then admitted to scamming me, but only because he thought I was scamming him. He said he'd keep the account until I found legitimate reasons as to why he was overcharged.
  • I found some possible reasons off of the RuneScape forums, but they didn't seem to fit the bill.
  • I found a similar case where a mother of two posted a blog entry about two charges appearing in her children's cellphone contracts, both of these charges were $9.99. They were monthly charges, and her cellphone company said to disable some features and that the charge would go away, but it didn't, and I noticed that on her bill, the company charging her the $9 was the famed Surfpin (which is the company that handles the SMS and PBP membership subscriptions on runescape).
  • Account Sales is now getting me a membership pin. (I'm not too sure if the $5.00 is still coming though) [color=\"#0000ff\"]You hear that? Account Sales is still getting me a Pin! But he needs to buy it first, so please, add him on MSN if you're selling! (He is buying two pins)[/color]
[color=\"#800080\"]Now, from what has happened and what has been said above, I ask each and every one of you reading this for your opinion on the situation, and, if possible, any extra knowledge you might know about why it has happened, and if it has happened to any of you or your friends before?

I fear that this situation might occur again on TheTechGuide, and I wish for people to be better equipped for handling this occurence in the future, just to avoid anymore misunderstandings. The reason why this is such a bad situation, is that both Account Sales and I have lost some of the trust that you readers have invested in us. (We would like to earn this back).

Also, I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd take the time to complete the poll. And Account Sales, no voting for yourself http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':P\' /> I won't vote for me.

Thank you very much for reading,
Pyro Raccoon

[color=\"#0000ff\"]P.S. If anyone feels that this belongs in the Trader Feedback section, then I will gladly let it be moved, although, I feel it has a stronger meaning in the General Discussion section.[/color]
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And for those of you who have A.D.D. and are wondering what the account I offered is like, take a look (and I forgot to tell Account Sales, the account already has every prayer book complete with pages, all you need to do is talk to the guy at the lighthouse to get them back):

« Last Edit: December 06, 2008, 01:54:36 PM by Pyro Raccoon »

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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 02:38:48 PM »
Both of use if my vote counts.
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[font=\"Lucida Console\"]Trades: 18

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"]Successful Trades: 12

[color=\"#ffff00\"]Processing Trades: 0

[color=\"#ff0000\"]Bad Trades: 1

[color=\"#ff8c00\"]Uncompleted Trades:5

[color=\"#0000ff\"]Frees : 9 Total Accounts

[color=\"#000000\"]I scammed on this account : 3 times

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>Death Angel07 Buying Member Pin From Me For Zamorak Plate (me first) - Great Trader

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"]>Paintballer121 making pure (85 wood cutting 90+ fire making)account for him for leveling 88-99 cooking - Uncompleted - My Account got hijacked[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Trained Death Angel07's Obby Pure as a gift of my gratitude for he will be MMing for me got 7 levels- Completed

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"]>Trained Gilfer88s Strength Hybrid levels 52-65 strength for 1million gold pieces - I canceled on him, but required no payment after level 56 strength so he was ok with it.[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Trained Gilfer88s Attack levels 30-40 for free - Completed

[color=\"#ff8c00\"]>Bought a pure off Im a G -Failed, he wanted me to go first (lol he joined today?)

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought a starting DDSER from trickery, i went first - Completed

[color=\"#0000ff\"]>Got a freebie acc from Trickery - Very good! - Completed

>Got a free Sig from Pyro Raccoon- EXTREMELY WELL MADE - Completed

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#ffa500\"]>Bought Zerker Pure off I loretab I for 10m - Uncompleted - Would not take 25$ eBay gift card instead

>Bought 10 million gold from Mindlogiczero - Uncompleted, would not take the prepaid 25$ eBay gift card

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Sold British Legion a member pin for a lvl 78 main - Completed

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"]>Pyro Raccoon and Had had a bad trade by getting me over charged on my phone, getting him pin anyway - Finally completed! TY for pin everlasting death![/color]

[color=\"#ff8c00\"]>Bought 3 accounts off Trickery for $45 - British Legion MM'd - British Couldn't get on for many days so we called off trade[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought Starting STR pure from Mr K (he went first)- Success

>Bought Pin from Everlasting Death - Success very fast, I went first.

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[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought 2 pins off Everylasting Death (I went first)- Completed GREAT GUY![/color] [color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought a gmauler off Rubyknight54 - Completed - Nice Smooth trade[/color]

[color=\"#ff0000\"]>Had YelYel1 train my fletching 1-70. He changed pass in the middle of it and I can not recover because it is a phished account. - FAILED (could not recover)[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Gave 2m to Pota Potey for his starting range/bher/gmauler - Completed[/color][/b]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought 1 month target card from Painballer121 Death Angel07 MM'd - Success[/color][/font][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"] [/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#0000ff\"][color=\"#000000\"]

>Scammed Kaousono 14.5m - I got all cash

>Scammed slingshot lvl 103+3 - I got acc - never recoved

>Sold 103+3 to ever lasting death for 2 pins - Easy 3.2m profit!

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 02:54:26 PM »
Well if my opinion matters, I wouldn't trust Account Sales.

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 10:50:59 PM »
I wouldn't trust either of you since you are both scammers. However I would like to vouch both of you.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 11:17:27 PM »
[quote name=\'Reazee\' post=\'449263\' date=\'Dec 7 2008, 09:50 PM\']I wouldn't trust either of you since you are both scammers. However I would like to vouch both of you.[/quote]

Yeah its Reazee, the guy who lifes off the money he scammes /wave

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 12:58:21 AM »
[quote name=\'Reazee\' post=\'449263\' date=\'Dec 8 2008, 05:50 AM\']I wouldn't trust either of you since you are both scammers. However I would like to vouch both of you.[/quote]

You didn't read properly. I never scammed, all I did was give him the phone number for surfpin that was on the official runescape billing page, and he got overcharged.

I'm gonna quote my friend Samuel here:

« Last Edit: December 08, 2008, 01:02:31 AM by Pyro Raccoon »

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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 11:00:38 AM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'449270\' date=\'Dec 7 2008, 11:58 PM\']You didn't read properly. I never scammed, all I did was give him the phone number for surfpin that was on the official runescape billing page, and he got overcharged.

I'm gonna quote my friend Samuel here:

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I am fairly certain that he is speaking of mother [censored]ing snakes on mother [censored]ing planes.

I guess what they say is true, scammers can't read lips.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2008, 12:13:58 PM »
I never made that image >.< And I am not a freaking scammer. Look at all the proof I posted to defend myself in both of the other threads in trader feedback. Read every bloody post. I'm not a freaking scammer! How the hell do I scam someone by means of a telephone call when I live in south africa!? For god freaking sakes, use your common sense!

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 03:26:26 PM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'449296\' date=\'Dec 8 2008, 11:13 AM\']I never made that image >.< And I am not a freaking scammer. Look at all the proof I posted to defend myself in both of the other threads in trader feedback. Read every bloody post. I'm not a freaking scammer! How the hell do I scam someone by means of a telephone call when I live in south africa!? For god freaking sakes, use your common sense![/quote]

Calm down, I have no interests in your silly disputes. Basically it goes like this: you are a scammer because God spoke to me and told me so. Just like he did with the other guy you are talking about in your poll, SRMN, Matthew and Alldemfatties... oh and by god I mean that Albanian Warlord guy, he is my informant on matters like these.
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2008, 03:38:38 PM »
AHHHHHHHHHH!

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2008, 04:22:41 PM »
You think I've lost my temper now? You've never seen me on a bad day  http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':angry:\' /> I'm not a scammer. There is no proof I'm a scammer. Come to think of it Account Sales said he was overcharged, but he didn't actually PROVE it...

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2008, 04:56:49 PM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'449330\' date=\'Dec 8 2008, 03:22 PM\']You think I've lost my temper now? You've never seen me on a bad day  http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':angry:\' /> I'm not a scammer. There is no proof I'm a scammer. Come to think of it Account Sales said he was overcharged, but he didn't actually PROVE it...[/quote]

ZOMG DO YOU USE ALL CAPS ON A BAD DAY?!?! OR JUST MORE FROWNY FACES!?
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2008, 05:14:33 PM »
LOL!
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[font=\"Lucida Console\"]Trades: 18

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"]Successful Trades: 12

[color=\"#ffff00\"]Processing Trades: 0

[color=\"#ff0000\"]Bad Trades: 1

[color=\"#ff8c00\"]Uncompleted Trades:5

[color=\"#0000ff\"]Frees : 9 Total Accounts

[color=\"#000000\"]I scammed on this account : 3 times

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>Death Angel07 Buying Member Pin From Me For Zamorak Plate (me first) - Great Trader

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"]>Paintballer121 making pure (85 wood cutting 90+ fire making)account for him for leveling 88-99 cooking - Uncompleted - My Account got hijacked[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Trained Death Angel07's Obby Pure as a gift of my gratitude for he will be MMing for me got 7 levels- Completed

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"]>Trained Gilfer88s Strength Hybrid levels 52-65 strength for 1million gold pieces - I canceled on him, but required no payment after level 56 strength so he was ok with it.[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Trained Gilfer88s Attack levels 30-40 for free - Completed

[color=\"#ff8c00\"]>Bought a pure off Im a G -Failed, he wanted me to go first (lol he joined today?)

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought a starting DDSER from trickery, i went first - Completed

[color=\"#0000ff\"]>Got a freebie acc from Trickery - Very good! - Completed

>Got a free Sig from Pyro Raccoon- EXTREMELY WELL MADE - Completed

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#ffa500\"]>Bought Zerker Pure off I loretab I for 10m - Uncompleted - Would not take 25$ eBay gift card instead

>Bought 10 million gold from Mindlogiczero - Uncompleted, would not take the prepaid 25$ eBay gift card

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Sold British Legion a member pin for a lvl 78 main - Completed

[color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"]>Pyro Raccoon and Had had a bad trade by getting me over charged on my phone, getting him pin anyway - Finally completed! TY for pin everlasting death![/color]

[color=\"#ff8c00\"]>Bought 3 accounts off Trickery for $45 - British Legion MM'd - British Couldn't get on for many days so we called off trade[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought Starting STR pure from Mr K (he went first)- Success

>Bought Pin from Everlasting Death - Success very fast, I went first.

[/color][/color][/color][/color][/color]
[/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#0000ff\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#ffa500\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#0000ff\"]>[/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#0000ff\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#ffa500\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#0000ff\"]Trickery Gave me[/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"] [/color][/color][/color][color=\"#0000ff\"]7 free phished accounts - AMAZING GUY![/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought 2 pins off Everylasting Death (I went first)- Completed GREAT GUY![/color] [color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought a gmauler off Rubyknight54 - Completed - Nice Smooth trade[/color]

[color=\"#ff0000\"]>Had YelYel1 train my fletching 1-70. He changed pass in the middle of it and I can not recover because it is a phished account. - FAILED (could not recover)[/color]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Gave 2m to Pota Potey for his starting range/bher/gmauler - Completed[/color][/b]

[color=\"#00ff00\"]>Bought 1 month target card from Painballer121 Death Angel07 MM'd - Success[/color][/font][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"] [/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ffff00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"][color=\"#00ff00\"][color=\"#0000ff\"][color=\"#000000\"]

>Scammed Kaousono 14.5m - I got all cash

>Scammed slingshot lvl 103+3 - I got acc - never recoved

>Sold 103+3 to ever lasting death for 2 pins - Easy 3.2m profit!

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 05:26:53 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2008, 01:30:02 AM »
JB Lee, sometimes your random pictures are funny, but that one just didn't make sense. Reazee please stop flaming this thread.

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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2008, 05:16:55 AM »
[quote name=\'Reazee\' post=\'449333\' date=\'Dec 8 2008, 04:56 PM\']ZOMG DO YOU USE ALL CAPS ON A BAD DAY?!?! OR JUST MORE FROWNY FACES!?[/quote]


keep flaming you'll reach your 3k post count.
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[font=\"Comic Sans MS\"] [color=\"#ff8c00\"][color=\"#ff8c00\"]Traded lvl 102 for lvl 69 and 92~ Trickery [ sucessful ][/color]

[/color][color=\"#ff0000\"]Traded lvl 93 with 2m for lvl 107~ Pr0 iz Klutch [ unsucessful, recovered back ][/color]
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[color=\"#ff8c00\"]Traded lvl 69 mith pure for 4 accounts ~ Mr K [ sucessful ][/color]
[color=\"#ff8c00\"]Traded lvl 93 for 1 month Pin ~ Owdat [ sucessful ][/color]
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[color=\"#000000\"]~Pr0 Iz KluTch[/color]
[color=\"#000000\"]~Owdat[/color]
[color=\"#483d8b\"]/////[/color][color=\"#ff00ff\"]^-~=~-[/color][color=\"#c0c0c0\"]I Vouche for (3)[/color][color=\"#ff00ff\"]-~=~-^[/color][color=\"#483d8b\"]\\\\\[/color]
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[color=\"#000000\"]~[color=\"#000000\"]Kaosune[/color][/color]
[color=\"#000000\"]~Owdat[/color]
I have stopped all trading  due to my pc dying on Xmas day, and losing all my files holding usernames and passwords to rs acc's :( [color=\"#808000\"]( Anyone spare acc pls? - be repayed. )[/color]



[color=\"#000000\"]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'452003\' date=\'Dec 21 2008, 01:17 PM\']yeah i doubt he'll scam so dnt be hesitant to trade him...[/quote]

[quote name=\'Trickery\' post=\'452038\' date=\'Dec 21 2008, 03:50 PM\']Vouch for Zach, he's legit.[/quote]








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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2008, 03:56:22 PM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'449398\' date=\'Dec 9 2008, 12:30 AM\']JB Lee, sometimes your random pictures are funny, but that one just didn't make sense. Reazee please stop flaming this thread.[/quote]


[quote name=\'zach k\' post=\'449412\' date=\'Dec 9 2008, 04:16 AM\']keep flaming you'll reach your 3k post count.[/quote]




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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2008, 03:58:05 PM »
you guys are scammers
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2008, 04:19:54 PM »
oh my effing god. They keep saying "defend your morals" and "protect what you stand for"

Well eff that. I'm just gonna keep quiet. Everything is a [censored]ing scam to you people. Everything. NONE of you read threads properly. Not one. One person just points and the rest follow. You're all useless. I know I'm not a scammer. As long as I know I'm not a scammer, I don't care what any of you say. For [censored]'s sakes.

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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 05:22:12 PM »
[quote name=\'Pyro Raccoon\' post=\'449474\' date=\'Dec 9 2008, 01:19 PM\']oh my effing god. They keep saying "defend your morals" and "protect what you stand for"

Well eff that. I'm just gonna keep quiet. Everything is a [censored]ing scam to you people. Everything. NONE of you read threads properly. Not one. One person just points and the rest follow. You're all useless. I know I'm not a scammer. As long as I know I'm not a scammer, I don't care what any of you say. For [censored]'s sakes.[/quote]
for the record I didn't even read the thread.
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