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« Reply #160 on: November 25, 2001, 09:25:00 AM »
Cheers for that, I couldnt workout how to get it booting for 9x, now i\'ll go and have a little play http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\':)\' />

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« Reply #161 on: November 25, 2001, 10:07:15 AM »
As far as making the others boot you will have to follow the examples given by the earlier posts specifically look for \"Lotus Nympheas\" post and Reference \"Space Between\" if you want to do a multi boot with the 9x options and how they modified the diskemu.cmd to tailor it with their choices.

As far as the capacity of my 5in1 your right .  It is too large for a CD.  The only option there is, is to use a DVD (a nice Christmas wish) or do what I did, trim the fat to only what you will need to make it fit on the CD. ;-)

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« Reply #162 on: November 25, 2001, 08:15:00 PM »
Ok that makes sense...but i still run into the same problem. I load the .img that is in the root...do the normal win98 boot disk options...and when it gets to the point where it says only three lines in the top left corner...about copying files to prepare for setup...the cd is lost. It just stops spinnning and nothing happens after that. The drive letter is getting lost or something due to when i boot up i dont have a dos/fat partition on any hdd. I have 4 hdd\'s and 9 partitions total...and all are NTFS. So when i boot off the 9x.img it thinks the cdrom is C: because it cannot recongize any drive. Ok well i have also run fdisk before this and partitioned a fat/dos partition to install win9x...when i do this i still have to type

copy win09 c:win98

and run setup off the c:...and when i do that it says something about a illegal procedure...it then cancels setup. I have also chosen to include some switch i cant remember exactly -? that ignores this error that it gives me here that should allow me to proceed..but it still cancels install.

I\'m just wondering has anybody got to install win98/me with this multibootable just like it would be if you use your orginal win98/me cd.  I mean do you choose whatever # option in diskemu to start setup of win98/me and the gui starts and everything runs smooth.??? ;P..sorry im alittle tired. I just want to know if i can just press 4 buttons or less and have the 9x/me install fly without a hitch and how the heck you got this to work.

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« Reply #163 on: November 25, 2001, 08:25:12 PM »
sic just downloaded your .bat...

                                                                 
:AUTOSETUP                                                        
cls
echo Now starting the Windows 98 Second Edition Installation Option
echo for this computer.
echo.
echo Please standby.....
path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE
OEMSETUP.EXE /K \"/IE /NF\"


what exactly does the below mean...and does %CDROM% take care of the assignment of a drive letter to the cdrom ???
path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE
OEMSETUP.EXE /K \"/IE /NF\"

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« Reply #164 on: November 25, 2001, 08:56:42 PM »
I\'m sorry honestly for another ? so quick...but...

i just wan to know what you edited in the .sys. i see that when you the option SETUP_CD is chosen off the config.sys file it loads this below
[SETUP_CD]
include=CD
what does that do???anyways in conclusion i am under the impression that line path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE    %RAMD%utilize\'s ramdisk somehow not too sure....then %CDROM% makes the setup use the cdrom drive regardless of its drive letter...am i close?? ok before i go posting another post can i just edit the following in your...actually i shouldnt have to edit the config.sys right???just replace the existing body in autoexec.bat with a new one right??anyways

auto.bat
edit 1: make sure that that this file is referenced correctly to config.sys by editing the following if you currently have a config.sys with your files...otherwise use\'s yours ;-P.
echo.                                                            
IF \"%config%\"==\"SETUP_CD\" goto AUTOSETUP                          
GOTO QUIT
edit 2: make sure the path is set to the correct folder onr your cd and make sure the setup.exe file name is the same aswell in the following lines in this..
:AUTOSETUP                                                        
cls
echo Now starting the Windows 98 Second Edition Installation Option
echo for this computer.
echo.
echo Please standby.....
path=%RAMD%:;%CDROM%:UENGLISHWIN98SE
OEMSETUP.EXE /K \"/IE /NF\"                                        
echo.                                                            
goto QUIT  

i guess one could just use your 2 files aslong as all paths/names where the same and create the .img right??o yeh is there a way i can use a different file name for config.sys than config.sys or is this just how Crum allows it to be ;-P..(Crum...Conan)

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« Reply #165 on: November 25, 2001, 11:22:24 PM »
Spaces,  In regards to your last question of your first post, yes, after going thru heck trying to get the right syntax for the boot disk to recognize the right path.. another story (even I had probs).. using the autoexec and config.sys files I had posted.  I finally was able to install from the multiboot (5in1) disk I had created from start to finish without a hitch.

The image works as you,ve mentioned all you would need to do is modify the autoexec.bat to fit your 9x choice and its setup.exe file (in the autoexec file I posted its using the oemsetup but this should also work for the setup.exe as well)

I borrowed the lines from a winme bootdisk that I think had better code and uses the ramdrive \"%RAMD%\" to store the extra files that are compressed in an \"ebd.cab\" file I thought that would be useful for debugging and such.  This would be where you\'d find the files like edit, sys, format, etc etc.

As far as the config.sys file.. the line [Setup_CD] is the menu option that you\'d select if you wanted to install the 9x OS from the CD.. Note:(This could be anything as long as it is reference in the autoexec.bat file).

The line \"include=CD\" references the menu option for CD support [CD].  This was used instead of retyping the same lines that the [CD] menu already had.  A shortcut if you will from typers cramps ;-)

What I edited was the include=CD for the [Setup_CD] menu since that wasn\'t there initially and the line in the [CD] section that didn\'t have a \"device=himem.sys\" line that was giving me grief when I tried using the ramdrive statements.
I mod\'d an original 98 bootdisk to get this to work for me.

As far as using the supplied 2 files and creating the image.. sure go ahead.. I hope that it would help anyone trying to do what I just did.. ;-)

As far as using a different filename other than config.sys.. why?  That is what helps make this bootdisk work.. Old DOS days always had a autoexec.bat and config.sys file.. Not sure how you would do it any other way.. Unless you wanted to try a customized *.dat file and I\'m not to sure if you would want to go there. ;-)

PS. 1  Also I\'ve found that I could fit all of the files for the 3 W2K versions, the directories win98 and the winme on one disk only if I used a 99min blank (870mb).. total image size for me was 757mb if anyone wanted to know. ;-)

PS  2.  If you want to make your 9x install with the auto inserted PIDKEY, all you have to do is create an MSBatch.inf file with the right format and drop it into the UENGLISHWin9x folder.  I\'ll post that in abit.

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« Reply #166 on: November 26, 2001, 12:00:24 AM »
MSBatch.inf sample.  Just substitute with the correct PIDKEY values.

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« Reply #167 on: November 26, 2001, 04:16:13 PM »
Thanks i am going to go ahead and use your\'s...already have actually ;P... You mentioned customize .dat files...now is that what some of us downloaded off of Oz\'s website. I mean that is what you start the install off of is the .dat file. Can I make one of these for all Os\'s...but most importantly Winxp. I have lossed alittle data from all Os\'s but i have manage to cram XPpro,2Kpro,2ka.ser,winME and win98se all on a 99cdr....but obviously i have not a clue on how to create/edit a .dat file to make it work like the ones that Oz posted. Are they that difficult to make???If so why because when i open up the .dat file..in notepad of course, no real hex editor, the .dat file is really really small.

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« Reply #168 on: November 26, 2001, 04:36:13 PM »
from what I have read the dat files are only needed for NT based OS\'s from dos based os\'s a img file of the bootfloppy is all what is needed

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« Reply #169 on: November 27, 2001, 05:25:17 PM »
Yeh makes sense...but how do we create a .dat file for XP???

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« Reply #170 on: November 28, 2001, 06:06:23 AM »
Not sure what steps are required to create a *.dat file for XP but Bart\'s site http://www.nu2.nu already has one posted on his site if you really want one.

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« Reply #171 on: November 28, 2001, 07:01:47 AM »
Space, the boot image of winxp is the same as for win2k. You can take any of the 3 .dat from oz\'s site and use it to boot winxp. Just make sure you edit the .dat (using a binary editor) to point to the root level dir of winxp (i havent made an xp boot cd myself, but I know that you can use the win2k .dat for xp and for nt also).

If you look at the 3 .dat from oz\'s site in a binary editor, you will see that they are all the same except for where they point to for the root level dir. This file is nothing more than a pointer to where the acutal boot files are located. For example, in asrvsect.dat, you can replace asrv with xsrv and change the root level folder asrv to xsrv and your cd will still work perfectly (again use a binary editor for this).

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« Reply #172 on: November 29, 2001, 01:52:09 AM »
Found these 2 links on microsoft\'s site which will be useful for those making xp boot cds:

   - Windows XP Home Edition boot disks--
   http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release...releaseid=33290
   - Windows XP Professional boot disks--
   http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release...releaseid=33291

My guess is that you would require the files from these boot disk in the root level dirs (equivalent to asrv, wsrv and wpro dirs in win2k boot cd), but other changes might be required if you are making a multi-cd.

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« Reply #173 on: November 29, 2001, 03:53:03 AM »
after downloading these files run it but dont make the disks, just goto your temp dir and copy the .img files, then extract the files from those files to create the needed folder as in 2k

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« Reply #174 on: November 29, 2001, 04:29:29 PM »
Has anyone actually put together a guide on how to do this? I\'ve just started following the threads on this topic, so I apologize for not knowing. I\'m asking because I want to make only make one install CD with Windows 2000 Pro & Server only with SP2. I know how to slipstream SP2 into both, but as far as putting both on 1 cd and being able to install either, I\'m not too sure about, and the threads in this discussion are quite long and at times confusing, too. A guide of some sort would come in very handy if anyone has ever put time into doing that.

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« Reply #175 on: November 30, 2001, 08:25:47 AM »
try my site click here
read all the pages within this thread
and keep on trying http://images.thetechguide.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif\' class=\'bbc_emoticon\' alt=\';)\' />

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« Reply #176 on: November 30, 2001, 01:58:40 PM »
I have started a .pdf document for a howto that I was going to publish.  Nothing original.  Mainly trying to consalidate the info from Oz, The_Flames, this thread and Bart\'s site.  So far not even halfway through yet.  I have no programming exp. so I am trying to learn the in\'s and out\'s.  Don\'t want to write about something I don\'t know yet.  My document will focus on how-to make a Win2K Sp2, Win NT 4.0 Wkst, Win98 and Win95 multiboot CD.  I will post only after I succesfully make one myself.  If your looking for all 2K versions check out The_Flames site.  My cd will auto insert the serial if possable.  So far the 2K Pro and both 9x installs will auto insert the serial but have yet to get it to work on NT 4.0 though.  Anyone know if winnt.sif will work on NT 4.0 Workstation?

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« Reply #177 on: November 30, 2001, 06:44:02 PM »
Okay, I\'m gonna keep tryin\' to follow info from this site and yours. Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #178 on: November 30, 2001, 06:47:47 PM »
Twinkie Cream, do that. Not only a PDF guide, but when you get that done, maybe include everything needed in a RAR file or something like that. I know from what I\'ve read and seen that the software to put everything together is small in size. A kit would be nice, but I\'ll take what I can get. As long as there are links, that\'s good, too.

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« Reply #179 on: November 30, 2001, 07:52:25 PM »
Actually if you just follow this thread you will understand how to make the image..everything Oz\'s site had was posted in this thread at one point in time. Anyways...has anybody got win9x to work with this as is it is on your orginal win9x cd???i got it to work...thanks ;P...but still wondering if it can be done as is..